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1 minute ago, NMTraveller said:

I have heard all of the complaints of the open/close window room.  But this video makes it clear.  It you close the doors so that you can keep the AC on you are in a box!  How unappealing can you get?  You are stuck in a small tin box?  So this is supposed to be some upscale cruise room?  LOL

Read the reviews on the Edge sticky and please don’t comment before trying an IV.

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33 minutes ago, NMTraveller said:

I have heard all of the complaints of the open/close window room.  But this video makes it clear.  If you close the doors so that you can keep the AC on you are in a box!  How unappealing can you get?  You are stuck in a small tin box?  So this is supposed to be some upscale cruise room?  LOL  I feel that the IVs are overhyped and seriously underperform.  Definitely not even close to a traditional balcony.

Closing the doors doesn't keep the A/C on.

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31 minutes ago, Oville said:

Read the reviews on the Edge sticky and please don’t comment before trying an IV.

No one poster should tell others under what conditions they can or cannot comment on Cruise Critic. Celebrity's touting IVs as any form of a balcony cabin is indeed somewhere between stretching the truth and deceitful. Inability to air condition the cabin while utilizing the balcony feature as well as the Captain's ability to cut off ability to open the window at any time make the whole concept a deal breaker for me. (And yes, I have dealt with an IV cabin for one 9 night cruise on the Edge. Never again!!)

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2 minutes ago, edgee said:

No one poster should tell others under what conditions they can or cannot comment on Cruise Critic. Celebrity's touting IVs as any form of a balcony cabin is indeed somewhere between stretching the truth and deceitful. Inability to air condition the cabin while utilizing the balcony feature as well as the Captain's ability to cut off ability to open the window at any time make the whole concept a deal breaker for me. (And yes, I have dealt with an IV cabin for one 9 night cruise on the Edge. Never again!!)

Sorry you didn’t like the IV cabin, not sure about your anger.  I just suggested reading the reviews.

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11 minutes ago, Oville said:

Nope,  we don’t have any Celebrity cruises booked in the near future and don’t plan on anymore for a while..  Your comment is a bit mean.

The comment you quoted was a question to another CC member.

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14 hours ago, Beamafar said:

I’m putting my hand out to be slapped, here, but - would it have anything to do with fuel-saving measures, in that the windows would be closed for a lot of the time, whereas open balconies would cause more of a drag?  🤔

Yes it is for fuel savings.  They will tell you this when you take the bridge tour.  This is definitely about making more $$.

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9 hours ago, Bobbiegentry said:

Could it be that there are new people here who aren't "all wise" about everything?

Hey... that's me! First time Celebrity cruiser and will be on the Apex this Thanksgiving.

 I'm Platinum on Carnival and taken 4 RCCL so I'm experienced. I have got stuck on Carnival the past 10 years because my cruises are comped. Even though the Carnival demographic is not my scene on land... it's hard to justify spending a fare on another cruise line when Carnival provides a free suite, comped flights,  drinks everywhere for 2, and so on... My idea of a cruise is laying out all day and gambling all night... and I smoke when I gamble/drink and Carnival allows it.

 

However, my friends are astonished I sail Carnival as it's low brow. Not my scene. I have made it work.... the suites give me privacy and space. So venturing out to another line to start from scratch at their casino was not my idea of a good time.  Then I was introduced to URCOMPED... and that has changed everything.  I have booked 3 comp cruises on Virgin Comp Suite, Royal Comp JR Suite and this Celebrity... a Comp Infinite Veranda. I was told Celebrity does not reciprocate my free suite offers with a suite on initial sailing.  The Infinite veranda had a nice ring to it, and the Apex was new. Sounded cool and I'd survive not being in a suite. I didn't do any research,  I just booked not knowing what an Infinite veranda was as my casino host said balcony.. 

