ar1950 Posted February 24, 2020 #3076 Share Posted February 24, 2020 (edited) 16 minutes ago, JennAngel9 said: Has anybody heard from the Abel family in the past 24h? There was a new Youtube video by the son about an hour ago. Look for David Abel Celebrant Training, Vlog 67. Edited February 24, 2020 by ar1950 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Coral Posted February 24, 2020 #3077 Share Posted February 24, 2020 (edited) Nebraska Medicine is gaining one more patient from the Diamond Princess who has tested positive for the virus.. This individual has been staying in Lackland Air Force Base in Texas and is being flown to Omaha. I am not exactly sure why they are coming here - except their spouse is in an isolation unit in Omaha. They will also be in an isolation unit as their condition doesn't warrant the biocontainment unit. This brings out count to 14 in Omaha. Here is a daily update site: https://www.nebraskamed.com/COVID Edited February 24, 2020 by Coral 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caribill Posted February 24, 2020 #3078 Share Posted February 24, 2020 9 hours ago, npcl said: what I am saying is that there was an agreement with the japanese. there was a list developed and agreed to. Custody was transferred from the Japanesr to the US. At that point it is a problem for the US to deal with. Leaving them there would have required the Japanese to allow the transfer of custody back to Japan. So at that point the choices were 1. get Japan to accept custody and leave them there 2. transport them back to the US 3. get another plane to put them on. The choice taken was 2 with as much separation as possible. The most possible separation possible would have been to put all 14 on the same plane, totally separated from the passengers on the other plane. By dividing the 14 confirmed infected passengers between two planes, they risked exposure to all the other passengers on both planes. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maryann2 Posted February 24, 2020 #3079 Share Posted February 24, 2020 8 minutes ago, JennAngel9 said: Thank you, Liz. Has anybody heard from the Abel family in the past 24h? Just now, ar1950 said: There was a new Youtube video by the son about an hour ago. Look for David Abel Celebrant Training, Vlog 67. Vlog 67 very quick update - YouTube 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caribill Posted February 24, 2020 #3080 Share Posted February 24, 2020 4 hours ago, npcl said: Were you on the plane? If so how was it sealed? Was it set up with anything to filter air in that part of the plane and make it slightly lower pressure. How far were those passengers separated from the others in the plane? Could you feel any air flow around the sheeting? Have you seen the photos of the plane? No way anything was set up to filter air from a section of the plane. No way there was a different air pressure behind the plastic. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glam mistress Posted February 25, 2020 #3081 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Apologies if this was already posted. https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/cruises/2020/02/24/coronavirus-diamond-princess-cruise-ship-quarantine-flawed-japan-says/4860071002/ TOKYO — Japanese health officials and experts on a government panel acknowledged Monday that the quarantine of the coronavirus-hit Diamond Princess cruise ship was not perfect, but defended Japan's decision to release about 1,000 passengers after 14 days. The officials said Japanese health authorities faced tough challenges in dealing with a foreign-operated ship that required international negotiations in the absence of established rules in such a crisis. Princess Cruises is owned by Carnival Corporation and its headquarters are in Santa Clarita, California. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kathy49 Posted February 25, 2020 #3082 Share Posted February 25, 2020 1 hour ago, caribill said: Have you seen the photos of the plane? No way anything was set up to filter air from a section of the plane. No way there was a different air pressure behind the plastic. I was the one that posted about the partition....that was simply not going to create different air pressure and any other filters etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dog Posted February 25, 2020 #3083 Share Posted February 25, 2020 1 hour ago, maryann2 said: Vlog 67 very quick update - YouTube Thanks. Sounds like they got pocket wifi. I had that on my cruise around Japan. Worked better then ship’s internet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glam mistress Posted February 25, 2020 #3084 Share Posted February 25, 2020 News: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khewston Posted February 25, 2020 #3085 Share Posted February 25, 2020 2 hours ago, caribill said: The most possible separation possible would have been to put all 14 on the same plane, totally separated from the passengers on the other plane. By dividing the 14 confirmed infected passengers between two planes, they risked exposure to all the other passengers on both planes. I would think that if you are infected in a cabin with your spouse, they remove you from the cabin, wouldn't your spouse have to start their 14 day quarantine all over again. As for the couple from the US, who had posted on Facebook, there seems no common sense. This is what I got out of the whole situation. 