Nw1030 Posted March 25, 2020 #1 Share Posted March 25, 2020 Are people making payments for July and August trips or just losing deposits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wine-O Posted March 25, 2020 #2 Share Posted March 25, 2020 8 minutes ago, Nw1030 said: Are people making payments for July and August trips or just losing deposits My final payment for a 27 August cruise is late May, 2 months from now. I'm in the "wait and see" mode at the present time. 🍷 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
az_tchr Posted March 25, 2020 #3 Share Posted March 25, 2020 53 minutes ago, Nw1030 said: Are people making payments for July and August trips or just losing deposits Would Definately wait until the final payment date. That is some weeks away. If COVID is still active - likely - at some point Celebrity will need to cancel more cruises and possibly extend CWC. If it were me I would eliminate the stress and take a $200 hit if I lived in the US with a NRD. Airline fare is probably refundable on all tickets if there is a flight change of more than 60 minutes. Why stress? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lane412000 Posted March 25, 2020 #4 Share Posted March 25, 2020 Final payment due for my July 4, 2020 cruise and I made the final payment yesterday. Went all in 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Cruiser 6143 Posted March 25, 2020 #5 Share Posted March 25, 2020 2 hours ago, Nw1030 said: Are people making payments for July and August trips or just losing deposits If I cancel my August cruises prior to final payment, I will get my deposits back. Why would you not? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nw1030 Posted March 25, 2020 Author #6 Share Posted March 25, 2020 Booked on board. Extra perks but non refundable deposit. Huge price increase if I rebook for next summer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mayleeman Posted March 25, 2020 #7 Share Posted March 25, 2020 1 hour ago, az_tchr said: If it were me I would eliminate the stress and take a $200 hit if I lived in the US with a NRD. The problem is it is only a $200 hit if you take the rest of your NRD as FCC which requires you to book a new cruise. If you straight cancel, you lose your entire deposit if before final payment. After final, you lose an increasing percentage as the sail date gets closer. So, with final approaching, if you are wanting to cruise again, canceling and getting the NRD as FCC minus the $200 fee works fine (ignoring whether the FCC covers the new cruise, and the divvying up of the deposit per pax). But since they aren't suspending cruises until they all have gone into final, you have to pay the rest of the fare if you want to gamble that it will be cancelled eventually so you get full (or extra) value of the FCC (no refunds, apparently) with no hit. It is a pretty shady way of holding back on their decision making to fudge the books. Glad I am not a cruise company accountant. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Georgia_Peaches Posted March 25, 2020 #8 Share Posted March 25, 2020 55 minutes ago, Lane412000 said: Final payment due for my July 4, 2020 cruise and I made the final payment yesterday. Went all in Good for you! Hope it works out and you get to sail! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NantahalaCruiser Posted March 26, 2020 #9 Share Posted March 26, 2020 8 hours ago, mayleeman said: The problem is it is only a $200 hit if you take the rest of your NRD as FCC which requires you to book a new cruise. If you straight cancel, you lose your entire deposit if before final payment. After final, you lose an increasing percentage as the sail date gets closer. So, with final approaching, if you are wanting to cruise again, canceling and getting the NRD as FCC minus the $200 fee works fine (ignoring whether the FCC covers the new cruise, and the divvying up of the deposit per pax). But since they aren't suspending cruises until they all have gone into final, you have to pay the rest of the fare if you want to gamble that it will be cancelled eventually so you get full (or extra) value of the FCC (no refunds, apparently) with no hit. It is a pretty shady way of holding back on their decision making to fudge the books. Glad I am not a cruise company accountant. I have a NRD for a July 2020 sailing. I could be wrong, but the Cruise with Confidence policy seems to say that for sailings prior to 7/31/20 if you cancel prior to Final Payment Date you would get your full deposit back in the form of a FCC without a $200 reduction. From their website: Q: What happens if you decide you are not interested in getting a Future cruise Credit and simply wish to cancel for a refund, what are the options? A: If you wish to cancel prior to final payment, you can absolutely do so for a full refund of all monies paid to-date, and the nonrefundable deposits will be returned in the form of a FCC. After final payment, the standard cancellation penalties apply for guests not interested in taking advantage of the Cruise with Confidence policy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare hcat Posted March 26, 2020 #10 Share Posted March 26, 2020 So disgusted at this point. I'd get out with the least hit and get real money back to your card...even if it takes very long to come through. I would not send them even more money to hoard! On the other hand, if you do make final payment and X cancels ( likely) you will get a full refund. We are planning to use up our fcc and then look for other vacation options. ! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upwarduk Posted March 26, 2020 #11 Share Posted March 26, 2020 17 hours ago, Happy Cruiser 6143 said: If I cancel my August cruises prior to final payment, I will get my deposits back. Why would you not? Not if you live in UK, we loose deposits if we cancel. However, I phoned our TA yesterday and said I was not prepared to pay on 3rd. May for a cruise on a ship ( Silhouette TA cancelled 17th April) that might not be brought to Southampton. She rang Celebrity and they have extended the payment date to 5th June, which it would be if we had booked direct with Celebrity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HS2BS Posted March 26, 2020 #12 Share Posted March 26, 2020 Does anyone know if we can transfer our August cruise deposit($900) with $200 of that as the NRD, to another cruise next year instead of canceling? Hal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wine-O Posted March 26, 2020 #13 Share Posted March 26, 2020 5 minutes ago, HS2BS said: Does anyone know if we can transfer our August cruise deposit($900) with $200 of that as the NRD, to another cruise next year instead of canceling? Hal I'm sure you can do that -- move your cruise to a different date/sailing, but I believe they won't wave the $200 NRD. I would contact your TA. 