I Have Covid

[Steelers36]

7 minutes ago, MissP22 said:

Isn't that the only way to be assured of not catching covid on a cruise ship except not cruising ?

A guest would need to self-confine to cabin for the entire voyage by that logic.  People have caught it who walked around masked, etc.  Some may have caught it at a port stop.  No way to know for sure, and reading posts over the past 10 days, I have often wondered what the actual source of the first cases were in order to begin the spread?  Could be some folks came aboard with it, but not revealed yet in testing nor symptoms.  From a crew member perhaps?  From a port terminal staff member?  We just don't know.

[Princessfan20]

1 hour ago, sboh said:

So sorry you are sick. I was on the same cruise and tested the morning after I arrived home and was negative and will test again later this week. So far no symptoms. I hope you feel better soon and have no further complications.

 

We just got our test results and both were Negative.  We did stay to ourselves on the ship, wore mask almost always outside our room except at Retreat Pool, only got off with a small tour group in SFO and did not take elevators or socialize with other passengers.  Still enjoyed ourselves though.

 

We did witness many many passengers who lived more freely and some had no problem coughing around others without the least bit of effort to conceal their sneezes.  

Edited April 12, 2022 by Princessfan20

[USCcruisecrazy]

8 minutes ago, Steelers36 said:

A guest would need to self-confine to cabin for the entire voyage by that logic.  People have caught it who walked around masked, etc.  Some may have caught it at a port stop.  No way to know for sure, and reading posts over the past 10 days, I have often wondered what the actual source of the first cases were in order to begin the spread?  Could be some folks came aboard with it, but not revealed yet in testing nor symptoms.  From a crew member perhaps?  From a port terminal staff member?  We just don't know.

That's completely true...the culprit could be any of the situations you listed.  I would also be curious to know the percent of cases that are someone that wore a mask everywhere and those that didn't.  From what I've read, most positives seem to be those that wore masks.  Perhaps handling the mask or having the virus on the mask so you breathe it through the mask for a longer period of time is the culprit.  Either way, if they make masking mandatory before our next cruise, we will forgo the cruise for another vacation.  Haven't worn a mask anywhere for over a year and won't start now for a "Vacation".  

[Coral]

3 minutes ago, USCcruisecrazy said:

That's completely true...the culprit could be any of the situations you listed.  I would also be curious to know the percent of cases that are someone that wore a mask everywhere and those that didn't.  From what I've read, most positives seem to be those that wore masks.  Perhaps handling the mask or having the virus on the mask so you breathe it through the mask for a longer period of time is the culprit.  Either way, if they make masking mandatory before our next cruise, we will forgo the cruise for another vacation.  Haven't worn a mask anywhere for over a year and won't start now for a "Vacation".  

I am guessing those who did not wear masks are probably less likely to test (with or with out symptoms) and if they do test, less likely to post here if they did test positive. I could be entirely wrong but I do know people who have symptoms, do not test and continue to go to school and work.

 

I do know when I traveled internationally - when I returned home, I tested 2x to make sure it was safe to return back to work even though I did not have symptoms. It was recommended by my employer.

Edited April 12, 2022 by Coral

[pompeii]

7 minutes ago, USCcruisecrazy said:

That's completely true...the culprit could be any of the situations you listed.  I would also be curious to know the percent of cases that are someone that wore a mask everywhere and those that didn't.  From what I've read, most positives seem to be those that wore masks.  Perhaps handling the mask or having the virus on the mask so you breathe it through the mask for a longer period of time is the culprit.  Either way, if they make masking mandatory before our next cruise, we will forgo the cruise for another vacation.  Haven't worn a mask anywhere for over a year and won't start now for a "Vacation".  

The reason you've read that "most positives seem to be those that wore masks" is that those who went unmasked and caught Covid are not going to post it here.  They are going to keep quiet about their infection.  

