NSWP Posted February 18, 2021 #3201 Share Posted February 18, 2021 16 minutes ago, GUT2407 said: I have real doubts, now I have been wrong before. My biggest doubt is that our international borders are unlikely to be open and that presents real problems getting ships and crew in and can the get enough passengers just Aussies. I’m happy to be wrong, but have serious doubts. I agree with you on the above points. Getting the ships and crew in from foreign lands still overwhelmed by Covid will require a bold decision from our government. In my opinion they will back off reopening our air and sea borders until 100% safe and that could be mid next year. All conjecture really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aus Traveller Posted February 18, 2021 #3202 Share Posted February 18, 2021 1 minute ago, NSWP said: I agree with you on the above points. Getting the ships and crew in from foreign lands still overwhelmed by Covid will require a bold decision from our government. In my opinion they will back off reopening our air and sea borders until 100% safe and that could be mid next year. All conjecture really. I am hoping the government will see that ships' crews are in quarantine on their way to Aust. If they have been vaccinated, and maybe even in quarantine before they board the ship maybe somewhere in Asia, then there isn't much chance of their passing the virus on. That is why I am hoping there might be cruises near the end of this year, but probably limited to Aussies and maybe starting with domestic cruises only. The next 'cab off the rank' would be cruises to NZ then the closer Pacific islands. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porky55 Posted February 18, 2021 #3203 Share Posted February 18, 2021 4 hours ago, Chiliburn said: As for sydney, will the P&O ships fit under the bridge? If not they will have till wait till July as they are dredging OPT. Golden Princess wasn’t able to go under the bridge, so Pacific Adventure won’t either . But all we need to do is wait for the full effects of Climate Change to happen and the water will drop enough so it will fit, or was it that the waters would rise, so no ship will fit under the bridge?? 🤔😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare OzKiwiJJ Posted February 18, 2021 Author #3204 Share Posted February 18, 2021 2 hours ago, Aus Traveller said: I am hoping the government will see that ships' crews are in quarantine on their way to Aust. If they have been vaccinated, and maybe even in quarantine before they board the ship maybe somewhere in Asia, then there isn't much chance of their passing the virus on. That is why I am hoping there might be cruises near the end of this year, but probably limited to Aussies and maybe starting with domestic cruises only. The next 'cab off the rank' would be cruises to NZ then the closer Pacific islands. The crew would have to quarantine and test negative before they joined the ship. If someone tested positive while the ship was repositioning to Australia the ship would not be allowed here I suspect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aus Traveller Posted February 18, 2021 #3205 Share Posted February 18, 2021 27 minutes ago, OzKiwiJJ said: The crew would have to quarantine and test negative before they joined the ship. If someone tested positive while the ship was repositioning to Australia the ship would not be allowed here I suspect. Agreed. After vaccination and quarantine before crew boarded the ship, there would be the additional quarantine period while the ship sailed to Aust. Our government would probably still want negative tests for all the crew after it arrived. Another safeguard would be minimal crew changes, with new crew quarantining (maybe in Aust after they fly in). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiliburn Posted February 18, 2021 #3206 Share Posted February 18, 2021 38 minutes ago, OzKiwiJJ said: The crew would have to quarantine and test negative before they joined the ship. If someone tested positive while the ship was repositioning to Australia the ship would not be allowed here I suspect. Singapore and Taiwan have been operating cruises for the last 3 months with out a major drama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare OzKiwiJJ Posted February 18, 2021 Author #3207 Share Posted February 18, 2021 45 minutes ago, Chiliburn said: Singapore and Taiwan have been operating cruises for the last 3 months with out a major drama. Yes, I know. I wish someone would drum that into the tiny brains of our politicians. I think I read somewhere that for one of the ships that is operating out of Singapore, possibly the RCI one, that the crew had to undergo quarantine onshore before joining the ship. Can't remember where I read it though, it was a while back, maybe when those cruises were just