Half Capacity Sailing

[ninjacat123]

3 minutes ago, Butterbean1000 said:

I believe the ships that have a Cloud 9 Spa, you need to purchase a pass or have a spa cabin.

Gotcha.  I haven't sailed on those ships.....yet😎

[coevan]

2 hours ago, ninjacat123 said:

Gotcha.  I haven't sailed on those ships.....yet😎

 

 

ninja cat you're right as well. We have been on both the Dream and Magic. In the male and female gym restrooms respectively there is a sauna or steam room, obviously not co-ed 😵

[frito58]

So I see a lot of people talking about 50% sailing , I assume most of these Aug sailing have sold WAY over that . So who is getting kicked to curb to get it down to 50% ...asking for a friend 🙂

 

[lobster1313]

37 minutes ago, frito58 said:

So I see a lot of people talking about 50% sailing , I assume most of these Aug sailing have sold WAY over that . So who is getting kicked to curb to get it down to 50% ...asking for a friend 🙂

 

There were a lot of cancellations so even with the people rebooking from the already cancelled cruises at least the August 1st Magic cruise is under their proposed cap.  Carnival sent out upgrade emails last week but none of them were valid. My TA called when my upgrade offer didn't work. She was told that ship was at the proposed capacity and they're not allowed to change cabin assignments.  I didn't ask for details so I have no clue if it is 50% or something else.

[frito58]

6 minutes ago, regoodwinjr said:

There were a lot of cancellations so even with the people rebooking from the already cancelled cruises at least the August 1st Magic cruise is under their proposed cap.  Carnival sent out upgrade emails last week but none of them were valid. My TA called when my upgrade offer didn't work. She was told that ship was at the proposed capacity and they're not allowed to change cabin assignments.  I didn't ask for details so I have no clue if it is 50% or something else.

Well we are on a Sept cruise on Royal that I know is or was sold out . Its a Hawaii cruise . Doubt it goes but if it does not sure how they figure to get it down if that's the route they choose . 

[Markmom18]

11 hours ago, firefly333 said:

In the past 3 rounds of cancellations you were not allowed to keep the $600 obc and get a additional $600. I would bet if they have to cancel again, the same as true. I'm not a gambler but would take that bet.

 Probably confused some people, sorry. You guys aren’t interested in why I switched cruise dates, but I did that change.

 

The ONLY cruise Carnival cancelled was my March. I received $600.  They let me keep that extra $600.
 

IF Carnival cancels my September cruise, I was wondering if I would get an additional $600? 
 

I don’t know if they have a Policy in place for this ...
🛳🛳

 Bobbi 

Edited May 26, 2020 by Markmom18

[firefly333]

4 minutes ago, Markmom18 said:

 Probably confused some people, sorry. You guys aren’t interested in why I switched cruise dates, but I did that change.

 

The ONLY cruise Carnival cancelled was my March. I received $600.  They let me keep that extra $600.
 

IF Carnival cancels my September cruise, I was wondering if I would get an additional $600? 
 

I don’t know if they have a Policy in place for this ...
🛳🛳

 Bobbi 

Yes it's been covered in other posts. If you got $600 to rebook and then that one gets cancelled, the offer to book and get $600 is just that. You dont keep any of the old obc, unless it was part of the cruisefare.

 

In my case I wish I'd booked further out. I got the $600 plus there was a early saver bonus offer of $100 I'd be mad to lose. Right now I have $700 obc showing before applying stockholders obc. 

 

I'm assuming I'd lose that extra $100 obc incentive to book early saver. But yea I understood your question. ... you dont get 600 plus another 600. 

 

 

[Markmom18]

Firefly, thank you for replying.  It makes total sense to me. Otherwise, if every time Carnival pays $600 for each person for a cancelled Covid-19 Cruise .....  
 

 I want them to stay in business so I can cruise 🥰🥰

And our son can eventually return to his cruise career. 🤩
 

I also have had a price drop twice, so an additional $232, total of  $832!  Yes, this entire amount is on my new September cruise, I asked. Then I checked when my paperwork was sent over, then triple checked when I brought up my cruise online! Whew!

 

I’m hoping I can go to the casino near the end of the cruise, buy chips & play a ‘set’ amount of $ , then exchange Chips for cash to take home. I’ve done this before (winnings from my hubby).
 

I don’t spend more than $20 on the gambling (Roulette table) and I stretch out my time watching folks putting STACKS of pretty colored chips on the table!! 🤣🤣
 

I just do not win BIG.  Just don’t.  IF I WIN back my $20, I cash out.
Then play with that the next night.  
I look the entire experience as entertainment. 