 

[RNRcruisers]

31 minutes ago, MissP22 said:

I can't give you an exact percentage but over the past 30 days on the Enchanted there were a very high percentage who chose not to wear masks either indoors or outdoors as they suggested.

Possibly 80 to 90 % at the show lounge went without masks (2 to 4 masked people per aisle) and maybe 99% percent outdoors. I still don't know what they meant by "outdoors" but some of the few paranoid were wearing them by the pool. 

I don't think I saw 5 or 6 people at the trivia shows with masks at any time. I suppose it was because most people were constantly drinking. 

There was also no enforcement of masking by any of the crew.....nor washing of hands except in early March where they requested you to. 

 

People will do what other people are doing. If they are all wearing masks then most will comply. If most are not wearing masks then they won't either (maybe don't want to be thought paranoid?).

 

On our January cruise masks were mandatory and most complied. It really wasn't difficult. This was during the Omicrom surge and we didn't have this current mess going on with cruises right now. That should tell us something.

 

I also feel if the workers can wear masks for all of their working hours then does it really hurt me to make the effort to keep them safer? It isn't always about us.

 

[san diego sue]

to Ms So Cal Cruiser:

Hope you have a speedy recovery:

We were also on the two weeks with you. Fortunately we tested negative during B2B and when we got home.We were also one of the masked at all times people. That first week on Discovery there were so many people that were mask free. In the elevators, people stuffing themselves in and no masks. I was in an elevator with my mask and people shoved in . I was only one with a mask. A man announced no way will he ever wear a mask  and no one could make him. No one answered and I know being the only one with one on, it was addressed to me. It took everything on my part not to tell him off.

 

[pompeii]

35 minutes ago, MissP22 said:

I can't give you an exact percentage but over the past 30 days on the Enchanted there were a very high percentage who chose not to wear masks either indoors or outdoors as they suggested.

Possibly 80 to 90 % at the show lounge went without masks (2 to 4 masked people per aisle) and maybe 99% percent outdoors. I still don't know what they meant by "outdoors" but some of the few paranoid were wearing them by the pool. 

I don't think I saw 5 or 6 people at the trivia shows with masks at any time. I suppose it was because most people were constantly drinking. 

There was also no enforcement of masking by any of the crew.....nor washing of hands except in early March where they requested you to. 

It's faulty logic to assume that because 80-90% of people in the theater were unmasked that means that 80-90% of passengers total chose not to wear masks.  After taking one look at the packed unmasked theater, we chose to forgo the shows.  Anecdotally, I spoke with numerous other passengers who felt the same way.  

[jeftammy]

I personally think it's the new variant that's the problem, as I've read it is spread even more easily than original Omicron.

We have an Alaska cruise/land tour on Majestic Princess scheduled in July and I'm thinking of canceling. I can't stand the thought of getting it on board and our party of 3 being confined to a quarantine cabin, effectively ruining our vacation and a huge amount of money wasted. Am I being too paranoid? We are still outside the cancellation penalty window.

[Astro Flyer]

13 minutes ago, jeftammy said:

Am I being too paranoid? We are still outside the cancellation penalty window.

Only you can answer that question.

[ebeluga]

55 minutes ago, Princessfan20 said:

We did witness many many passengers who lived more freely and some had no problem coughing around others without the least bit of effort to conceal their sneezes.  

If these people only showed some consideration...

[PescadoAmarillo]

1 hour ago, jeftammy said:

I personally think it's the new variant that's the problem, as I've read it is spread even more easily than original Omicron.

We have an Alaska cruise/land tour on Majestic Princess scheduled in July and I'm thinking of canceling. I can't stand the thought of getting it on board and our party of 3 being confined to a quarantine cabin, effectively ruining our vacation and a huge amount of money wasted. Am I being too paranoid? We are still outside the cancellation penalty window.

If it was just a 7 day cruise, I think you’d be safe, and least until you got home. But with that land tour…I don’t think you’re being too paranoid. It seems a lot of people are testing positive 4-5 days after exposure.

