mrlevin Posted March 7, 2020 #876 Share Posted March 7, 2020 Could California refuse to let the ship dock? Or, can the Federal Government override the state? I don't know how many remember the story of the St Louis in 1939 where Jewish refugees were forbidden to dock in Florida and were sent back to Europe. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoohUnderstands Posted March 7, 2020 #877 Share Posted March 7, 2020 19 minutes ago, need2cruisesoon said: I suspect this will be the Grands last voyage, I can't see how Princess would continue on with this old ship. Maybe better to cut your losses and mothball this ship as the stigma of this episode will remain etched with many future cruisers. Why? They will do a complete sanitizing of this ship before next cruise will occur. The virus can only live so long without people as carriers. Yes, I agree it will probably be awhile before they use her again and will have to cancel many upcoming cruises, but mothball her? I have a cruise on her booked for June, 2021, and look forward to our trip. Pooh 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fragilek Posted March 7, 2020 #878 Share Posted March 7, 2020 21 minutes ago, flyguyjake said: Perhaps this is the person they took off the ship already? I sure hope so. I think they also took a couple off? reports from some on the ship on twitter suggest she has. but no idea what impact this will have on her getting the next chemo soon, as I imagine they will have to make sure she is not habouring the virus before starting 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostchild Posted March 7, 2020 #879 Share Posted March 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Reader0108598 said: Love your post there are many reasons for coughing ! Allergy season too here in California. Everybody is coughing at work in the last 4 weeks... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arabrab Posted March 7, 2020 #880 Share Posted March 7, 2020 OK, I do NOT understand the folks in panic because they're going to run out of their medications today. Why would anyone go on a trip without a few extra days of important medications? That is foolish in the extreme even without COVID19 issues. Lots of things can delay a return to port. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WonderMan3 Posted March 7, 2020 #881 Share Posted March 7, 2020 6 minutes ago, npcl said: could be, but now no efforts at all to limit uri on board. you would not catch everyone but you could get early indication of a problem, potentially limiting spread. Exactly. Of course you are not going to catch everyone who may get sick but any identification of illness certainly helps rather than hurts. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Psoque Posted March 7, 2020 #882 Share Posted March 7, 2020 9 minutes ago, arabrab said: OK, I do NOT understand the folks in panic because they're going to run out of their medications today. Why would anyone go on a trip without a few extra days of important medications? That is foolish in the extreme even without COVID19 issues. Lots of things can delay a return to port. A lot of people think that the ship has a huge pharmacy, and some of these people often don't bring enough of their medications, even when there is not a possible epidemic at hand. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maizer Posted March 7, 2020 #883 Share Posted March 7, 2020 (edited) Seems like trucks and trailers full of provisions for what would have been the Grands next cruise is pulling up to the terminals in San Francisco. Sigh. Wonder what will happen to all those food and supplies... Edited March 7, 2020 by maizer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2wheelin Posted March 7, 2020 #884 Share Posted March 7, 2020 27 minutes ago, npcl said: could be, but now no efforts at all to limit uri on board. you would not catch everyone but you could get early indication of a problem, potentially limiting spread. With your apparent exposure concerns on board, are you now in self quarantine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gander Posted March 7, 2020 #885 Share Posted March 7, 2020 Grand still about 70 miles SW of Bay Area ( circling ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brisalta Posted March 7, 2020 #886 Share Posted March 7, 2020 2 hours ago, Pegasus2 said: The guy who served my drink touched the rim of the mug and put the spoon directly on the counter. The person serving you was poorly trained/educated. You should have refused to accept that drink and explained why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caribill Posted March 7, 2020 #887 Share Posted March 7, 2020 Pence said that the ship will dock at a non-commercial port (but did not say when or where) and all of the passengers and crew will be tested. Those who are positive will be quarantined as necessary. Those who are ill will be treated. But he did not say that anyone would or would not be allowed to leave the ship 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunshine3601 Posted March 7, 2020 #888 Share Posted March 7, 2020 1 hour ago, npcl said: yep a system would not need you to disclose anything, only that you have been cleared. And that would only need to be available to ship. otherwise let's just continue with no process to contain on ship until all countries shut down cruises. What ship to you get off today that appeared to have sick passengers disembarking at port? Sorry I couldn't find your original post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare debsjc Posted March 7, 2020 #889 Share Posted March 7, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, caribill said: Pence said that the ship willdock at a non-commercial port and all of the passengers and crew will be tested. Those who are positive will be quarantined as necessary. Those who are ill will be treated. But he did not say that anyone would or would not be allowed to leave the ship He said that yesterday, goodness knows what is taking them so long. Edited