Price increase

[Slyfox16]

With the new promotion that Princess has, does anyone find the prices going up for 2022 cruises?

[Valiamo]

I have been tracking for a 2022 cruise, and I feel they have been fairly stable. 

 

I have an older TA spreadsheet (HERE) with rack prices for American cruises for 2019 and 2020. I am seeing that prices per night are somewhat similar to the 2 years before.

 

With the current promotion it has been quite stable for the past 5 months (we booked in early December).  I was watching it before the sale, and while there was a slight increase when the current promotion came on it was not a large increase.   

 

Prices went up slightly in Mid January and they have held fairly stable since.    I was expecting the sale to come off last week, and have the price drop accordingly, but they extended it until the end of March.  

 

 

 

 

 

[kiwimum]

I have a Antarctica cruise booked and both legs have a 40-50% increase in port fees and taxes.   Cruise fare is comparable.

[JF - retired RRT]

10 hours ago, Valiamo said:

 I was expecting the sale to come off last week, and have the price drop accordingly, but they extended it until the end of March.  

So funny. The "sale" ends and the prices drop.
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[John99]

Vailamo – your spreadsheet is very detailed.  Great info.

I’m a spreadsheet type guy so I appreciate your efforts.

 

In the future, any new spreadsheets that included 2022?

John

[mcrcruiser]

We have cruises booked   for Feb 2022 ,Sept 2022 & April 2023   . At some point those prices will rise . As soon as this pandemic  is in the rear view mirror ,people will resume spending as there is pent up huge demand ,when that happened  inflation is not far behind .then prices for cruises must go up with inflation . Imo booking now for later dates is a very a smart move & can be a huge savings factor 

[40yearcruiser]

We booked cruises for March (Fiji) and April (Transpacific) from Sydney in October 2020 after our similar cruises were canceled. We opted to book the lowest price because we are not big drinkers and since we are elite we have enough wifi included. The difference in cost for the "Best Sale Ever" was not justified for us. This put us pretty much at the same level as our 2020 booking which was booked in Sept. 2018. The 14-day Fiji cruise was $40 pp more for 2022 in the same  mini-suite, but the 2020 cruise included $200 OBC per person and gratuities of $217 per person. This means that our cost to have to rebook 2 years later for the same cabin, same number of days, at the same time cost $754 more when we rebooked, and the fare has increased since then. The-27day Transpacific has reduced in fare twice since we booked it and we had it adjusted, but it has now increased again. We booked a balcony both times, but had received a free upgrade to a mini-suite on the 2020 cruise so unless we get lucky again we lost that perk. At the rate we currently have, the per day rate is almost equal to that of the 2020 cruise (this time it's 2 days shorter). Since these cruises are a year away I will be checking the rates regularly for any possible price drops or other promotions that might benefit us. Of course, we got FCC from our canceled cruises so that is wiping out part of the cost of the rebookings. 

[adstz]

We had a 10 day Alaska round trip from San Francisco booked for June 2020. My price was $1911 per person (taxes and fees included) for a mid-aft mini suite.

We rebooked for June 2021 which also was canceled.

We have now rebooked for June 2022. Same trip is now $3363 per person. This time does include the gratuities, wi fi, drinks package, and specialty dinner (Best Sale Ever) but that does not account for an increase of $1452 per person.

We are a group of 7 people in 3 cabins so that's a lot more money!

 

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[beg3yrs]

9 hours ago, JF - retired RRT said:

So funny. The "sale" ends and the prices drop.
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Yeah but did the add-ons go away? Always have to look at things like extra OBC disappearing and so on.

[dog]

My cruise went up $300/ cabin since this morning. 

[Slyfox16]

Thank you for the feedback. We were looking at the Enchanted for 9/22, and guess we will book it now.

Valiamo, great spreadsheet. Do you know if something like that exists for comparing cabin sizes on the Enchanted?

[beach_fever_4ever]

Our Jan 28, 2022 cruise from Fort Lauderdale to Los Angeles has increased $1700 for the 2 of us. The return leg to Fort Lauderdale has increased $900 for the 2 of us. We have never seen increases like this before.

[beg3yrs]

I can think of two factors at work here and there are probably many more:

• Supply and demand: As cabins get booked, supply goes down. Demand is increasing as we come out of COVID (and hopefully continue to do so). Generally the trend for years has been that the lowest prices occur right when the itineraries first become available for booking. There are ups and downs along the way but generally that's the case.
• Pressure from the investing community: There have been published reports that major stockholders as well as financial analysts have been pressuring the whole industry to raise prices to help the firms reduce their debt.

[wowzz]

1 hour ago, beg3yrs said:

I can think of two factors at work here and there are probably many more:

• Supply and demand: As cabins get booked, supply goes down. Demand is increasing as we come out of COVID (and hopefully continue to do so). Generally the trend for years has been that the lowest prices occur right when the itineraries first become available for booking. There are ups and downs along the way but generally that's the case.
• Pressure from the investing community: There have been published reports that major stockholders as well as financial analysts have been pressuring the whole industry to raise prices to help the firms reduce their debt.

You have missed out the impact of FCC. There is so much FCC floating around that cruise lines are putting up prices safe in the knowledge that those with FCC will pay the newly inflated prices. 

[ojaidenny]

I noticed my 9/2022 cruise to Alaska is still the same 

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Edited March 13, 2021 by ojaidenny

[susancruzs]

I have 8 cruises booked, 4 B2B's, sailing single, I wouldn't be going at prices I'm seeing now.  One is 14 days, others 26, 29.  I did book Australia/NZ recently, part was a casino rate.  In the past, I've ignored casino offers because they involved short cruises, Caribbean or Mexico, which I don't do.

[Valiamo]

On 3/12/2021 at 8:32 AM, John99 said:

Vailamo – your spreadsheet is very detailed.  Great info.

I’m a spreadsheet type guy so I appreciate your efforts.

 

In the future, any new spreadsheets that included 2022?

John

I wish I could take credit for the spreadsheet.    I have a TA friend that had a friend (and so on) and they sent me a copy.   I am sharing something that I had access to several years ago.

 

 

[Slyfox16]

When I just called and spoke with an agent,  the rate had gone up almost $600 per person from about 2 weeks ago. 

[cr8tiv1]

I just checked my 4 day cruise to San Diego.  Under "new" promotion, the fair has gone up $200 for a window suite.  That's $50 a day more.

[memoak]

On 3/13/2021 at 9:16 AM, susancruzs said:

I have 8 cruises booked, 4 B2B's, sailing single, I wouldn't be going at prices I'm seeing now.  One is 14 days, others 26, 29.  I did book Australia/NZ recently, part was a casino rate.  In the past, I've ignored casino offers because they involved short cruises, Caribbean or Mexico, which I don't do.

Free casino cruises are usually those short ones but if you a regular player you can get a discount on just about any cruise. We just a huge discount on a 18 day cruise in 2023

[cruzsnooze]

My cruises went up proportionate to the "SALE"