Tipping while ordering on the app??

[ChemistBabe]

When we sailed Disney in the past and ordered room service, I had a pile of bills handy to tip.

 

How does it work if we are out and about, say on the pool deck?

 

My kids will have a drink package, so their tips are included, correct?

What if they order food?  (They won't have the ability to charge to their medallion.)

 

Thanks!

(Not interested in hearing from people who claim that stiffing the staff is an okay choice.  I'm just trying to understand how to tip properly.)

[cr8tiv1]

You can continue to tip by cash as you did on your other cruise line.  I know, a little inconvenient if not in your stateroom.  Yes, beverage package includes tips; so does room service.  But I always have bills in hand…..in case I stop off at the casino….haha.

[memoak]

If you have a package your tips are already paid for. If you go ala carte and order a drink you are billed an 18% tip so that would take care of it. We rarely order food, we know how to find the dining rooms, buffet and outside grill

[skynight]

If you wish you can tip. The 18% beverage charge is included with any beverage package including your children's drink package. Food service and room service is included with the crew appreciation which is paid for with the plus or premier fares or is charged daily to each person's (including youth) on board account. If you or your children are out and about I wouldn't concern myself with any additional tipping. 

Personally I do not carry around cash on board, and don't tip cash while out and about. I do normally tip for room service. 

[wowzz]

2 hours ago, skynight said:

Personally I do not carry around cash on board, and don't tip cash while out and about. I do normally tip for room service. 

Excellent comment.

I'm not going to carry around cash for the sake of it. 

[Rick&Jeannie]

DW usually carries a small bundle of ones (maybe twenty...) to use for tips if we order on the app and they have to chase us down to deliver.  That's the only time we might give extra.  It's really interesting to see the expressions on waiters/waitresses' faces as they are pulling their hair out trying to find someone...especially on a crowded pool desk.  I sure would not want to have to pull that duty!

[cruzsnooze]

On 1/2/2023 at 10:12 AM, ChemistBabe said:

When we sailed Disney in the past and ordered room service, I had a pile of bills handy to tip.

 

How does it work if we are out and about, say on the pool deck?

 

My kids will have a drink package, so their tips are included, correct?

What if they order food?  (They won't have the ability to charge to their medallion.)

 

Thanks!

(Not interested in hearing from people who claim that stiffing the staff is an okay choice.  I'm just trying to understand how to tip properly.)

The auto tip on your daily account is all that is required to tip properly. It eliminates the need to have a pile of bills handy or carry around the ship. 

[wowzz]

1 minute ago, cr8tiv1 said:

For new Princess passengers, please do not reduce your daily crew appreciation (gratuity).  The crew works so very hard to make our journey and adventure me,oracle.  

Whilst I never reduce autotips,  I do feel that it is wrong that the tips are shared, by some unknown formula,  throughout the fleet. I would prefer it, if my tips go just to the staff on my particular ship.

The end result is probably the same for the crew members, but it seems wrong that only a fifteenth of my autotips will go to "my" ship.

[sloopsailor]

46 minutes ago, wowzz said:

Whilst I never reduce autotips,  I do feel that it is wrong that the tips are shared, by some unknown formula,  throughout the fleet. I would prefer it, if my tips go just to the staff on my particular ship.

The end result is probably the same for the crew members, but it seems wrong that only a fifteenth of my autotips will go to "my" ship.

 

But that is countered by a fifteenth of the tips from all passengers on all ships will go to "your" ship, hopefully making the end results similar as if all tips were kept within each individual ship. 

Edited January 4, 2023 by sloopsailor

[san diego sue]

I do extra tip room service . Not necessary I know but I appreciate the delivery.I bring lots of $1's with us. Just give $2.00 for our breakfast .

[cr8tiv1]

1 hour ago, wowzz said:

Whilst I never reduce autotips,  I do feel that it is wrong that the tips are shared, by some unknown formula,  throughout the fleet. I would prefer it, if my tips go just to the staff on my particular ship.

The end result is probably the same for the crew members, but it seems wrong that only a fifteenth of my autotips will go to "my" ship.

You are not alone with this thought.  I also agree.

[Ombud]

OMG I must shock a lot of you!! I only tip my MDR waiter & asst waiter extra at the end (mind you gratuities are automatically added to everything + $16 a day). 

[ChemistBabe]

I'm glad to hear that my regular gratuity takes care drinks/food on the go!

 

(If I have tip money available, I am happy to tip more.  I generally don't carry cash and my kid definitely doesn't!)

 

Personally, I hate the tipping system and wish it were abolished in favor of higher wages.  (Especially since the tipping system is rooted in racism.). However, I certainly want to fairly compensate the crew who work hard to take care of us.

[cruzsnooze]

2 hours ago, cr8tiv1 said:

I agree with your statement 100%.  But you profess to always lower your automatic gratuity.  
 

Anything above is at the sole discretion of the giver; never expected/required, but ALWAYS appreciated by the receiver.  
 

For new Princess passengers, please do not reduce your daily crew appreciation (gratuity).  The crew works so very hard to make our journey and adventure me,oracle.  

He didn't ask what others  do about tipping so I answered his question. I believe the tipping is out of hand and the auto amounts for a suite are ridiculous with the philosophy "you can afford it" not what's a fair and reasonable amount.   Yes I adjust my auto gratuity down to a fair amount. 

