Your Favorite Beer That's Available On A Royal Ship?

[2chiefs]

11 hours ago, Ret MP said:

Ya, I forgot about the EU debacle.  However, I do keep in contact with a German friend I developed over there.  She doesn't complain about anything going on with their local beer there.  This is in a little village called Vilseck.  We actually had beer delivered to our quarters/apartment like Milk used to be delivered here in the U.S.  Put out the empties at night, in the morning, all replace with filled bottles, but you didn't have to skim of the top of the contents.  Loved it.

I had similar experience with wine in Sardinia in the late 70's. I lived there in an apartment in La Maddalena and we had local wine by the case (12 in a case) in returnable bottles. Cost 35 cents a bottle!! Less than bottled water at the time. (Yes, I drank it - I was on a tight budget).

 

Not delivered though. I had to walk a block to pick it up.

Edited July 27, 2022 by 2chiefs

[dwp10mm]

13 hours ago, baelor said:

Where?  That would get you laughed out of business in craft-heavy cities like Seattle or Portland.  I have literally never even seen them on draft here.

Perhaps I should have said "many" instead of "any".  Just a quick look at some online menus I found TGIFridays still listing Sam Adams Boston Lager, Sierra Nevada Pale Ale and New Belgium Fat Tire under their Craft/Import offering.  Believe me, I agree with that being laughable.  

[KayRaeRae]

23 hours ago, topnole said:

  I could set up 6 beers (3

from big brewers like AB InBev and 3 from craft brewers) and have all of blind taste test them.  None of you would know craft from major brewer and the success rate of picking would be no better than random guessing.  Many of you would claim you could, but you would be wrong.  I’ve done this before.  The most confident people I know could get them right.  

While it certainly depends upon which beers you select, I very likely could.  But I have a professionally trained palate to do so.  I’ve done loads of blind and double-blind tastings.  

[HBE4]

I don't think there is any legal or agreed upon definition of what a "craft beer" is. I guess it's open to interpretation, like porn, "Can't define it but I I know it when I see it".

 

For what it's worth, the Beer Association  somewhat broad definition of craft beer is:

 

* small - less than 6 million barrels of beer annually.

* independent - Less than 25 percent of the craft brewery is owned or controlled (or equivalent economic interest) by a beverage alcohol industry member that is not itself a craft brewer.

* has a Independent Certified Seal of approval  from the Beer Association.

 

https://www.craftbeer.com/breweries/what-is-a-craft-brewery 

 

Should be noted that the Beer Association is an governing body and lobbying organization of small interdependent brewers and not everyone agrees with their definition.  It you feel like taking a deep dive:

 

https://beerconnoisseur.com/articles/what-craft-beer 

 

 

[John&LaLa]

Royal needs to offer Natty Light 😁

[Big_G]

12 hours ago, John&LaLa said:

 

90% of the venues in the country most likely. 

 

Craft is a niche, a tiny, tiny, niche.

 

Not meaning to be snarky, but ABInBev spills more beer than most microbreweries produce

 

Is Red Hook still a micro?

 

Craft is probably closer to 25 percent of the market. Red Hook Longhammer is my usual go to on most Royal ships. Not sure if they're still considered micro and I'm not a Stone fan. I'll hit a Coors Light after yard work but my beer fridge is usually stocked with 95 percent microbrewery beers. It's an expensive habit I'm not willing to give up. Royal's beer selection overall is not great.

[topnole]

1 hour ago, KayRaeRae said:

While it certainly depends upon which beers you select, I very likely could.  But I have a professionally trained palate to do so.  I’ve done loads of blind and double-blind tastings.  

If I picked a mass produced product of the exact same category and craft you would never know the difference beyond random guessing.  A lot of research has been done in the beer industry.  Obviously anyone who drinks beer could know the difference between a lager and an IPA, but that is what I’m talking about. Lots of research has been done on the beer industry and product tasting.  Success in the industry has little to do with taste and everything thing to do with marketing.  Lagunitas understood this well.   

