nelblu Posted January 13, 2021 #151 Share Posted January 13, 2021 23 hours ago, irishgal432 said: Thanks KEn. As always you are on top of the news. Are they allowing lift and shifts into May 2022 for those April sailings since it is +/- 4 weeks? My TA is L&S my Easter '21 sail to Easter '22. Now I'm getting concerned with my Sept. 5 sail on Oasis from Bayonne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted January 13, 2021 #152 Share Posted January 13, 2021 (edited) Not surprisingly, lack of response from the CDC is why test cruises haven't happened yet, and then connect the dots as to why cruise lines canceled 2 more months. The link to the particular blog website is blocked here but I'm sure you all can find it. Edited January 13, 2021 by smokeybandit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocean Boy Posted January 13, 2021 #153 Share Posted January 13, 2021 24 minutes ago, TheMastodon said: It's pretty clear what this thing is and people still have a hard time accepting that the vast majority of people who die avg 2.5 comorbidities and are over the age of 80. Yes, I am aware there are outliers. Outliers make for the best news stories!😇 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare island lady Posted January 13, 2021 #154 Share Posted January 13, 2021 On 1/12/2021 at 6:28 AM, spunks said: Ourusualbeach.... Where did you find this? I can not confirm through RCCL. Thanks Doug You can always pull up RCI website and click on "health and travel alerts" for the latest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare island lady Posted January 13, 2021 #155 Share Posted January 13, 2021 So with cancellations now through end of April...that puts my May cruises as this 😮 : Though I seriously doubt those will go either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken at the beach Posted January 13, 2021 Author #156 Share Posted January 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, island lady said: You can always pull up RCI website and click on "health and travel alerts" for the latest. It actually was not on Royals website when I posted and the other person asked me. Royal sent the notice to TA's before posting on their website 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare island lady Posted January 13, 2021 #157 Share Posted January 13, 2021 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Ourusualbeach said: It actually was not on Royals website when I posted and the other person asked me. Royal sent the notice to TA's before posting on their website Ahhh...thanks...the privileged few. 😉 Actually curious now...what is the time line between the TA advanced notice and the notice that is posted on RCI website? Edited January 13, 2021 by island lady Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voyager70 Posted January 13, 2021 #158 Share Posted January 13, 2021 23 minutes ago, island lady said: You can always pull up RCI website and click on "health and travel alerts" for the latest. 19 minutes ago, Ourusualbeach said: It actually was not on Royals website when I posted and the other person asked me. Royal sent the notice to TA's before posting on their website It's on the website as of this morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare island lady Posted January 13, 2021 #159 Share Posted January 13, 2021 1 minute ago, voyager70 said: It's on the website as of this morning. It was on yesterday. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken at the beach Posted January 13, 2021 Author #160 Share Posted January 13, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, voyager70 said: It's on the website as of this morning. it was only delayed by 30 - 60 minutes. Just long enough to cause confusion Edited January 13, 2021 by Ourusualbeach 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONECRUISER Posted January 13, 2021 #161 Share Posted January 13, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, firefly333 said: Didnt NY or someplace already announce covid test will be required for schools to reopen. I'd have to google who said it but some state already said kids will require covid vaccination. Testing, maybe. As said without an existing approved Vaccine and try give it to millions kids by July/Aug. They can say it but can't see it happening. Be lucky if existing Vaccine is available for me but Summer Edited January 13, 2021 by ONECRUISER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firefly333 Posted January 13, 2021 #162 Share Posted January 13, 2021 1 minute ago, ONECRUISER said: Testing, maybe. As said without an existing approved Vaccine and try give it to millions kids by July/Aug. They can say it but can't see it happening I think that's the point, they will be doing zoom, the teachers assoc doesnt want in person classes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted January 13, 2021 #163 Share Posted January 13, 2021 1 minute ago, firefly333 said: I think that's the point, they will be doing zoom, the teachers assoc doesnt want in person classes. My school district has been in person all year. Kids 10 and under don't have to wear masks. We've had zero in-school transmission of covid and less than 2 dozen kids/teachers/staff across the whole district who missed school due to covid or potential covid exposure. Teachers unions are doing extreme harm to their students by refusing to go back into the classroom 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONECRUISER Posted January 13, 2021 #164 Share Posted January 13, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, firefly333 said: I think that's the point, they will be doing zoom, the teachers assoc doesnt want in person classes. Depends on case numbers and State/Union's. Many kids been attending since July, some schools online. My Grand Daughters school gave choice which one they/Parents want to do, and this in high case State of Az. But as said a non-existing Vaccine required within 6 months for kids, dont see it. Edited January 13, 2021 by ONECRUISER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare island lady Posted January 13, 2021 #165 Share Posted January 13, 2021 47 minutes ago, Ourusualbeach said: it was only delayed by 30 - 60 minutes. Just long enough to cause confusion LOL...I bet. 😉 Still....it's nice for you to get a head's up at least a little bit in advance. 🙂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kangforpres Posted January 13, 2021 #166 Share Posted January 13, 2021 7 hours ago, BoozinCroozin said: Vaccines should be at a Chick Fil A drive thru on a Sunday. 100M vaccinations in one day throughout the nation. But people would be angry that they ran out of chicken sandwiches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maranelloboy05 Posted January 13, 2021 #167 Share Posted January 13, 2021 Based on this they really need to extend Lift & Shift, there's now no point to even having it, May 2021 cant be L&S'd to May 2022...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kangforpres Posted January 13, 2021 #168 Share Posted January 13, 2021 Seriously, large venues such as Dodger Stadium, Oakland Coliseum, Forty-Niners stadium in Santa Clara are being discussed as mass vaccination sites in California. Able to handle about 12K a day I heard. Plus CDC now says give shots to anyone over 65, and any adult who qualifies with an underlying condition. So yes things are about to speed way up. -Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