[cruzsnooze]

1 hour ago, sloopsailor said:

 

But that is countered by a fifteenth of the tips from all passengers on all ships will go to "your" ship, hopefully making the end results similar as if all tips were kept within each individual ship. 

The end result is not similar because several countries such as Oz and New Zealand are not tipping cultures so they expect Americans to compensate. Everyone does as they see fit and it should be left at that. It's not our business what crew gets. If they are unhappy why would they spend years in their positions?

Edited January 4, 2023 by cruzsnooze

[DallasGuy75219]

12 minutes ago, cruzsnooze said:

If they are unhappy why would they spend years in their positions?

Because most passengers don't stiff them on tips, at least on a slightly more upscale line like Princess.

[sloopsailor]

1 hour ago, DallasGuy75219 said:

Because most passengers don't stiff them on tips, at least on a slightly more upscale line like Princess.

 

Thank heaven most of us are generous instead of cheap. I am grateful I live in the US and not in one of those cheapskate countries that don't think twice about stiffing those very people who work hard to make their cruises noteworthy. I'd rather be a pleasant person instead of the likes of someone here who has arrogantly decided, in their favor of course, to tip what they deem to be a "fair amount" instead of the cruise line's recommended amount - which is the actual "fair amount". 

[sloopsailor]

2 hours ago, cruzsnooze said:

The end result is not similar because several countries such as Oz and New Zealand are not tipping cultures so they expect Americans to compensate. Everyone does as they see fit and it should be left at that. It's not our business what crew gets. If they are unhappy why would they spend years in their positions?

 

Yep, too many people from your countries don't understand that being a respectful traveler is to not impose your cultural norms on the local customs of the places you are visiting. Makes you people look like unpleasant tourists. 

[wowzz]

6 hours ago, sloopsailor said:

 

But that is countered by a fifteenth of the tips from all passengers on all ships will go to "your" ship, hopefully making the end results similar as if all tips were kept within each individual ship. 

I agree, my concern is totally irrational! 

[DallasGuy75219]

1 hour ago, wowzz said:

Being on a Princess cruise line is totally different  to being on a land vacation in the US, and unlike many US food service workers, the crew do not rely on tips to survive.

Tell me you don't understand the foreign-flagged ship business model without telling me you don't understand the foreign-flagged ship business model.

 

On the mass market lines the crew *do* actually rely on and make most of their income on tips.  The foreign-flagged ship business model allows the cruiseline to pay peanuts for wages and shift the burden of most of their labor cost to cruisers via the expectation that they pay 'standard' gratuities.  

 

Like it or not, that's how cruising works in the majority of countries.  If paying standard gratuities for adequate service is a hardship for someone or they object to to concept of tipping in general or are just plain cheap and feel standard gratuities are excessive for the service provided, they just need to find another kind of vacation rather than screwing over the crew, for whom standard gratuities represent the majority of the wages they rely on.

[wowzz]

1 hour ago, DallasGuy75219 said:

On the mass market lines the crew *do* actually rely on and make most of their income on tips.

That is just incorrect. The vast majority of the customer facing crew do not get tipped. Those waiters working in the buffet for example. The average waiter will never earn enough money from a few tips here and there to provide him with a living wage.

Plus if course,  if what you say is true,  when a ship has a large percentage of European passengers on board,  during the summer season in the Med for example, the crew, according to your theory, would be working for nothing,  given European attitudes to tipping.

P&O UK and Aus have done away with autotips, and removed the tipping culture prevalent on other lines, so all this flag of convenience nonsense is irrelevant.

 

[DallasGuy75219]

14 minutes ago, wowzz said:

That is just incorrect. The vast majority of the customer facing crew do not get tipped. Those waiters working in the buffet for example. The average waiter will never earn enough money from a few tips here and there to provide him with a living wage.

Plus if course,  if what you say is true,  when a ship has a large percentage of European passengers on board,  during the summer season in the Med for example, the crew, according to your theory, would be working for nothing,  given European attitudes to tipping.

P&O UK and Aus have done away with autotips, and removed the tipping culture prevalent on other lines, so all this flag of convenience nonsense is irrelevant.

 

Not even worth my time responding to.  Believe what you want to justify reducing or pulling your autotips.

[wowzz]

7 minutes ago, DallasGuy75219 said:

Not even worth my time responding to.  Believe what you want to justify reducing or pulling your autotips.

I have never pulled my autotips, which you would have known if you read and understood my previous posts,  and I tip extra where appropriate.  

[voljeep]

we don't tip housekeeping in hotels for single night stays - and we don't request anything extra, maybe towels.

we don't tip in the mdr - again nothing extra, unless a baked potato with extra butter is a special request.

I tipped $33 last night on a $137 bill for an hour and a half dinner.

we tip room service a couple of bucks

we tip at Vines - we spend a lot of time there - sometimes too much maybe

NEVER removed autotips - 

we tipped $10 for a $60 order of firewood delivered to our house.

 

we have a 'special' bag for our room steward upon arrival - call it what you want - and a special envelope sometimes at the end. we have also handed out small bags with candies, etc to people  on the ship, just because... she enjoys putting them together and handing them out, that's what is important.  any gifts/bags are in addition to auto tips and other.

[Thrak]

3 hours ago, sloopsailor said:

BTW: I would support an industry move to including the gratuities in the base fare.

 

I leave the auto gratuities on. In that way I do consider it to be included in the base fare when I book a cruise. If the cruise line decides to include the gratuity in the base fare I would be willing to bet that it would be a higher amount than is currently charged for the auto gratuity.