 

This ⬆️⬆️  kind of gambling drives my hubby of 32 years 🤪🤪🤪!  
 

🛳🛳

 Bobbi 

Edited May 26, 2020 by Markmom18

[Honolulu Blue]

8 hours ago, frito58 said:

So I see a lot of people talking about 50% sailing , I assume most of these Aug sailing have sold WAY over that . So who is getting kicked to curb to get it down to 50% ...asking for a friend 🙂

 

 

I speculated about this in an earlier post.  To make a long story short, I don't know yet, but it could play out several different ways.  They could do it by booking date, by cabin type, by total paid per cabin, asking for volunteers, or (oh boy) by age.  In thinking about it more, they could also close off some decks entirely.

 

In another post, I talked about the effect of limitations on certain cruise profit centers.  I'll take a little time to discuss one that I missed - the auctions.  I really don't know how these work, so I could use some enlightenment here.  But if they work with auctioneers that are anything like the stereotypes you and I have seen on TV (i.e., they speak loud, fast, and nonstop), that's a problem.  This would seem to be a good opportunity for silent bidding.

[PhillyFan33579]

1 hour ago, Honolulu Blue said:

 

I speculated about this in an earlier post.  To make a long story short, I don't know yet, but it could play out several different ways.  They could do it by booking date, by cabin type, by total paid per cabin, asking for volunteers, or (oh boy) by age.  In thinking about it more, they could also close off some decks entirely.

 

In another post, I talked about the effect of limitations on certain cruise profit centers.  I'll take a little time to discuss one that I missed - the auctions.  I really don't know how these work, so I could use some enlightenment here.  But if they work with auctioneers that are anything like the stereotypes you and I have seen on TV (i.e., they speak loud, fast, and nonstop), that's a problem.  This would seem to be a good opportunity for silent bidding.

If this becomes an issue (overbooking) I think the fairest process would be to go by the date booked.  However, I can see Carnival implementing a process that gives priority to higher priced cabins like suites.  

[HxFx]

16 hours ago, ninjacat123 said:

The Carnival ships I have cruised on have steam rooms and sauna rooms that are accessible through the locker rooms on the way to the gym.  No charge.

Thanks, that's good to know. I haven't really explored the whole spa experience. Might have to do that next time. 🤞

[Butterbean1000]

I follow someone on other social media who always have reliable info.  He says all cruise lines are looking to sail at 20 to 30%, around 30 to 35 being the break even point.  Another person who is sailing on the Breeze August 1st says the ship is sailing at 60%. I'm waiting on her to tell me how she knows that. 

[ninjacat123]

3 minutes ago, Butterbean1000 said:

I follow someone on other social media who always have reliable info.  He says all cruise lines are looking to sail at 20 to 30%, around 30 to 35 being the break even point.  Another person who is sailing on the Breeze August 1st says the ship is sailing at 60%. I'm waiting on her to tell me how she knows that. 

Does that mean the passenger count and crew?  Reduced by 20-30% so Ecstacy which can take total 2056 passengers might be sailing with 1600 to 1400 passengers? Thx!

[Butterbean1000]

8 minutes ago, ninjacat123 said:

Does that mean the passenger count and crew?  Reduced by 20-30% so Ecstacy which can take total 2056 passengers might be sailing with 1600 to 1400 passengers? Thx!

Passengers 

[BlerkOne]

9 hours ago, PhillyFan33579 said:

If this becomes an issue (overbooking) I think the fairest process would be to go by the date booked.  However, I can see Carnival implementing a process that gives priority to higher priced cabins like suites.  

 

I don't think it is unusual for cruise lines to overbook, although this might be a record. Like airlines, they might just play let's make a deal. Unlike airlines, I'm not sure there are defined penalties if they deny someone boarding at the terminal due to no more cabins.

[ninjacat123]

15 minutes ago, BlerkOne said:

 

I don't think it is unusual for cruise lines to overbook, although this might be a record. Like airlines, they might just play let's make a deal. Unlike airlines, I'm not sure there are defined penalties if they deny someone boarding at the terminal due to no more cabins.

Isn't there a list that the cruise ship needs to provide to port authorities detailing passengers?  I thought that list was created at least a day in advance.  Passenger Manifest? 

Edited May 26, 2020 by ninjacat123

[Joe817]

8 minutes ago, ninjacat123 said:

Isn't there a list that the cruise ship needs to provide to port authorities detailing passengers?  I thought that list was created at least a day in advance.  I'm sure someone out there knows what I'm referencing...

You are thinking of the passenger manifest. Yes, Carnival gives it to someone, but not sure it's the port authorities. It might go to Homeland Security...I wouldn't think it would be CBP, but it could. I just don't know. 

