Rare orville99 Posted March 30, 2020 #1 Share Posted March 30, 2020 (edited) on PTZTV now, USNS steaming into New York harbor https://www.portnywebcam.com/ Edited March 30, 2020 by orville99 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yogimax Posted March 30, 2020 #2 Share Posted March 30, 2020 WE live in Queens, NYC the epicenter of the epicenter. While the Comfort is important, it was sad to see it being used as a prop for a photo op when it left Virginia. We need masks, tests and ventilators right now. Those who live in suburban and rural areas need to take this seriously, very seriously. Our today in New York is your tomorrow. Be smart, fellow cruisers, stay home, socially distance when it is necessary to go out and listen to those who share science not "feelings." 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare puppycanducruise Posted March 30, 2020 #3 Share Posted March 30, 2020 Thanks for posting the link. Stay home and stay healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zekekelso Posted March 30, 2020 #4 Share Posted March 30, 2020 There are folks here who will say, "any cruise is better than no cruise." Well this is one ship I"m hoping to avoid 🙂 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONECRUISER Posted March 30, 2020 #5 Share Posted March 30, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, zekekelso said: There are folks here who will say, "any cruise is better than no cruise." Well this is one ship I"m hoping to avoid 🙂 Though the Ship is there to serve the Emergency non-Corona patients... Thank you all that are sacrificing in our time of need. Edited March 30, 2020 by ONECRUISER 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare bobmacliberty Posted March 30, 2020 #6 Share Posted March 30, 2020 Seems smaller (fewer decks) than I thought it would be. Must be what happens when you look at Oasis Class ships a lot. Looking at Wikipedia, she has an impressive set of capabilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another_Critic Posted March 30, 2020 #7 Share Posted March 30, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, yogimax said: We need masks, tests and ventilators right now. Those who live in suburban and rural areas need to take this seriously, very seriously. Our today in New York is your tomorrow. Be smart, fellow cruisers, stay home, socially distance when it is necessary to go out and listen to those who share science not "feelings." New York City today! 😞 https://nypost.com/2020/03/30/crowds-ignore-social-distancing-rules-to-watch-usns-comfort/ Edited March 30, 2020 by Another_Critic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zekekelso Posted March 30, 2020 #8 Share Posted March 30, 2020 39 minutes ago, bobmacliberty said: Seems smaller (fewer decks) than I thought it would be. Must be what happens when you look at Oasis Class ships a lot. Looking at Wikipedia, she has an impressive set of capabilities. Makes me curious. If she were a RCL ship, what class would she be? Displacement: 69,360 tons (70,470 t)[1] Length: 894 ft (272 m) Beam: 105 ft 7 in (32.18 m) Draft: 33 ft (10 m) Propulsion: two boilers, two GE turbines, one shaft, 24,500 hp (18.3 MW) Speed: 17.5 knots (20.1 mph; 32.4 km/h) Capacity: 1000 patient beds Complement: 63 civilian, 956 naval hospital staff, 258 naval support staff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare bobmacliberty Posted March 30, 2020 #9 Share Posted March 30, 2020 19 minutes ago, zekekelso said: Makes me curious. If she were a RCL ship, what class would she be? Displacement: 69,360 tons (70,470 t)[1] Length: 894 ft (272 m) Beam: 105 ft 7 in (32.18 m) Draft: 33 ft (10 m) Propulsion: two boilers, two GE turbines, one shaft, 24,500 hp (18.3 MW) Speed: 17.5 knots (20.1 mph; 32.4 km/h) Capacity: 1000 patient beds Complement: 63 civilian, 956 naval hospital staff, 258 naval support staff By gross tonnage, she'd be similar to the Sovereign class. Empress is the only current (for now) Royal ship smaller than the USNS Comfort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted March 30, 2020 #10 Share Posted March 30, 2020 41 minutes ago, bobmacliberty said: By gross tonnage, she'd be similar to the Sovereign class. Empress is the only current (for now) Royal ship smaller than the USNS Comfort. She's very long, though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another_Critic Posted March 30, 2020 #11 Share Posted March 30, 2020 1 hour ago, zekekelso said: Makes me curious. If she were a RCL ship, what class would she be? Displacement: 69,360 tons (70,470 