[John&LaLa]

5 hours ago, Big_G said:

 

Craft is probably closer to 25 percent of the market. Red Hook Longhammer is my usual go to on most Royal ships. Not sure if they're still considered micro and I'm not a Stone fan. I'll hit a Coors Light after yard work but my beer fridge is usually stocked with 95 percent microbrewery beers. It's an expensive habit I'm not willing to give up. Royal's beer selection overall is not great.

 

Latest data says 13%. That's light years from 25%

[John&LaLa]

4 hours ago, topnole said:

If I picked a mass produced product of the exact same category and craft you would never know the difference beyond random guessing.  A lot of research has been done in the beer industry.  Obviously anyone who drinks beer could know the difference between a lager and an IPA, but that is what I’m talking about. Lots of research has been done on the beer industry and product tasting.  Success in the industry has little to do with taste and everything thing to do with marketing.  Lagunitas understood this well.   

 

But, Langunitas thought they could redo Newcastle. Their FB page is a giant ***** fest.

[AspiringCindy]

On 7/25/2022 at 8:35 AM, footzz said:

No Dow for sure! I have occasionally seen Molson, Labatts and Moosehead in the Pub style bars on RCL.

That's good to know! Those are my absolute favorite beers!

When all else fails...Stella will do.

[KayRaeRae]

8 hours ago, topnole said:

If I picked a mass produced product of the exact same category and craft you would never know the difference beyond random guessing.  A lot of research has been done in the beer industry.  Obviously anyone who drinks beer could know the difference between a lager and an IPA, but that is what I’m talking about. Lots of research has been done on the beer industry and product tasting.  Success in the industry has little to do with taste and everything thing to do with marketing.  Lagunitas understood this well.   

I’ll still disagree.  If you gave me a macro IIPA and a quality micro, I’d be able to tell in a second.  It’s even more pronounced in stouts. 

[KayRaeRae]

9 hours ago, Big_G said:

 

Craft is probably closer to 25 percent of the market. Red Hook Longhammer is my usual go to on most Royal ships. Not sure if they're still considered micro and I'm not a Stone fan. I'll hit a Coors Light after yard work but my beer fridge is usually stocked with 95 percent microbrewery beers. It's an expensive habit I'm not willing to give up. Royal's beer selection overall is not great.

Somebody lives down the road from me.  🍻 

[skyking]

On 7/24/2022 at 9:47 AM, John&LaLa said:

 

Tried that at Universal Studios at the Harry Potter train station. Not a fan @grapau27

I was drinking it in England so maybe that is why I loved it:) 

 

I am actually drinking one now!

[skyking]

On 7/26/2022 at 4:45 PM, topnole said:

Where were you out of when they had London Pride?   Was that South Hampton?

They had London Pride on the June 17th sailing out of Southampton ...I counted 7 or 8 British beers, all were pretty good.  Hen was my fav thought!

[neverbeenhere]

Differentiating between particular beers and success in the brewing industry separate things. 

[topnole]

39 minutes ago, KayRaeRae said:

I’ll still disagree.  If you gave me a macro IIPA and a quality micro, I’d be able to tell in a second.  It’s even more pronounced in stouts. 

Says everyone that loses the bet.  If I line up 3 crafts and 3 large brewer beers of a similar type you would fail.  Anyone who doesn’t is a beneficiary of random luck.  I’ve done this with people that brew their own beer, those who consider themselves above all others in beer knowledge, etc., etc.    This is why marketing always wins in beer.  
 

Now it can be hard to find somewhat comparable beers.  But many of the craft brewers make less off the wall stuff such as blonde ales, typical wheat beers, etc. which can easily be compared to more mass market brewers.  

 

Look, I appreciate a nice beer made with high quality ingredients and brewing process that isn’t rushed just to keep costs down.  I really enjoy many of the American craft beers.  But the human palate is easily persuaded.  After one or two sips of one beer you will not distinguish well any future sips from other similar beers.  Its just that simple.  There is a reason everyone says the best pint of Guinness you’ll ever have is a St. James Gate.  I felt that too.  Your mind swears it is the best ever due to the context, but it isn’t different than the pub down the road.  