 

I'm gonna go in with sn open mind but fear I'll hate it. The videos don't get me excited.  At least Celebrity did spring for all inclusive perks as part of Comp. I'll survive  but will miss my morning coffee on a proper balcony.  I'll just have to spend what the casino anticipates and Celebrity will be offering me a Comp suite on next sailing... if I find I like Cx

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13 hours ago, Spif Barwunkel said:

We do not sit on any balcony on any ship when the sun is shining directly into the cabin, thus we do not have this concern. Regular Veranda cabin or Infinite Veranda cabin, with AC on and direct sunlight, will still lose cooling integrity unless you close the curtain or drop the dark screen. Just like you leave the balcony doors closed when on a regular veranda, leave the window up if you want the AC to stay on in an IV. Such an insignificant factor when determining what kind of cabin to purchase.

 

 

You missed the point, which was to challenge your repeated assertion that the room remains a comfortable temperature with the window open and the bifold doors closed. In climates where the outside climate is way over 30 degrees C and high humidity (as it so often is) in the med this is not true.  I'm ambivalent about the IV but there will be many who don't find these issues as insignificant as you do. You do however point out the screamingly obvious about closing the window and curtains to keep the room cool. BUT, when you close the curtains in a conventional cabin, what do you still have that you don't have in an IV, thats right, you still have a large balcony separate from the room which some people may enjoy and find significant. In an IV its not even an ocean view it's an inside cabin and can be for much of the afternoon/evening.

 

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10 hours ago, Ipeeinthepools said:

 

A distinction without a difference.  It's great that some people may prefer an IV balcony but to replace the most common type of cabin without a complete understanding of customer preferences was just dumb.  Just call the IV balcony what it really is, an ocean view cabin.

This is just ironic though, people who don't like IVs calling out those that do for 'incorrectly' referring to them as balconies, but then referring to them as ocean view cabins.

 

Given that the defining feature of an ocean view is a window... that cannot be opened, I would say IVs lean more towards to balcony side of things than the ocean view one.

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On 8/1/2022 at 11:44 PM, julia said:

Hmmmm..  just wondering who's winning that "beaten to death" race...

A. Dress code horse?

B. Drink package horse?

C. Covid mask/test horse?

D. Infinite balcony horse?

E. Can I make a 9:45 flight horse?

 

It's close folks, really close.  🤣😯


But, do you know if the Infinity has been refurbished? 

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“Hmmmm..  just wondering who's winning that "beaten to death" race...

A. Dress code horse?

B. Drink package horse?

C. Covid mask/test horse?

D. Infinite balcony horse?

E. Can I make a 9:45 flight horse?”

 

And don’t forget the FeverTree horse!

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13 hours ago, Ipeeinthepools said:

 

A distinction without a difference.  It's great that some people may prefer an IV balcony but to replace the most common type of cabin without a complete understanding of customer preferences was just dumb.  Just call the IV balcony what it really is, an ocean view cabin.

Ok no problem let's call it that.  But you would still not sail this type of cabin on MSC or Celebrity regardless of the name it is called, right?  Some people do very much enjoy it and others do not like it.  At this point it is much too late to change E-Class ship design.  So those not liking the IV concept just need to pick a different ship with traditional balconies.  I agree that Celebrity could be more upfront about just what the IV is as some Celebrity newbies might get a surprise if they signed up for a real balcony.  But most people do their research (even newbies) before a cruise purchase.  And most can change their mind until final payment too.

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32 minutes ago, asnaleah said:

 

“Hmmmm..  just wondering who's winning that "beaten to death" race...

A. Dress code horse?

B. Drink package horse?

C. Covid mask/test horse?

D. Infinite balcony horse?

E. Can I make a 9:45 flight horse?”

 

And don’t forget the FeverTree horse!

People who go to the horse track every day shouldn’t be surprised when there are horse races to see. 

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3 minutes ago, TeeRick said:

At this point it is much too late to change E-Class ship design.  So those not liking the IV concept just need to pick a different ship with traditional balconies.

And that's the real unfortunate part right there. If I want an AQ balcony cabin or a mid-ship balcony cabin due to motion sickness or whatever the reason, I can't sail E-class. Then people here on CC say "you can sail S or M class for that. Isn't it nice to have choices." That's not a choice, that's a limitation.

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