not-enough-cruising Posted January 13, 2021 #169 Share Posted January 13, 2021 2 hours ago, TheMastodon said: www.cdc.gov - much better info than the TV. Or just stay in your eco chamber ! Whatever helps you sleep at night. 2 hours ago, rimmit said: Yes. Exactly my point. Kids deaths are pretty much nonexistent. Child abuse, car wrecks, drowning, are much bigger problems for kids. That link was Slightly more updated than the CDC page I was referencing. But this page lumps 15-24 together. The one one I was referencing stratified out the group from 5-17 instead of 15-24 like the above charge. I have attached a screen shot of the page I was looking at on the CDC. Gives a more accurate picture of the younger age group by making the cutoff 18 instead of 24. You completely missed my point, the purpose of vaccinating children or adults for that matter has nothing to do with risk of death, it has to do with keeping massive amounts of people from being admitted to the hospital. For the record my echo chamber is the ICU at a very large medical center in Dallas. There are hospitals at the breaking point (I know the conspiracy theorists believe that this is a made up fact but I invite you to come and spend a day at work with me) vaccinating people can keep them from getting so ill to the point that they need to be hospitalized. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
not-enough-cruising Posted January 13, 2021 #170 Share Posted January 13, 2021 13 hours ago, ONECRUISER said: IF lucky Testing ends in Summer, best case, After would take months to Manufacture and give it. If actual cases drop takes longer to get through the testing. Don't see it. US Military no set plans to give Vaccine, in one yr only one Active Duty person has died. Where I'm at up to 1/3 workers in some Hospitals are declining Vaccine, State wide 26%. Even Biden an Faucci have said no Mandate and if a State tries make it Mandatory not sure they'd win in Court. Also many schools start in August, my Grand Daughters districts start 3rd week July. Don't get me wrong whenever I get chance get it I will get it that day and protect the ones around me. Though there are 200 Million in first Groups before they get to me. County I'm in now my Mother 75, COPD and Heart disease will be while before she gets hers. Only 225 appt for Vaccine, once a week,next 3weeks are filled with no other dates available yet. No wait list, whenever they open a date it's first come first serve sign up on line... .. US Numbers still running same 74% all CV cases are ages 18-64, but 81% all deaths are 65+ The vaccines being tested for children is the same vaccine adults are receiving now, there would be no manufacturing lag, it is a dosing modification. You are correct, the federal government won’t mandate it, but I find it hard to believe that an independent school district would mandate Hepatitis, Meningitis, Chicken Pox, MMR, and tDap won’t eventually require Covid. Just my opinion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMastodon Posted January 13, 2021 #171 Share Posted January 13, 2021 9 minutes ago, not-enough-cruising said: You completely missed my point, the purpose of vaccinating children or adults for that matter has nothing to do with risk of death, it has to do with keeping massive amounts of people from being admitted to the hospital. For the record my echo chamber is the ICU at a very large medical center in Dallas. There are hospitals at the breaking point (I know the conspiracy theorists believe that this is a made up fact but I invite you to come and spend a day at work with me) vaccinating people can keep them from getting so ill to the point that they need to be hospitalized. Yes I did miss your point. Yes we are vaccinating people which I support. Your experience is different than what my area is experiencing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soremekun Posted January 13, 2021 #172 Share Posted January 13, 2021 Can it be roughly calculated that the earliest a cruise ship can sail with paying passengers is 90 days out? 30 day written notice before test cruise. Then test cruise happens. If successful, then apply for a conditional sailing certificate 60 days before a cruise. That will actually tally over 90 days. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMiz Posted January 13, 2021 #173 Share Posted January 13, 2021 On 1/12/2021 at 9:54 AM, lr657 said: Looks like we now have another cruise cancelled. Final payment was due next week for our April 18th cruise, and even though we expected it to be cancelled we figured they wouldn't cancel until after final payment. I just made final on the Singapore cruise on Friday LOL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firefly333 Posted January 13, 2021 #174 Share Posted January 13, 2021 1 hour ago, ONECRUISER said: Testing, maybe. As said without an existing approved Vaccine and try give it to millions kids by July/Aug. They can say it but can't see it happening. Be lucky if existing Vaccine is available for me but Summer Ok I heard it again, its lost Angeles schools saying wait for kids to be vaccinated to go back in person. Hey I'm in texas, far away, hard to keep them separate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firefly333 Posted January 13, 2021 #175 Share Posted January 13, 2021 58 minutes ago, kangforpres said: But people would be angry that they ran out of chicken sandwiches I think his point about using chick fil a on Sunday was because they close on sundays. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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