Two Celebrity passengers test positive on first Celebrity cruise

[AZjohn]

5 minutes ago, caribill said:

Because this is a 7 day cruise and this was the middle of the cruise, it is unlikely anyone who did catch the virus from either of the two passengers would have detectable levels for a Covid-19 test to detect before the cruise ended.

Agree 100% with you @caribill, it was totally unnecessary to lock up people from that shore excursion (sorry, should say quarantined to their cabins). None of them would test positive from passengers, it would be after the cruise that they should be tested. And that is what I would be upset with.

[caribill]

29 minutes ago, Ombud said:

K but my cruises until late 2022 are US based and they have to be 98% crew / 95% pax vaccinated (100% Alaska) for at least 14 days before getting onboard.

 

 

 

CDC has changed the requirement to be 95%.

[Ombud]

24 minutes ago, caribill said:

 

CDC has changed the requirement to be 95%.

Still good enough for me if vaxed / tested 14 days ahead of time --- to be honest, if the boat is going, I'm going!! 

[caribill]

10 minutes ago, Ombud said:

Still good enough for me if vaxed / tested 14 days ahead of time --- to be honest, if the boat is going, I'm going!! 

 

And you should!

 

Have a great cruise!

[janice2348]

6 hours ago, c-boy said:

     

Keep Calm And Carry On

 

"Because the cruise is a fully vaccinated sailing, the science and procedures in place have also helped to keep us calm, and the announcement of the positive tests didn't seem to break the mostly optimistic atmosphere onboard.

 

Because of the protocols in place, most guests were able to continue their cruise as planned -- attending shows in the theater, grabbing drinks at the lounges and frequenting the casino.

 

The current mood and reaction of passengers -- combined with the line's ability to swiftly put their protocols in motion -- serve as a reminder of how far we have come since the beginning of the pandemic -- and how cruise is uniquely positioned to deal with such an eventuality"

                                                                                                                                                                                           some of you Henny Penny's should read this article. https://www.cruisecritic.com/news/6183/ 

 

 

Exactly right. Being vaccinated doesn’t mean you won’t get COVID. It means you won’t get sick and die.  Thanks for posting this.  I fully expect outbreaks that will be completely contained.  However, we are waiting until 2022 to sail so that all of this hoopla will die down. 

[downsmead]

Data from the U.K. - 

As of June 7, there have been 42 deaths in England of people who were confirmed as having the Delta variant of Covid-19 and who died within 28 days of a positive test, according to PHE.

Of these, 23 were unvaccinated, seven were more than 21 days after their first dose of vaccine and 12 were more than 14 days after their second dose.

[CalLuvsCrusingToo]

Wonder what vaccine the vaccinated had gotten?

 

[shastatroy]

Being vaccinated doesn't mean you won't get covid, it reduces your risk of getting sick. This is silly, the entire county is finally lifting its restrictions, it's time the CDC gets on board.

[CruiseMrB]

4 hours ago, beg3yrs said:

 

There could also be issues that there was a bad batch of vaccine. Also there is some evidence out there that some dietary supplements and prescription drugs (don't ask me which ones, I don't remember) diminish the efficacy of the vaccines. Could be lots of valid reasons they were both valid breakthroughs. Still wouldn't hurt to check though.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE don't even mention "bad batch of vaccine" without overwhelming proof. We've got enough troubles on the vaccine front as it is. The evidence so far is that the US two-shot vaccines have been nothing but freakin' amazing and are exceeding all expectations on efficacy.

[nocl]

4 hours ago, beg3yrs said:

 

There could also be issues that there was a bad batch of vaccine. Also there is some evidence out there that some dietary supplements and prescription drugs (don't ask me which ones, I don't remember) diminish the efficacy of the vaccines. Could be lots of valid reasons they were both valid breakthroughs. Still wouldn't hurt to check though.

There are several drugs that impact immune response and lessen  vaccine effectiveness. Drugs for RA and other auto immune disease are examples.

 

Age and many other factors could apply as well.

[PescadoAmarillo]

7 hours ago, Barry ATL said:

DH and I discussed this and our first take was a question.  As unlikely as breakthrough cases are, what are the chances that two people sharing the same cabin both have a breakthrough case at the same time?

I can’t get past this either. I’m skeptical.  

[Scotmay]

Can someone tell me what the latest is with sailing out of Florida and DeSantis ruling of not requiring proof of vaccines before embarking on a cruise. I have lost track of what is required now!

[CI66774]

21 minutes ago, Scotmay said:

Can someone tell me what the latest is with sailing out of Florida and DeSantis ruling of not requiring proof of vaccines before embarking on a cruise. I have lost track of what is required now!

Still in flux.

[CI66774]

2 hours ago, janice2348 said:

Exactly right. Being vaccinated doesn’t mean you won’t get COVID. It means you won’t get sick and die.  Thanks for posting this.  I fully expect outbreaks that will be completely contained.  However, we are waiting until 2022 to sail so that all of this hoopla will die down. 

People have gotten sick and died from COVID after being fully vaccinated.

[Thrak]

25 minutes ago, Scotmay said:

Can someone tell me what the latest is with sailing out of Florida and DeSantis ruling of not requiring proof of vaccines before embarking on a cruise. I have lost track of what is required now!

