Rare c-boy Posted August 3, 2019 #801 Share Posted August 3, 2019 or they've experienced some misfortune (twice) and have decided that was all they could handle and will dine alone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zitsky Posted August 3, 2019 #802 Share Posted August 3, 2019 1 minute ago, c-boy said: or they've experienced some misfortune (twice) and have decided that was all they could handle and will dine alone. Misfortune is a strange choice of words when discussing dining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare mom says Posted August 3, 2019 #803 Share Posted August 3, 2019 1 hour ago, zitsky said: Misfortune is a strange choice of words when discussing dining. I don't think it's a strange choice of words at all. Merriam Webster says: Definition of misfortune 1a: an event or conjunction of events that causes an unfortunate or distressing result : bad luck - by misfortune he fell into bad company -had the misfortune to break his leg b: an unhappy situation -always ready to help people in misfortune 2: a distressing or unfortunate incident or event -misfortunes never come singly 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zitsky Posted August 3, 2019 #804 Share Posted August 3, 2019 If someone uses the word misfortune because they had dinner with someone they don't like, I would say they are over sensitive. Get some nerve, stand up, and walk away from the table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarrenM Posted August 3, 2019 #805 Share Posted August 3, 2019 So let me get this right. If on our next cruise we ask to be sat with others, we could end up with a child on our table? And that's without even seeing the menu? Seriously a child? Shudders I think I will stick to a table for 2. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ontheweb Posted August 3, 2019 #806 Share Posted August 3, 2019 40 minutes ago, DarrenM said: So let me get this right. If on our next cruise we ask to be sat with others, we could end up with a child on our table? And that's without even seeing the menu? Seriously a child? Shudders I think I will stick to a table for 2. Were you ever a child? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ducklite Posted August 3, 2019 #807 Share Posted August 3, 2019 19 minutes ago, ontheweb said: Were you ever a child? It doesn't mean a person would want to sit with one while on vacation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ontheweb Posted August 3, 2019 #808 Share Posted August 3, 2019 7 minutes ago, ducklite said: It doesn't mean a person would want to sit with one while on vacation. You do realize I hope that there are well behaved children. And almost all of the posts about tablemates that people objected to have been about adults. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LandlockedCruiser01 Posted August 3, 2019 #809 Share Posted August 3, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, DarrenM said: So let me get this right. If on our next cruise we ask to be sat with others, we could end up with a child on our table? And that's without even seeing the menu? Seriously a child? Shudders I think I will stick to a table for 2. You can be politically correct about it, you know. Just say something like: "I don't feel right intruding on a family meal." A socially attuned host(ess) will know what it's code for, and will most likely seat you with other adults. Edited August 3, 2019 by LandlockedCruiser01 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarrenM Posted August 3, 2019 #810 Share Posted August 3, 2019 So it wouldnt be prudent to do a Peter Griffin impersonation and shout oh my God kids. To be honest I dont mind getting there to find children on the menu. Couldn't eat a whole one though 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarrenM Posted August 3, 2019 #811 Share Posted August 3, 2019 1 hour ago, ontheweb said: Were you ever a child? Of course. And I am a very good case for adults not wanting to be near kids on holiday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarrenM Posted August 3, 2019 #812 Share Posted August 3, 2019 I like to have a bit of craic with folk on holiday. Having to temper that craic to suit children being present isn't on my agenda. Some of my anecdotes are not for kids. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ducklite Posted August 3, 2019 #813 Share Posted August 3, 2019 54 minutes ago, ontheweb said: You do realize I hope that there are well behaved children. And almost all of the posts about tablemates that people objected to have been about adults. I don't care how well behaved they are, I don't want to sit with children while I'm on vacation. If I did, I'd bring my very well behaved nieces and nephews along with me. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ontheweb Posted August 4, 2019 #814 Share Posted August 4, 2019 13 hours ago, ducklite said: I don't care how well behaved they are, I don't want to sit with children while I'm on vacation. If I did, I'd bring my very well behaved nieces and nephews along with me. I believe in the teachings of the great philosopher Dr. Seuss. From his book Horton Hears a Who---"A person's a person no matter how small.". Though I think I would not want to sit with you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