t)[1] Length: 894 ft (272 m) Beam: 105 ft 7 in (32.18 m) Draft: 33 ft (10 m) Propulsion: two boilers, two GE turbines, one shaft, 24,500 hp (18.3 MW) Speed: 17.5 knots (20.1 mph; 32.4 km/h) Capacity: 1000 patient beds Complement: 63 civilian, 956 naval hospital staff, 258 naval support staff Pretty close to Grandeur of the Seas. Tonnage: 73,817 GT 44,122 NT 7,000 DWT Length: 279 m (915 ft) Beam: 32.2 m (106 ft) (waterline) 36 m (118 ft) (maximum) Draught: 7.82 m (26 ft) Depth: 15.85 m (52 ft) Decks: 11 Installed power: 4 × MAN B&W 12V48/60 Propulsion: Diesel-electric; two shafts Fixed pitch propellers Speed: 22 kn (41 km/h; 25 mph) Capacity: 2,446 passengers Crew: 760 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grandeur_of_the_Seas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another_Critic Posted March 30, 2020 #12 Share Posted March 30, 2020 1 hour ago, bobmacliberty said: By gross tonnage, she'd be similar to the Sovereign class. Class and type: Sovereign-class cruise ship Tonnage: 73,941 GT Length: 880 ft (268.22 m) Beam: 106 ft (32.31 m) Draught: 28 ft (8.53 m) Decks: 13 passenger decks Speed: 22 knots (41 km/h; 25 mph) Capacity: 2,767 passengers Crew: 833 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davekathy Posted March 30, 2020 #13 Share Posted March 30, 2020 2 hours ago, Another_Critic said: New York City today! 😞 Agree!! 😷 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunshine3601 Posted March 31, 2020 #14 Share Posted March 31, 2020 1 hour ago, davekathy said: Agree!! 😷 That was horrible to see the crowds gathering for arrival of this ship. It's not like she is going anywhere anytime soon. They could take photos anytime to avoid crowds. Oh People!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThirstyCruiser Posted March 31, 2020 #15 Share Posted March 31, 2020 5 minutes ago, Sunshine3601 said: That was horrible to see the crowds gathering for arrival of this ship. It's not like she is going anywhere anytime soon. They could take photos anytime to avoid crowds. Oh People!!! Those pictures are the very definition of irony. Don't worry folks, some of you may get a much closer view of that ship in only a couple of weeks. Some countries (particularly the ones with SARS-in-2003 experience) have successfully flatten the curve. I can tell you one thing, staring down a pandemic they would not tolerate the nonsense displayed in those pictures. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONECRUISER Posted March 31, 2020 #16 Share Posted March 31, 2020 21 minutes ago, ThirstyCruiser said: Those pictures are the very definition of irony. Don't worry folks, some of you may get a much closer view of that ship in only a couple of weeks. Ship is there to take care of non-CV patients only. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcl410 Posted March 31, 2020 #17 Share Posted March 31, 2020 The USNS Comfort (and her sister Mercy) started life as oil tankers. They have very little superstructure. Most everything is inside the hull. The ships were built inthe middle 70's, and converted about 10 years later 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJSailors Posted March 31, 2020 #18 Share Posted March 31, 2020 Re NYtoday photos- yikes! What are people thinking,or are they thinking ??? If GovCuomo saw those photos, I am certain he will have something to say in his news updates tomorrow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AL3XCruise Posted March 31, 2020 #19 Share Posted March 31, 2020 6 hours ago, bobmacliberty said: By gross tonnage, she'd be similar to the Sovereign class. Empress is the only current (for now) Royal ship smaller than the USNS Comfort. Actually, she's around 55,000 gross tons, closest to Empress. 5 hours ago, Another_Critic said: Pretty close to Grandeur of the Seas. As said, closest to Empress in Gross Tonnage. In terms of displacement she's actually closer to a Voyager Class ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyCruiser Posted March 31, 2020 #20 Share Posted March 31, 2020 12 hours ago, yogimax said: WE live in Queens, NYC the epicenter of the epicenter. While the Comfort is important, it was sad to see it being used as a prop for a photo op when it left Virginia. We need masks, tests and ventilators right now. Those who live in suburban and rural areas need to take this seriously, very seriously. Our today in New York is your tomorrow. Be smart, fellow cruisers, stay home, socially distance when it is necessary to go out and listen to those who share science not "feelings." You see a huge