🍷 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drakes2 Posted March 26, 2020 #14 Share Posted March 26, 2020 17 hours ago, Happy Cruiser 6143 said: If I cancel my August cruises prior to final payment, I will get my deposits back. Why would you not? I cancelled my July Bermuda cruise had only paid $125 CDN and received that amount as a FCC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ipeeinthepool Posted March 26, 2020 #15 Share Posted March 26, 2020 18 hours ago, Lane412000 said: Final payment due for my July 4, 2020 cruise and I made the final payment yesterday. Went all in I appreciate your optimism, but I'm not sure I understand making the final payment before the beginning of July. I would just as soon not have Celebrity hold my money and I don't understand why you take the additional risk of things going really bad. Then you may have difficulty getting your money back from Celebrity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mayleeman Posted March 26, 2020 #16 Share Posted March 26, 2020 @ipeeinthepool Maybe with Royal upping their credit line to over $2 billion, and with the stock rising 60% from its low, there might be more optimism about the prospects of the company surviving without bankruptcy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
az_tchr Posted March 26, 2020 #17 Share Posted March 26, 2020 (edited) 18 hours ago, mayleeman said: The problem is it is only a $200 hit if you take the rest of your NRD as FCC which requires you to book a new cruise. If you straight cancel, you lose your entire deposit if before final payment. After final, you lose an increasing percentage as the sail date gets closer. So, with final approaching, if you are wanting to cruise again, canceling and getting the NRD as FCC minus the $200 fee works fine (ignoring whether the FCC covers the new cruise, and the divvying up of the deposit per pax). But since they aren't suspending cruises until they all have gone into final, you have to pay the rest of the fare if you want to gamble that it will be cancelled eventually so you get full (or extra) value of the FCC (no refunds, apparently) with no hit. It is a pretty shady way of holding back on their decision making to fudge the books. Glad I am not a cruise company accountant. As already said - if you booked with a NRD then you get your deposit back less $100pp if cancelled prior to final payment date. You do not lose your entire deposit unless it was $200. Anything over $200 is refunded. You are not using Cruise with Confidence. Just a straight cancellation. Nothing shady. Edited March 26, 2020 by az_tchr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mayleeman Posted March 26, 2020 #18 Share Posted March 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, az_tchr said: As already said - if you booked with a NRD then you get your deposit back less $100pp if cancelled prior to final payment date. You do not lose your entire deposit unless it was $200. Nothing shady. Isn't that only for the Cruise With Confidence cruises? You still lose entire NRD for cruises beyond that period, don't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrk2cruise Posted March 26, 2020 #19 Share Posted March 26, 2020 5 minutes ago, mayleeman said: Isn't that only for the Cruise With Confidence cruises? You still lose entire NRD for cruises beyond that period, don't you? These are standard terms for NRD in the US/Canada if cancelling prior to final payment. The remainder of the deposit is returned in form of FCC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mayleeman Posted March 26, 2020 #20 Share Posted March 26, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, wrk2cruise said: These are standard terms for NRD in the US/Canada if cancelling prior to final payment. The remainder of the deposit is returned in form of FCC. That was my original statement--FCC, not refund. The post I was responding to said you get the depost back minus the fee. My original post's point was about the dichotomy between getting FCC (you might not be able to use) if you cancel before final versus getting a refund if you pay full fare and the cruise gets cancelled by the line after final. Edited March 26, 2020 by mayleeman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PelicanLvr Posted March 26, 2020 #21 Share Posted March 26, 2020 The ships will start sailing as soon as they get permission. Don't think I want to be on those given the completely novel situation this virus presents. Would you go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrk2cruise Posted March 26, 2020 #22 Share Posted March 26, 2020 For a cruise 3 months away I'm not going to gamble $300 in FCC (or I guess the whole deposit) hoping that the cruise gets cancelled by Celebrity. After all it was me that agreed to the NRD terms when I booked. This isn't my fault but it's not theirs either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonthomas Posted March 26, 2020 #23 Share Posted March 26, 2020 The cruise lines are not getting a bailout. We have recouped all our deposits and flight moneys. I am sure all of you are aware that FCCs may be worthless if there is no inventory to apply them to. I hope I am wrong. Someone on CC just wrote that they made final payment and are hoping for the best. And I wish them all the best, but throwing your money at the wind , hoping it comes back to you , is foolish. Again, I hope I am wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonthomas Posted March 26, 2020 #24 Share Posted March 26, 2020 34 minutes ago, mayleeman said: @ipeeinthepool Maybe with Royal upping their credit line to over $2 billion, and with the stock rising 60% from its low, there might be more optimism about the prospects of the company surviving without bankruptcy. I see this as RCI going into further debt. Nothing good can come out of that. Wish I could see the glass half full here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger88 Posted March 26, 2020 #25 Share Posted March 26, 2020 19 hours ago, Happy Cruiser 6143 said: If I cancel my August cruises prior to final payment, I will get my deposits back. Why would you not? The thing is that not everbody knows how it works. Such a simple operation sounds to difficult to execute for some. People mostly lose money due to being unaware or not educated enough. People are used to pay for things and getting what they paid for. For some its a holiday when they find out that they can get their money back. As for deposit payments, in 99% of the cases people let them stay in the office.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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