 

According to the last Webinar I watched Princess is requiring something lik 95% vaccination. Holland America stated they were requiring 100% vaccination and that children under 12 (not eligible for vaccination) would not be allowed to board. I guess I probably shouldn't comment regarding my thoughts about DeSantis but I am definitely in favor of vaccinated cruisers.

[LoriPhil]

Interesting re Holland America.  This would encourage us to book one of their cruises.

[matadams4u]

1 hour ago, CI66774 said:

People have gotten sick and died from COVID after being fully vaccinated.

This is a true statement but the supporting data tends to lag the headline data.

 

There are a number of variables.  
 

1. countries using vaccines with lower efficacy rates are sometimes seeing some issues.

2.  Demographics and co-morbidities play a role.  I hate to say it because the same argument was distorted early in the pandemic but there is some truth to looking at the underlying data because some of the headline numbers have been distorted.  For example, the numbers cited a few posts up are true and there is emerging concern in Britain on the Delta variant but it would be interesting to see the demographic variance amongst groups.  Hamblin of the Atlantic has expressed the same concern about some of the recent headlines on breakthrough cases.

3.  This continues to be an evolving disease and more variants are bound to follow.  Frankly, the data out of Britain on Delta variant has me concerned and I continue to wear a mask in crowded areas.

[matadams4u]

1 hour ago, Scotmay said:

Can someone tell me what the latest is with sailing out of Florida and DeSantis ruling of not requiring proof of vaccines before embarking on a cruise. I have lost track of what is required now!

There was a hearing today and the judge said he would issue a ruling soon and the parties also continued arbitration.  I’m not certain what to make of what was discussed during the hearing.  I suspect the judge is keeping his cards to the vest but not certain how Florida can claim jurisdiction over the CDC or federal authority regarding international maritime.

[ontheweb]

1 hour ago, matadams4u said:

There was a hearing today and the judge said he would issue a ruling soon and the parties also continued arbitration.  I’m not certain what to make of what was discussed during the hearing.  I suspect the judge is keeping his cards to the vest but not certain how Florida can claim jurisdiction over the CDC or federal authority regarding international maritime.

Not arbitration, They are continuing mediation. An arbitrator makes a decision; a mediator tries to get the parties to agree to a compromise decision.

[ALWAYS CRUZIN]

6 hours ago, Ombud said:

K but my cruises until late 2022 are US based and they have to be 98% crew / 95% pax vaccinated (100% Alaska) for at least 14 days before getting onboard. So whereas that is indeed unfortunate for other areas outside USA it does not affect Princess Cruises

 

 

I post on other sites about how the US stepped up for us and was late to the scene donated vaccines to the rest of the world which we have done. And we are sending out another countries (80m to India, 500m worldwide). We just handled us 1st

 

 

 

Late 2022? By then it will all be different.

[Luckiestmanonearth]

6 hours ago, caribill said:

 

CDC has changed the requirement to be 95%.

Whats the math and logic of 95% ?

[Bgwest]

23 hours ago, KruzPrincess said:

Dang. It will be interesting when they sail from FL/TX without a vaccination requirement. 

If they choose to implement a vax requirement in Texas, they will certainly be able to do so. 

[Bgwest]

11 hours ago, chef Brian said:

Hey here's a thought, although you have been Vaccinated...you still can get Covid!!!!  the day you get vaccinated you are at full 94% but say you were vaccinated in January you now are not 94% protected anymore, they are saying the vaccine might last 6-8 mos without a booster. so how much protection do you have if you didn't get the booster?? 5 months later... did they fly on a plane? did the stay in a hotel? did the eat in a restaurant? it did say they went on a excursion, were all the people they been around on all these places vaccinated? the answer is NO! so, believe it or not Vaccinated people can get covid, and some do. far as checking if the Vaccine card are real? there is No National Database only state records, my card was handwritten by a nurse that was probably a 100, and even hard to read, I asked if I needed another card they told me i would be fine. finally the people who tested positive didn't show any signs of illness, so could of been fake positive.  bottom line if you are scared and don't want to chance of someone, even a vaccinated person testing positive stay home!!

the cruiseline did all they could tested 72 hours ahead, asked for everyone to be vaccinated and tested again near the end of the cruise. that is all the can do. the chance of someone using a fake covid card go up the more they force people to have one to travel, i am fully vaccinated and that was my choice and the last time i checked this is America and people are free to make their own choice to get vaccine or not. it's not up to me or you to tell them how to live there life. if the cruise lines choose to only allow vaccinated people on board then the non vaccinated will have to choose to vacation elsewhere.

 

Is it all so important so as to be all in bold?

[ebeluga]

So Celebrity will provide a private flight home for the two positive passengers once the ship disembarks on Saturday.  I wonder if cruise lines would take notice the cost associated with the increased probability of higher number of positive passengers on a vaccination-not-required cruise.

 

This does not bode well for the bottom line.

Edited June 12, 2021 by ebeluga

[Lucky TGO]

6 minutes ago, ebeluga said:

So Celebrity will provide a private flight home for the two positive passengers once the ship disembarks on Saturday.  I wonder if cruise lines would take notice the cost associated with the increased probability of higher number of positive passengers on a vaccination-not-required cruise.

 

This does not bode well for the bottom line.

It’s better than being shut down for another year. How much 💵💵💵💵💵💵 do you think that cost them?? 
Tony