starting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiliburn Posted February 18, 2021 #3208 Share Posted February 18, 2021 8 minutes ago, OzKiwiJJ said: Yes, I know. I wish someone would drum that into the tiny brains of our politicians. I think I read somewhere that for one of the ships that is operating out of Singapore, possibly the RCI one, that the crew had to undergo quarantine onshore before joining the ship. Can't remember where I read it though, it was a while back, maybe when those cruises were just starting. You are preaching to the faithful. And people keep bringing up quarantine for the crew . Singapore have been doing it for 3-4 months without a incident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilikeanswers Posted February 18, 2021 #3209 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Interesting article on what the Singapore cruises are like: A Covid-Free Cruise Takes Planning, but the Strip Show Goes On Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare lyndarra Posted February 18, 2021 #3210 Share Posted February 18, 2021 29 minutes ago, ilikeanswers said: Interesting article on what the Singapore cruises are like: A Covid-Free Cruise Takes Planning, but the Strip Show Goes On This caught my eye. Not sure what to make of it. "Probably the biggest reason I felt safe on the cruise was that, when I boarded the ship, Singapore had gone seven straight days without any coronavirus cases." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiliburn Posted February 18, 2021 #3211 Share Posted February 18, 2021 16 minutes ago, lyndarra said: This caught my eye. Not sure what to make of it. "Probably the biggest reason I felt safe on the cruise was that, when I boarded the ship, Singapore had gone seven straight days without any coronavirus cases." And NSW has 28 days. There isn’t a virus in the community to catch. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare OzKiwiJJ Posted February 18, 2021 Author #3212 Share Posted February 18, 2021 3 hours ago, Chiliburn said: You are preaching to the faithful. And people keep bringing up quarantine for the crew . Singapore have been doing it for 3-4 months without a incident. Yes, as I said before, I know BUT did the crew quarantine on land before they joined the ship? Which is what I think I saw I saw in some cruise-related article a few weeks back. Think about what I am commenting on! Given some of the countries they come from that would probably be essential. If there was a crew outbreak then the ship would be a pariah and would not be allowed to continue sailing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiliburn Posted February 18, 2021 #3213 Share Posted February 18, 2021 9 hours ago, OzKiwiJJ said: Yes, as I said before, I know BUT did the crew quarantine on land before they joined the ship? Which is what I think I saw I saw in some cruise-related article a few weeks back. Think about what I am commenting on! Given some of the countries they come from that would probably be essential. If there was a crew outbreak then the ship would be a pariah and would not be allowed to continue sailing. The standard is to quarantine the crew 2 weeks on land before joining the ship. Sometime it’s more. As in a video of a sound and lightning engineer that joined Quantum. He quarantined in Miami for 2 weeks and got on a private charter with more crew ,that did the same and then flew to Singapore. After another 2 weeks quarantine in Singapore they got on the ship and started. So say Ovation and Pacific Explorer where given a permit to cruise in Sydney. The crew would have to quarantine for two weeks before joining the ship and then the repositioning which would be another 2 weeks. I would say once the ship is here ,the crew would have to quarantine locally for two weeks before joining the ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
getting older slowly Posted February 19, 2021 #3214 Share Posted February 19, 2021 I feel the issue with when cruising will start..... is you hear something positive adn it could be... then another lockdown..... vaccines oneday..... now the very average offering from Princess..... It would be nice to have something to look forward to.... but it is not looking this way Also the BH is having a milestone birthday in a month.... every other one was been a grand affair ( she deserve it, particularly being stuck we me lol ) This year is not looking good... can't really guarantee travel interstate.. all the places want to stay are booked or closed..... So looking like dinner at home....... then maybe something later once things stabilize..... we will see.. Don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare OzKiwiJJ Posted February 19, 2021 Author #3215 Share Posted February 19, 2021 12 hours ago, Chiliburn said: The standard is to quarantine the crew 2 weeks on