1) They had the divider open on the balcony so they could 'hangout' with their friends in the cabin next to them. 2) The wife, posted a video on Facebook of herself walking all over the cabin and balcony bragging about spending time with her friend. 3) Her friend tests positive and is taken off the ship. 4) Shortly after that The US sends 2 planes to bring the Americans home. 5) I see her interviewed on a news station and she said, "they made up a lie, and said their tests came back negative", this was so they could board the plane. 6) A couple of hours into the flight her husband has a high fever. If all of this is true, who allowed it to happen? Her husband tested positive. So, doesn't that mean that all those people they were in contact with on the bus and plane are at very high risk? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charmed1959 Posted February 25, 2020 #3086 Share Posted February 25, 2020 2 hours ago, Coral said: Nebraska Medicine is gaining one more patient from the Diamond Princess who has tested positive for the virus.. This individual has been staying in Lackland Air Force Base in Texas and is being flown to Omaha. I am not exactly sure why they are coming here - except their spouse is in an isolation unit in Omaha. They will also be in an isolation unit as their condition doesn't warrant the biocontainment unit. This brings out count to 14 in Omaha. Here is a daily update site: https://www.nebraskamed.com/COVID The CDC is reporting 36 passengers from the Diamond Princess that we brought home are testing positive for the virus. Omaha has 14. Lackland AFB says they have 5 more. Are the other 17 near Travis AFB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare OzKiwiJJ Posted February 25, 2020 #3087 Share Posted February 25, 2020 51 minutes ago, dog said: Thanks. Sounds like they got pocket wifi. I had that on my cruise around Japan. Worked better then ship’s internet They have a iPhone with unlimited internet. Stephen thinks it was organized by Princess. Davind is having problems connecting with YouTube though. Stephen had a FaceTime session with them. They are both doing OK although Sally's cough is worse. No fevers which is confusing the medical experts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kathy49 Posted February 25, 2020 #3088 Share Posted February 25, 2020 35 minutes ago, glam mistress said: News: Boy those numbers for the Princess ship are scary: Diamond Princess 691 4 35 serious, 2 recovered.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kathy49 Posted February 25, 2020 #3089 Share Posted February 25, 2020 30 minutes ago, khewston said: I would think that if you are infected in a cabin with your spouse, they remove you from the cabin, wouldn't your spouse have to start their 14 day quarantine all over again. As for the couple from the US, who had posted on Facebook, there seems no common sense. This is what I got out of the whole situation. 1) They had the divider open on the balcony so they could 'hangout' with their friends in the cabin next to them. 2) The wife, posted a video on Facebook of herself walking all over the cabin and balcony bragging about spending time with her friend. 3) Her friend tests positive and is taken off the ship. 4) Shortly after that The US sends 2 planes to bring the Americans home. 5) I see her interviewed on a news station and she said, "they made up a lie, and said their tests came back negative", this was so they could board the plane. 6) A couple of hours into the flight her husband has a high fever. If all of this is true, who allowed it to happen? Her husband tested positive. So, doesn't that mean that all those people they were in contact with on the bus and plane are at very high risk? I have been watching that group too...one video has them making jokes about the masks....now another person in quarantine in Omaha has been transferred to the hospital unit with symptoms...I believe at this point 3 of the 4 in those cabins are positive and under care. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Coral Posted February 25, 2020 #3090 Share Posted February 25, 2020 (edited) 29 minutes ago, charmed1959 said: The CDC is reporting 36 passengers from the Diamond Princess that we brought home are testing positive for the virus. Omaha has 14. Lackland AFB says they have 5 more. Are the other 17 near Travis AFB? Omaha has 12 who have tested positive (assuming the one arrived tonight from Texas). 2 are still testing negative and in isolation rooms. Sorry I implied otherwise. Edited February 25, 2020 by Coral 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare SumoCitrus Posted February 25, 2020 #3091 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Has anyone fully recovered from this thing? If so, where are they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlyssaJames Posted February 25, 2020 #3092 Share Posted February 25, 2020 5 minutes ago, Coral said: Omaha has 12 who have tested positive (assuming the one arrived tonight from Texas). 2 are still testing negative and in isolation rooms. Sorry I implied otherwise. By the way, I’ve appreciated your ongoing contributions from the “inside”. