MommaBear55 Posted February 13, 2021 #1 Share Posted February 13, 2021 Anyone have insider knowledge of when they think European sailings will resume? And when they might accept Americans in Europe again? If you have no insider knowledge, please feel free to post any answer as I'm easily amused Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare island lady Posted February 13, 2021 #2 Share Posted February 13, 2021 No problem...here you go. 😉 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dani negreanu Posted February 13, 2021 #3 Share Posted February 13, 2021 (edited) Summer of 2022. "Inside knowledge" (aka - gut feeling 😉) Edited February 13, 2021 by dani negreanu 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molly361 Posted February 13, 2021 #4 Share Posted February 13, 2021 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare island lady Posted February 13, 2021 #5 Share Posted February 13, 2021 18 minutes ago, molly361 said: LOL!! My Genie likes your program as well. 😄 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHawk1 Posted February 13, 2021 #6 Share Posted February 13, 2021 This is a good question. I booked a Next Cruise in Feb. 2020 for a Mediterranean cruise on Harmony in September 2021. No one knows yet if it will sail, but even if it does, I doubt Europe will be allowing North Americans to fly over there and board cruises. Was thinking of trying to get a FCC and re-book for same Mediterranean itinerary in September, 2022 on Allure. Any suggestions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AF-1 Posted February 13, 2021 #7 Share Posted February 13, 2021 (edited) I think the only large cruse line cruising in Europe at this time is MSC Edited February 13, 2021 by AF-1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Baltic Posted February 13, 2021 #8 Share Posted February 13, 2021 2 hours ago, dani negreanu said: Summer of 2022. "Inside knowledge" (aka - gut feeling 😉) Agree with this. From where I’m sitting it’s more difficult to travel within Europe than it was last Summer. European countries have started their vaccination process, in a lot of cases slower than hoped due to lack of vaccines. Variations of the virus have spooked a lot of countries and travel restrictions are the end result. In Ireland, our government is saying forgot about non essential travel this year. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunshine3601 Posted February 14, 2021 #9 Share Posted February 14, 2021 MSC announced their european sailing start up dates for march thru may for various ships. Only allowing europeans from Schegen areas. Imo I think rcl will have a couple sailings in europe this summer but dont think travelers from US will be allowed. I think they will stick to europeans only like other cruise lines in europe are doing. Pretty much like they are doing on the quantum in singapore with only residents of singapore allowed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Posted February 14, 2021 #10 Share Posted February 14, 2021 We have a late September 2021 sailing from Europe, so I guess we are kind of in good position since we will probably know well before final payments are due whether or not the summer sailings from Europe are going to happen or not. I'm counting on the L&S being an option, so we can switch to 2022. Only time will tell if we will have that option. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken at the beach Posted February 14, 2021 #11 Share Posted February 14, 2021 3 minutes ago, Jimbo said: We have a late September 2021 sailing from Europe, so I guess we are kind of in good position since we will probably know well before final payments are due whether or not the summer sailings from Europe are going to happen or not. I'm counting on the L&S being an option, so we can switch to 2022. Only time will tell if we will have that option. I’m feeling the same way about our August cruise. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted February 14, 2021 #12 Share Posted February 14, 2021 10 hours ago, AF-1 said: I think the only large cruse line cruising in Europe at this time is MSC Tui may not qualify as "large" (has 6 ships) but they have been sailing since July. Costa is sailing as well. It might be in the Canaries, but they are sailing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cublet Posted February 14, 2021 #13 Share Posted February 14, 2021 Hello, Other than for defined purposes, ie not including holidays, travel both domestic and international is currently illegal here in/from the UK. However, an announcement is due on 22nd February on the timetable for lifting the various restrictions we have in place, eg the opening of non-essential shops, bars and restaurants. But should travel bans be lifted, it takes two to tango - or at least to travel, one as a guest and one as host. What other European counties are going to do and when they are going to do it is unknown. For economies reliant on tourism, Greece for example, the doors are open but today Germany put border controls in place. My personal view is that we can forget May & June sailings ex UK. July & August I would say are 50/50 - providing someone is willing to take us. I foresee returning to some sort of normality in September. It would not surprise me, in fact please me greatly, to see an extended ex UK season beyond the scheduled Anthem TA in October. I don't think I've produced a better crystal ball, but I hope I've given it a light dusting. Regards, Cublet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dani negreanu Posted February 14, 2021 #14 Share Posted February 14, 2021 11 hours ago, AF-1 said: I think the only large cruse line cruising in Europe at this time is MSC 1 hour ago, Biker19 said: Tui may not qualify