land before joining the ship. Sometime it’s more. As in a video of a sound and lightning engineer that joined Quantum. He quarantined in Miami for 2 weeks and got on a private charter with more crew ,that did the same and then flew to Singapore. After another 2 weeks quarantine in Singapore they got on the ship and started. So say Ovation and Pacific Explorer where given a permit to cruise in Sydney. The crew would have to quarantine for two weeks before joining the ship and then the repositioning which would be another 2 weeks. I would say once the ship is here ,the crew would have to quarantine locally for two weeks before joining the ship. Thanks, that's about what I'd read a while back and what I expect will have to happen for all ships. It will be interesting to see where the ships embark their crews. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare OzKiwiJJ Posted February 19, 2021 Author #3216 Share Posted February 19, 2021 4 hours ago, getting older slowly said: I feel the issue with when cruising will start..... is you hear something positive adn it could be... then another lockdown..... vaccines oneday..... now the very average offering from Princess..... It would be nice to have something to look forward to.... but it is not looking this way Also the BH is having a milestone birthday in a month.... every other one was been a grand affair ( she deserve it, particularly being stuck we me lol ) This year is not looking good... can't really guarantee travel interstate.. all the places want to stay are booked or closed..... So looking like dinner at home....... then maybe something later once things stabilize..... we will see.. Don Don't give up hope, Don. I thought our SA trip was a gonna but it all came right at the last minute. We arrived in Hahndorf about an hour ago after three days driving from Sydney. We board the river cruise boat on Sunday evening. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porky55 Posted February 19, 2021 #3217 Share Posted February 19, 2021 29 minutes ago, OzKiwiJJ said: Don't give up hope, Don. I thought our SA trip was a gonna but it all came right at the last minute. We arrived in Hahndorf about an hour ago after three days driving from Sydney. We board the river cruise boat on Sunday evening. We want updates and photos please - living vicariously through you on this river cruise 🙏🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aus Traveller Posted February 19, 2021 #3218 Share Posted February 19, 2021 33 minutes ago, OzKiwiJJ said: Don't give up hope, Don. I thought our SA trip was a gonna but it all came right at the last minute. We arrived in Hahndorf about an hour ago after three days driving from Sydney. We board the river cruise boat on Sunday evening. Have a wonderful cruise. 😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare OzKiwiJJ Posted February 19, 2021 Author #3219 Share Posted February 19, 2021 47 minutes ago, Porky55 said: We want updates and photos please - living vicariously through you on this river cruise 🙏🤔 I'll probably start a thread tomorrow. Too tired tonight. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porky55 Posted February 19, 2021 #3220 Share Posted February 19, 2021 Just now, OzKiwiJJ said: I'll probably start a thread tomorrow. Too tired tonight. Thankyou and enjoy your cruise 😎 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
possum52 Posted February 19, 2021 #3221 Share Posted February 19, 2021 12 hours ago, OzKiwiJJ said: We arrived in Hahndorf about an hour ago after three days driving from Sydney. We board the river cruise boat on Sunday evening. Julie, I hope you have a wonderful cruise and holiday. Take care and fingers crossed you are able to travel without any problems. Leigh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSWP Posted February 19, 2021 #3222 Share Posted February 19, 2021 Have a good trip Julie, we need some on board foodie pics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare OzKiwiJJ Posted February 20, 2021 Author #3223 Share Posted February 20, 2021 4 hours ago, NSWP said: Have a good trip Julie, we need some on board foodie pics. OK, I'll try. I might depend on how many pre-dinner cocktails I have. 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
By The Bay Posted February 20, 2021 #3224 Share Posted February 20, 2021 The virus could still be in the community after fragments of the virus that causes COVID-19 have been found in sewage in Melbourne and Auburn in Sydney. 😷 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted February 20, 2021 #3225 Share Posted February 20, 2021 On 2/18/2021 at 11:50 AM, Chiliburn said: It has just come out of dry dock in Singapore. Dry docks are normally for work, not for provisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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