American 1000 bed hospital ship arriving to your city to provide medical care, & you're sad & you only see it as a photo op? Hope you're the only One in NYC who feel that way. Do you know how many masks, tests & ventilators they're carrying onboard, along with 12 operating rooms, 20 surgical recovery rooms, 80 intensive care beds & 900+ beds. Pls be a little grateful to my fellow Shipmates & GO NAVY!!! 12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcfc424 Posted March 31, 2020 #21 Share Posted March 31, 2020 I read that they had to dredge the slip to ensure that the ship's draft was accommodated. I guess that's where the difference between gross tonnage and displacement come in, as I know Norwegian's largest ships berth there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted March 31, 2020 #22 Share Posted March 31, 2020 6 hours ago, AL3XCruise said: Actually, she's around 55,000 gross tons, closest to Empress. As said, closest to Empress in Gross Tonnage. In terms of displacement she's actually closer to a Voyager Class ship. Interesting, haven't been able to find gross tonnage on Comfort, but when using rough averages for tankers, using her deadweight of 89k, gives a GT of around 58k, so that's pretty close. Never seen a displacement figure on a cruise ship, that's generally not commonly published, since it's not real important. Where did you get this? And, again, using rough averages, based on the 89k deadweight, gives about a 108k displacement (full load), which I would think is way more than a Voyager. But then again, displacement on a tanker varies vastly between full load and light, and the weight of the additional superstructure and equipment in Comfort is not all that great, so I doubt she sits anywhere near the 64 foot draft that she had when a fully loaded tanker, though I'm sure there is some permanent concrete ballast installed for stability. And yes, everyone is confusing Gross Tonnage, displacement, and deadweight tonnage. Not all "tonnages" are the same. As for the size of the superstructure, the hospital is in the hull, and goes all the way down to the keel, unlike a cruise ship. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spookwife Posted March 31, 2020 #23 Share Posted March 31, 2020 the actual interior of COMFORT and MERCY is quite open. the lifts are wide enough to accommodate a gurney and entire support staff, the stairs are wide and shallow, even compared to a cruise ship. the only 'cramped' areas are actually the crew berthing, and even compared to a Cruiser or destroyer, are quite spacious and comfy. I'll ask Mr spook to provide pictures of COMFORT as he was deployed on her back in 2015. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judyrem Posted March 31, 2020 #24 Share Posted March 31, 2020 9 hours ago, NavyCruiser said: You see a huge American 1000 bed hospital ship arriving to your city to provide medical care, & you're sad & you only see it as a photo op? Hope you're the only One in NYC who feel that way. Do you know how many masks, tests & ventilators they're carrying onboard, along with 12 operating rooms, 20 surgical recovery rooms, 80 intensive care beds & 900+ beds. Pls be a little grateful to my fellow Shipmates & GO NAVY!!! My son in law just retired after 20 years in the Navy, they live in the Hampton Roads area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AL3XCruise Posted March 31, 2020 #25 Share Posted March 31, 2020 3 hours ago, chengkp75 said: Interesting, haven't been able to find gross tonnage on Comfort, but when using rough averages for tankers, using her deadweight of 89k, gives a GT of around 58k, so that's pretty close. Never seen a displacement figure on a cruise ship, that's generally not commonly published, since it's not real important. Where did you get this? And, again, using rough averages, based on the 89k deadweight, gives about a 108k displacement (full load), which I would think is way more than a Voyager. The Navy states Mercy Class vessels displace 69,360 tons. I'm sure that is less than when they were operating with a full load as tankers. There are several articles from when Voyager was introduced claiming a displacement of around 68,000 tons, though I can't comment on their accuracy. I've also seen 54K and 64K, but 68K is the most commonly cited number. Regardless of the exact number, it certainly shows that the relationship between displacement and GT varies dramatically with different ship designs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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