[JimmyVWine]

2 hours ago, Level six said:

It's really not the same at all.  The longest flight is about 15 hours and at that time you can leave the plane.  On a ship, especially on long voyages with many sea days, where can you go? You are stuck onboard. There is really no comparison with any other kind of travel or event. Nothing even compares to being on a ship.

It's even more different than that.  Certainly the boarding area and the boarding process are similar to a cruise. But once you are on a plane, you are more or less stationary.  Your chances of contracting a virus increase exponentially as you interact with more and more people.  You cannot compare going to an MDR or a showroom or a lounge with sitting in seat 15C where you only have a half dozen people within your sphere of influence.  The guy in 33F could be sick as a dog, but you'll never come in contact with him.  After 7 days on a cruise ship, the number of people you cross paths with is measured in the hundreds.  Maybe a thousand. 

 

2 hours ago, RNRcruisers said:

On our January cruise masks were mandatory and most complied. It really wasn't difficult. This was during the Omicrom surge and we didn't have this current mess going on with cruises right now. That should tell us something.

That tells me a lot.  While this community is not a scientific sample of anything, it is certainly anecdotal.  And it cannot be denied that things have changed for the people here, both in what they have observed and what they have experienced, since precautions have been eased and passenger load has increased.  Hard to ignore that level of self-reporting.

 

1 hour ago, voljeep said:

hover over my profile pic ... you should see an "ignore" to click at the bottom ...

But why would I want to ignore YOU!! 😁

Edited April 12, 2022 by JimmyVWine

[MissP22]

2 hours ago, pompeii said:

It's faulty logic to assume that because 80-90% of people in the theater were unmasked that means that 80-90% of passengers total chose not to wear masks.  After taking one look at the packed unmasked theater, we chose to forgo the shows.  Anecdotally, I spoke with numerous other passengers who felt the same way.  

Well please explain what it does mean. 

If I see a percentage not wearing a mask what else can I assume.

[dickinson]

1 hour ago, antsp said:

If passengers wanted to wear mask they would when it's not mandatory, about 10% do, so obviously they don't. As far as it being a cold, it's not, it's the flu. 

 

It isn’t the flu. 

[pompeii]

21 minutes ago, MissP22 said:

Well please explain what it does mean. 

If I see a percentage not wearing a mask what else can I assume.

You can assume that passengers who are not comfortable being in an enclosed crowded place where 90% of the people are unmasked are simply not likely to spend time in that place.    It means that most of the ones that do mask stay away from places crowded with those who don't.  It doesn''t reflect the total percentage of mask wearers on board, it just means that they aren't in the theater.  

 

With that said, on my recent cruise almost no one in the shows in the theater or the lounges wore masks.  But walking around the ship the percentage of mask wearers was more like one quarter to one-third compared to those who didn't. 

 

 

[cattman]

3 hours ago, jeftammy said:

I personally think it's the new variant that's the problem, as I've read it is spread even more easily than original Omicron.

We have an Alaska cruise/land tour on Majestic Princess scheduled in July and I'm thinking of canceling. I can't stand the thought of getting it on board and our party of 3 being confined to a quarantine cabin, effectively ruining our vacation and a huge amount of money wasted. Am I being too paranoid? We are still outside the cancellation penalty window.

We feel your pain. We just cancelled our May 4 Discovery cruise not just for fear of contracting Covid itself, but because of the many consequences of Covid that would make this so much less than a "vacation": the testing deadlines, risks of being quarantined either on the ship or in Canada for ten days, passing on shows to avoid crowding, etc. And say we contact the virus from travelling through busy airports, using the SkyTrain, etc. before we even get onboard? Too many compromises.. I think if we sail at all we'll stick with cruises that depart and return to our home ports in SoCal until regulations ease. 

 

MsSoCalCruiser, my most sincere wishes for a speedy recovery; your attitude is refreshing and admirable!