[KayRaeRae]

35 minutes ago, topnole said:

Says everyone that loses the bet.  If I line up 3 crafts and 3 large brewer beers of a similar type you would fail.  Anyone who doesn’t is a beneficiary of random luck.  I’ve done this with people that brew their own beer, those who consider themselves above all others in beer knowledge, etc., etc.    This is why marketing always wins in beer.  
 

Now it can be hard to find somewhat comparable beers.  But many of the craft brewers make less off the wall stuff such as blonde ales, typical wheat beers, etc. which can easily be compared to more mass market brewers.  

 

Look, I appreciate a nice beer made with high quality ingredients and brewing process that isn’t rushed just to keep costs down.  I really enjoy many of the American craft beers.  But the human palate is easily persuaded.  After one or two sips of one beer you will not distinguish well any future sips from other similar beers.  Its just that simple.  There is a reason everyone says the best pint of Guinness you’ll ever have is a St. James Gate.  I felt that too.  Your mind swears it is the best ever due to the context, but it isn’t different than the pub down the road.  

But have you done it to a certified sommelier?  My palate is pretty spot-on.  But keep insisting strangers can’t do things because people you know can’t.  🤷🏻‍♀️ 

[topnole]

41 minutes ago, KayRaeRae said:

But have you done it to a certified sommelier?  My palate is pretty spot-on.  But keep insisting strangers can’t do things because people you know can’t.  🤷🏻‍♀️ 

Well.  Have a friend try it on you sometime.   Can’t be some unique spice stout our whatever.  Try it on stuff that is comparable such traditional lager to traditional lager or wheat beer to wheat beer etc.  

[Ret MP]

I can, for sure, tell the difference, within a second, between an IPA and a Ribeye.  I betchya!

[topnole]

14 minutes ago, Ret MP said:

I can, for sure, tell the difference, within a second, between an IPA and a Ribeye.  I betchya!

This I could do as well.  I can even tell the difference between a ribeye and a fillet.  I’m not even a butcher by the way.  

[HBE4]

I  think in a blind taste test, I can tell the difference between eating Dominoes pizza and a cardboard box.

 

Actually, no, I probably cant.

[Ret MP]

1 minute ago, HBE4 said:

I  think in a blind taste test, I can tell the difference between eating Dominoes pizza and a cardboard box.

 

Actually, no, I probably cant.

While I understand the comparison with Dominoes, I put my money on your ability to do so.  Just as long as nobody puts marinara sauce on the cardboard.  That is asking for extra-human abilities.

[ARandomTraveler]

16 hours ago, dwp10mm said:

Perhaps I should have said "many" instead of "any".  Just a quick look at some online menus I found TGIFridays still listing Sam Adams Boston Lager, Sierra Nevada Pale Ale and New Belgium Fat Tire under their Craft/Import offering.  Believe me, I agree with that being laughable.  

No real craft beer enthusiast is eating at a TGIFridays (I joke, I joke...kinda) 😂

[ARandomTraveler]

16 hours ago, HBE4 said:

I don't think there is any legal or agreed upon definition of what a "craft beer" is. I guess it's open to interpretation, like porn, "Can't define it but I I know it when I see it".

 

For what it's worth, the Beer Association  somewhat broad definition of craft beer is:

 

* small - less than 6 million barrels of beer annually.

* independent - Less than 25 percent of the craft brewery is owned or controlled (or equivalent economic interest) by a beverage alcohol industry member that is not itself a craft brewer.

* has a Independent Certified Seal of approval  from the Beer Association.

 

https://www.craftbeer.com/breweries/what-is-a-craft-brewery 

 

Should be noted that the Beer Association is an governing body and lobbying organization of small interdependent brewers and not everyone agrees with their definition.  It you feel like taking a deep dive:

 

https://beerconnoisseur.com/articles/what-craft-beer 

 

 

That association is headquartered right up the street from my house. Might be why I'm such a beer snob  🤔

[PhillyFan33579]

Technically it is a cider, but Strongbow is my favorite drink. Love that most RCI ships have it on draft in several bars.