March 7, 2020 by debsjc 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunshine3601 Posted March 7, 2020 #890 Share Posted March 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, caribill said: Pence said that the ship willdock at a non-commercial port and all of the passengers and crew will be tested. Those who are positive will be quarantined as necessary. Those who are ill will be treated. But he did not say that anyone would or would not be allowed to leave the ship Maybe this time they decided to tell passengers on grand before announcing their status on tv 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrongwaywatson Posted March 7, 2020 #891 Share Posted March 7, 2020 2 hours ago, need2cruisesoon said: I suspect this will be the Grands last voyage, I can't see how Princess would continue on with this old ship. Maybe better to cut your losses and mothball this ship as the stigma of this episode will remain etched with many future cruisers. There is absolutely no reason to take The Grand out of commission. The virus won't live on the ship without people and it will be easily decontaminated. It is PEOPLE that are the problem, not the ship. We have sailed on her 3 times, the last time on the 15 day SF to Hawaii and back cruise. We love her! We are booked to sail on her to Alaska 5/30 of this year. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caribill Posted March 7, 2020 #892 Share Posted March 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, Cruise Raider said: And, just what would you have wanted him to say? a) Where and when the ship would be allowed to dock b) That testing kits are available and when the results of those tests would be available by c) What will happen to the passengers that test negative -- will they be allowed to leave the ship and go home or leave the ship and be held somewhere on land or be forced to stay on the ship for ?? days 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Cruise Raider Posted March 7, 2020 #893 Share Posted March 7, 2020 Just now, caribill said: a) Where and when the ship would be allowed to dock b) That testing kits are available and the resultrs of those tests would be available by ??? c) What will hapen to the passengers that test negative -- will they be allowed to leave the ship and go home or leave the ship and be held somewhere on land or be forced to stay on the ship for ?? days Perhaps those logistics haven't been determined yet. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caribill Posted March 7, 2020 #894 Share Posted March 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Cruise Raider said: Perhaps those logistics haven't been determined yet. Earlier this week we were told that would be one result of the meeting. At the very least he could have said that has yet to be determined instead of not mentioning it at all. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voljeep Posted March 7, 2020 #895 Share Posted March 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, wrongwaywatson said: It is PEOPLE that are the problem, not the ship. if what you meant included crew, then yes … sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brisalta Posted March 7, 2020 #896 Share Posted March 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, wrongwaywatson said: There is absolutely no reason to take The Grand out of commission. The virus won't live on the ship without people and it will be easily decontaminated. It is PEOPLE that are the problem, not the ship. We have sailed on her 3 times, the last time on the 15 day SF to Hawaii and back cruise. We love her! We are booked to sail on her to Alaska 5/30 of this year. The Grand is a fine ship. Much nicer design than some of the newer ships in the fleet. Has a real promenade, indoor swimming pool, window suites, IC, Alfredo's, etc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helen haywood Posted March 7, 2020 #897 Share Posted March 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, caribill said: a) Where and when the ship would be allowed to dock b) That testing kits are available and when the results of those tests would be available by c) What will happen to the passengers that test negative -- will they be allowed to leave the ship and go home or leave the ship and be held somewhere on land or be forced to stay on the ship for ?? days For a) perhaps they don’t want to announce it so the press doesn’t go camp out there. As for c) that decision probably rides on the results of further testing. Based on the numbers there could be several different plans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2wheelin Posted March 7, 2020 #898 Share Posted March 7, 2020 Just now, caribill said: Earlier this week we were told that would be one result of the meeting. At the very least he could have said that has yet to be determined instead of not mentioning it at all. It was said they are still talking (negotiating?) with CA governor so obviously not yet decided. I think it should be taken out of the hands of a local official. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brisalta Posted March 7, 2020 #899 Share Posted March 7, 2020 31 minutes ago, maizer said: Seems like trucks and trailers full of provisions for what would have been the Grands next cruise is pulling up to the terminals in San Francisco. Sigh. Wonder what will happen to all those food and supplies... Are the trucks still there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Joanna Posted March 7, 2020 #900 Share Posted March 7, 2020 VP Pence could have said: The Grand Princess will be docked at ???? Location. Testing of all passengers and crew will start this afternoon. Dr “yet to be identified” will coordinate all aspects of care for the Grand Princess passengers and crew. Dr “yet to be identified” will determine the safe dis-embarkation of passengers when appropriate. I was hoping for this type of press conference. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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