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlyssaJames Posted February 25, 2020 #3093 Share Posted February 25, 2020 1 minute ago, SumoCitrus said: Has anyone fully recovered from this thing? If so, where are they? Yes. The US has been sending home recovered people and monitoring them. For example the couple in San Benito. They’re generally respecting those people’s privacy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRANDEE Posted February 25, 2020 #3094 Share Posted February 25, 2020 (edited) Sorry if this is a repeat question. I have scrolled the last five pages and can not find an answer. Is there any information regarding the passengers let off the ship after 14 days who tested negative? They were given a ride to the train station and a day later told to do a self imposed quarantine. Are there any numbers of these passengers, some Japanese who went home and some others, who went touring Toyko, who have now become sick? Are they just roaming without any tracking? I'm more concerned about them, than those who went home to their own countries for an additional 14 day quarantine. Better to become ill in your own country and be taken care of and hopefully protect the rest of the population. To be given a ride off the ship to do whatever...on day 15 was irresponsible. Thanks Edited February 25, 2020 by BRANDEE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Coral Posted February 25, 2020 #3095 Share Posted February 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, SumoCitrus said: Has anyone fully recovered from this thing? If so, where are they? Not on the Diamond Princess, but the first patient in the US to be diagnosed was in Washington State and he fully recovered and was released. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LizNeedsAVacation Posted February 25, 2020 #3096 Share Posted February 25, 2020 15 minutes ago, Coral said: Not on the Diamond Princess, but the first patient in the US to be diagnosed was in Washington State and he fully recovered and was released. The article I posted said 2 crew from the Philippines have recovered and been released and 5 more are expected to be released soon. That was an article specifically about the Filipino crew and guests so there are likely more. what I don’t know is if anyone has gone from serious or critical to recovered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imescaping Posted February 25, 2020 #3097 Share Posted February 25, 2020 40 minutes ago, kathy49 said: I have been watching that group too...one video has them making jokes about the masks....now another person in quarantine in Omaha has been transferred to the hospital unit with symptoms...I believe at this point 3 of the 4 in those cabins are positive and under care. I am open to the possibility that we are talking about different people, or that I am behind the times, but if we are talking about the same group of 4, Carl said on his last blog post that his wife is still testing negative, and Mark is at Travis AFB and I have been keeping up with his and his wife Jerri's FB posts. I think the group is still at 2 pos 2 neg. Jeri, Carl's wife, (wives are Jeri and Jerri) quit posting because she feels people misunderstood what she said and every time she tries to explain she is just making it worse. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kathy49 Posted February 25, 2020 #3098 Share Posted February 25, 2020 4 minutes ago, imescaping said: I am open to the possibility that we are talking about different people, or that I am behind the times, but if we are talking about the same group of 4, Carl said on his last blog post that his wife is still testing negative, and Mark is at Travis AFB and I have been keeping up with his and his wife Jerri's FB posts. I think the group is still at 2 pos 2 neg. Jeri, Carl's wife, (wives are Jeri and Jerri) quit posting because she feels people misunderstood what she said and every time she tries to explain she is just making it worse. you are probably correct...i guess it was someone transferred from elsewhere. IT is hard to keep all of these people straight. Carl sure is taking the whole thing well....guess not much choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Germancruiser Posted February 25, 2020 #3099 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Since now Itlay is included in the list of countries of which one has not to have traveled from or to before boarding. I guess before long one has to show a negativ test- a very actuell negativ test! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JennAngel9 Posted February 25, 2020 #3100 Share Posted February 25, 2020 1 hour ago, BRANDEE said: Is there any information regarding the passengers let off the ship after 14 days who tested negative? They were given a ride to the train station and a day later told to do a self imposed quarantine. Are there any numbers of these passengers, some Japanese who went home and some others, who went touring Toyko, who have now become sick? Are they just roaming without any tracking? I'm more concerned about them, than those who went home to their own countries for an additional 14 day quarantine. Better to become ill in your own country and be taken care of and hopefully protect the rest of the population. To be given a ride off the ship to do whatever...on day 15 was irresponsible. The short answer is no. As far as I can tell, Japan has no plans to retest any of them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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