$hip$hape Posted August 4, 2019 #815 Share Posted August 4, 2019 (edited) 15 hours ago, LandlockedCruiser01 said: Just say something like: "I don't feel right intruding on a family meal." A socially attuned host(ess) will know what it's code for, and will most likely seat you with other adults. Children are not allowed on Viking, our next cruise, so no problem. I would be more apt to say, to a hostess, "Please, you sat us next to the busy galley/kitchen door yesterday. Could you find us a quiet corner whilst we wait?" Yes, we've had no problems with a change of seating. Edited August 4, 2019 by $hip$hape Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPT Trips Posted August 4, 2019 #816 Share Posted August 4, 2019 I can hear it now coming from tables with the pit bull judgmentalists "CPT Trips strong and able, get your elbows off the table." And then it starts for DarrenM . . . I'm fine with kids in lots of settings. But when DW and I get away or tour, we prefer not to "enjoy" other people's ankle biters. Now if we travel to Disney or some other obviously kid place, we expect them. A 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zitsky Posted August 4, 2019 #817 Share Posted August 4, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, ontheweb said: I believe in the teachings of the great philosopher Dr. Seuss. From his book Horton Hears a Who---"A person's a person no matter how small.". Though I think I would not want to sit with you. No children are NOT small adults. Some know how to behave. Many do not. There is a strange effort in this country to elevate kids as if they are some kind of holy object. Just let them be (well behaved) kids. *(Yes some kids are more mature for their age, but you can't know that when sitting at a table.) Edited August 4, 2019 by zitsky 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biorag Posted August 4, 2019 #818 Share Posted August 4, 2019 Well, never had any horrid table mates, but we did once share with a lovely family from Boivia. Their kids and ours got on fantastically despite the language barrier. My next cruise is solo, assigned seating...yikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare c-boy Posted August 4, 2019 #819 Share Posted August 4, 2019 20 hours ago, zitsky said: If someone uses the word misfortune because they had dinner with someone they don't like, I would say they are over sensitive. Get some nerve, stand up, and walk away from the table. it's an East coast, West coast thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zitsky Posted August 4, 2019 #820 Share Posted August 4, 2019 4 minutes ago, c-boy said: it's an East coast, West coast thing I've lived East Coast, Midwest, West Coast and South. I don't accept that you can classify an attitude as black and white. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
$hip$hape Posted August 4, 2019 #821 Share Posted August 4, 2019 (edited) 58 minutes ago, zitsky said: No children are NOT small adults. Some know how to behave. Many do not. There is a strange effort in this country to elevate kids as if they are some kind of holy object. Just let them be (well behaved) kids. *(Yes some kids are more mature for their age, but you can't know that when sitting at a table.) IMHO, Helicopter parents feel their offspring should be the center of attention on the cruise, and at the table. Me thinks, they should be left at home with grandparents.😉 Edited August 4, 2019 by $hip$hape 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zitsky Posted August 4, 2019 #822 Share Posted August 4, 2019 8 minutes ago, $hip$hape said: IMHO, Helicopter parents feel their offspring should be the center of attention on the cruise, and at the table. Me thinks, they should be left at home with grandparents.😉 I understand why pax don't want to deal with this. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LandlockedCruiser01 Posted August 4, 2019 #823 Share Posted August 4, 2019 3 hours ago, ontheweb said: I believe in the teachings of the great philosopher Dr. Seuss. From his book Horton Hears a Who---"A person's a person no matter how small.". Yes, true. But since "a person's a person, no matter how small", then every person has a right to choose who to associate with. Plus, my politically correct statement isn't entirely fake. I'm sure kids would feel equally awkward with a new adult joining their table, especially younger kids. Either I had socially attuned hosts or I've been lucky. Every time I shared at table, whether at assigned seating (dinner) or ad hoc (breakfast and lunch), I always got seated with adults. Usually older couples or groups of friends, the demographics that tend to be most inclusive of solos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ontheweb Posted August 4, 2019 #824 Share Posted August 4, 2019 2 hours ago, zitsky said: No children are NOT small adults. Some know how to behave. Many do not. There is a strange effort in this country to elevate kids as if they are some kind of holy object. Just let them be (well behaved) kids. *(Yes some kids are more mature for their age, but you can't know that when sitting at a table.) I never said they were small adults, but they are people, not some alien monsters. I think I'd rather have children at our table than some of the trulhy narrow minded adults I am reading in this thread. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarrenM Posted August 4, 2019 #825 Share Posted August 4, 2019 I would rather have neither . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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