as "large" (has 6 ships) but they have been sailing since July. Costa is sailing as well. It might be in the Canaries, but they are sailing. As much as I'd like to cruise, I "'draw the line" at Costa, TUI and MSC. It's not just cruising -- it's the whole experience. YMMV 😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare little britain Posted February 14, 2021 #15 Share Posted February 14, 2021 2 hours ago, cublet said: Hello, Other than for defined purposes, ie not including holidays, travel both domestic and international is currently illegal here in/from the UK. However, an announcement is due on 22nd February on the timetable for lifting the various restrictions we have in place, eg the opening of non-essential shops, bars and restaurants. But should travel bans be lifted, it takes two to tango - or at least to travel, one as a guest and one as host. What other European counties are going to do and when they are going to do it is unknown. For economies reliant on tourism, Greece for example, the doors are open but today Germany put border controls in place. My personal view is that we can forget May & June sailings ex UK. July & August I would say are 50/50 - providing someone is willing to take us. I foresee returning to some sort of normality in September. It would not surprise me, in fact please me greatly, to see an extended ex UK season beyond the scheduled Anthem TA in October. I don't think I've produced a better crystal ball, but I hope I've given it a light dusting. Regards, Cublet Now that Boris has 💯% his vaccine schedule, I would not be surprised to see a few cruises to nowhere from Southampton. Ben said there probably would be too. And +1 to keep Anthem here over the winter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davekathy Posted February 14, 2021 #16 Share Posted February 14, 2021 20 hours ago, molly361 said: 21 hours ago, island lady said: No problem...here you go. 😉 And if needed, I've got your back...🎱 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelKaps Posted February 14, 2021 #17 Share Posted February 14, 2021 I'm really hoping my Greece cruise on Odyssey sails in October. It will be my honeymoon and I booked it the first day the itinerary dropped in December 2019. Hopefully we have enough information before my final payment date in July. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisin from florida Posted February 15, 2021 #18 Share Posted February 15, 2021 We're waiting for our July '21 Greek Isles on Rhapsody to get cancelled. Plan to lift and shift to '22. Wondering can/should we do that now, while stateroom availability is better... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cublet Posted February 15, 2021 #19 Share Posted February 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, cruisin from florida said: We're waiting for our July '21 Greek Isles on Rhapsody to get cancelled. Plan to lift and shift to '22. Wondering can/should we do that now, while stateroom availability is better... Hello, But what are current 2022 prices like now compared to 2021? Ex Southampton 2022 prices are up to 40% higher than 2021. Regards, Cublet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NancyIL Posted February 15, 2021 #20 Share Posted February 15, 2021 24 minutes ago, cruisin from florida said: We're waiting for our July '21 Greek Isles on Rhapsody to get cancelled. Plan to lift and shift to '22. Wondering can/should we do that now, while stateroom availability is better... You can’t Lift & Shift your Greek Isles cruise until RCI cancels it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AF-1 Posted February 15, 2021 #21 Share Posted February 15, 2021 NancyIL; what does lift & shift allow you to do? I am not familiar with this policy. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken at the beach Posted February 15, 2021 #22 Share Posted February 15, 2021 (edited) 18 minutes ago, AF-1 said: NancyIL; what does lift & shift allow you to do? I am not familiar with this policy. Thanks It allows you to move your cruise to next year price protecteted. Current terms have been plus/minus one week of original sail date and same ship although if one ship is replacing another the following year I am confident that would be allowed. Edited February 15, 2021 by Ourusualbeach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisin from florida Posted February 15, 2021 #23 Share Posted February 15, 2021 Sounds like we continue our game of chicken. We have a great price on a JS, so as soon as they cancel we'll try to Lift and Shift our Greek Isles cruise to '22. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AF-1 Posted February 15, 2021 #24 Share Posted February 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Ourusualbeach said: It allows you to move your cruise to next year price protecteted. Current terms have been plus/minus one week of original sail date and same ship although if one ship is replacing another the following year I am confident that would be allowed. Thank you very much for the explanation. I appreciate it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHawk1 Posted February 15, 2021 #25 Share Posted February 15, 2021 5 hours ago, cruisin from florida said: Sounds like we continue our game of chicken. We have a great price on a JS, so as soon as they cancel we'll try to Lift and Shift our Greek Isles cruise to '22. But waiting closer to sail date for the possibility of Lift and Shift means there might be less choice of cabins in 2022. That's why I was thinking of trying to get FCC now on my Sept. 2021 Mediterranean cruise and re-apply that to a deposit on a Med sailing for next year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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