[ninjacat123]

Just now, Joe817 said:

You are thinking of the passenger manifest. Yes, Carnival gives it to someone, but not sure it's the port authorities. It might go to Homeland Security...I wouldn't think it would be CBP, but it could. I just don't know. 

Hee hee!  I just thought of Passenger Manifest.Thanks Joe817!

[Joe817]

3 minutes ago, ninjacat123 said:

Hee hee!  I just thought of Passenger Manifest.Thanks Joe817!

I do that a lot! Ask a question, and as soon as the last wordsget out, I think of the answer!   Most welcome!

[chengkp75]

1 hour ago, ninjacat123 said:

Isn't there a list that the cruise ship needs to provide to port authorities detailing passengers?  I thought that list was created at least a day in advance.  Passenger Manifest? 

 

1 hour ago, Joe817 said:

You are thinking of the passenger manifest. Yes, Carnival gives it to someone, but not sure it's the port authorities. It might go to Homeland Security...I wouldn't think it would be CBP, but it could. I just don't know. 

The passenger manifest goes to CBP within 60 minutes of departure.  Of course it is CBP, because it is a list of people leaving the country, and since CBP includes immigration, that information goes to them.

[BlerkOne]

6 minutes ago, chengkp75 said:

 

The passenger manifest goes to CBP within 60 minutes of departure.  Of course it is CBP, because it is a list of people leaving the country, and since CBP includes immigration, that information goes to them.

 

and I believe it is 72 hours when returning

[rondalynn83]

On 5/23/2020 at 1:47 PM, Saint Greg said:

 

6 feet is too much.  That's not what's happening in restaurants and casinos. It's not going to happen on a ship. I could see them saying every other deck chair. Every other seat. Every other table. They aren't going to keep people 6 feet from each other. See the lines in a circle K where everyone is supposed to stand? they aren't 6 feet apart. More like 3 feet.

exactly and I truly would like to understand how at places at Lowes, where I have never consistently ever seen lines waiting to check out and now to enter the store is helping keep people sx feet apart. I am now closer to people at this store then I have ever been in the past, as people are being made to congregate not only outside the store, but inside in one big line starting at one spot until directed to next available check out .  Once on ship, I do not see how 6 feet can be enforced all over everywhere throughout cruise. 

[pc_load_letter]

22 minutes ago, rondalynn83 said:

exactly and I truly would like to understand how at places at Lowes, where I have never consistently ever seen lines waiting to check out and now to enter the store is helping keep people sx feet apart. I am now closer to people at this store then I have ever been in the past, as people are being made to congregate not only outside the store, but inside in one big line starting at one spot until directed to next available check out .  Once on ship, I do not see how 6 feet can be enforced all over everywhere throughout cruise. 

 

Yeah, my thoughts exactly. I am not a lawyer but play one on the internet. In municipalities, law enforcement can enforce these distancing rules by way of emergency mandates etc. But how, at sea, does a cruise line think they can enforce and order that applies to a city or county?

 

I guess they could get nasty and threaten you with banning you from future cruises but I don't think that would bode well for customer service. I am not sitting one or two deck chairs away from my wife when on the pool deck.

 

I truly believe we will have masks on for boarding but once out at sea, I think they simply ramp up the "washy washy" efforts and perhaps keep groups distanced when at the mdr. Buffets will be interesting as well. Who knows what they look like.

[BlerkOne]

What is wrong with people that law enforcement would need to enforce common sense guidance issued by experts? 

 

Las Vegas will be reopening shortly and should provide some insight as to how casinos and buffets will operate.

 

Masks may not be needed on open decks when underway. I think any airborne virus would be quickly diluted, but the experts will probably let us know in a few weeks.

[Saint Greg]

1 hour ago, pc_load_letter said:

 

Yeah, my thoughts exactly. I am not a lawyer but play one on the internet. In municipalities, law enforcement can enforce these distancing rules by way of emergency mandates etc. But how, at sea, does a cruise line think they can enforce and order that applies to a city or county?

 

I guess they could get nasty and threaten you with banning you from future cruises but I don't think that would bode well for customer service. I am not sitting one or two deck chairs away from my wife when on the pool deck.

 

I truly believe we will have masks on for boarding but once out at sea, I think they simply ramp up the "washy washy" efforts and perhaps keep groups distanced when at the mdr. Buffets will be interesting as well. Who knows what they look like.

 

My guess is the same way they were during my extra day on Panorama during the Covid19 scare....carnival employees serving all food in the buffet...even cereal and ice cream.

 

 

Edited May 27, 2020 by Saint Greg