 

Edited April 12, 2022 by cattman

[brisalta]

16 hours ago, MsSoCalCruiser said:

We returned yesterday after two wonderful weeks on the Discovery Princess.  Last night my throat was a bit sore so I tested myself, negative. Today my throat is still sore, I have a headache, and I developed a cough. I tested tonight using two different brands of home test kits and they are both positive.  We only left the ship once in 14 days and that was to go to the left-handed store on the San Francisco pier. I was double masked unless I was in the dining room, Buffet, or outside socially distanced.  I used a disposable glove in the casino so I would not pick up any germs from the slot machines.  I HAVE COVID.  
 

I sent an email to my PVP listing all of the employees that I had close contact with.  There were at least 7 or 8.  I pray that no one else gets sick.

 

If you have any symptoms whatsoever you should probably test. You may want to test even if you do not have symptoms just so you don’t spread Covid to other people. I think it was too soon to drop the mask mandate, my opinion.  I wonder how many cases were on the Discovery Princess?

 

Princess medical is organized out of Holland America Group which is the division of CCL that Princess is part of.

You may want to send the same information that you sent to your PVP to guestmedical@hagroup .com

[Thrak]

We have come home from a cruise and both of us were grossly ill for almost two weeks. This was many years before anybody had heard of C19.  It as "the cruise crud" that many people have encountered. Cruising has never been safe as far as airborne disease. On one cruise - 7 days southbound after a land tour - the first day there were a couple of people coughing. By the end of the 7 days a huge percentage of passengers were coughing and loud sneezes could be heard. It only takes one or two people with a bug (of whatever type) to cause widespread sickness. Even though people were obviously sick nobody was quarantined.

[rad798]

5 hours ago, pompeii said:

The reason you've read that "most positives seem to be those that wore masks" is that those who went unmasked and caught Covid are not going to post it here.  They are going to keep quiet about their infection.  

 

Just off the Majestic, this past Saturday, and tested positive yesterday. I was one of the unmasked cruisers. The wife who is boosted does not have it.

The main problem I saw was people don't know how to cough or sneeze. We actually left shows because people beside us kept coughing with nothing over their mouth.

Have done 2 cruises last year with no issues. One masked (required, Europe cruise) and one unmasked.

For me, Covid is everywhere. If one is so afraid that you double mask, cruising is probably not the right thing for you right now.

 

This is my first time catching Covid. With my job, I am in hospital or clinics almost every day. I have had the opportunity but had been lucky so far.

Have not had the Flu in over 30 years but that is what this feels like. Started taking Paxlovid as soon as I tested positive and feel a lot better today. 

 

Will this change the way I think? NO! If I am going on a cruise, I don't want to wear a mask. If mandatory, of course I will, if it isn't mandatory I will not.

[Thrak]

1 hour ago, rad798 said:

Started taking Paxlovid as soon as I tested positive and feel a lot better today. 

 

Did you get this through your work?

[Mike45LC]

I hope you get over it quickly without any residual issues!  (My daughter still has not regained her sense of taste and smell.)  And I hope your friends and family avoid getting sick.  Be well!!

[Mike45LC]

I*'m gonna spray my keyboard with Lysol now, to keep it from infecting me!!

[Pacificsunflower]

22 hours ago, culvercitycruiser said:

Wow. So sorry to hear this. We cruised in the middle of the Omnicrom surge in January 2022. We were masked along with everyone else (N95), crew served in the buffet etc.  we made it through without getting sick.  
We leave on April 23rd and are a bit nervous. I wish they would go back to the crew serving in the buffet and more masking.  
We will be N95 masked and hand sanitizer. I just got my second booster. I hope that we stay healthy. 
I hope that you get well soon

We were on last week, and a friend saw someone in the elevator wearing a CCFD t shirt 💕

[rad798]

2 hours ago, Thrak said:

 

Did you get this through your work?

The doctor, at the clinic I tested at, prescribed it. He said he had heard very good results from it.

Then just picked it up at the local CVS.