yerdua Posted April 30, 2021 #26 Share Posted April 30, 2021 53 minutes ago, ScottishMaid said: Did only Canadians get the survey? I'm in NC and also received it today. DH and I are currently booked for the 12 Day baltic explorer this August and are hoping HAL will cancel it and flip our booking and associated perks to next year. Final payment for my BB TA is may 10. This cruise covers 6 different countries. I can't imagine it will be anything close to the experience i had originally booked it it does sail. I mean, st Petersburg is the major draw for this cruise. Is Russia really going to be open? As of right now, all 6 counties are listed at level 4 do not travel by the state department. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruiserBruce Posted April 30, 2021 #27 Share Posted April 30, 2021 23 minutes ago, kazu said: Glad to hear it. I wish this Maritimer would get one. Aren't we Mariners? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare kazu Posted April 30, 2021 #28 Share Posted April 30, 2021 1 minute ago, CruiserBruce said: Aren't we Mariners? LOL Maritimers live on the East Coast of Canada with all the lovely weather and the storms, seas and ocean, or high tides. Not quite the same as Mariners 😉 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyCruiser Posted April 30, 2021 #29 Share Posted April 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, CruiserBruce said: Aren't we Mariners? No, we're Sailors. The original Uber drivers for Mariners... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliaschief Posted April 30, 2021 #30 Share Posted April 30, 2021 The survey asked us not to share or discuss our replies which tells me they want a honest general consensus. Would be interesting how many of us are booked for fall cruises. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YXU AC*SE Posted April 30, 2021 #31 Share Posted April 30, 2021 11 minutes ago, harkinmr said: ... but anything related to health and risk assessment of protocols should be based on science and medical guidance, not whether customers think it's a good idea. With respect, you're the only one that is suggesting this ? HAL has already laid out what it is proposing to do here: https://www.hollandamerica.com/en_US/news/coronavirus-travel-advisory/traveling-and-staying-healthy/covid-guest-protocols.html I do think it is a commercially relevant question to ask, is someone willing to fork over 10k on a vacation experience that may have [several] encumbrances attached to it, that some might find less than satisfactory, or particularly vacation-y. One interesting thing they did ask was consumer views wrt non-vaxxed under-16yos, and should they be permitted to sail with their parents. Scott. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare kazu Posted April 30, 2021 #32 Share Posted April 30, 2021 Just now, aliaschief said: The survey asked us not to share or discuss our replies which tells me they want a honest general consensus. Would be interesting how many of us are booked for fall cruises. We are. Why I would like a survey and hopefully a straight answer out of HAL down the road. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YXU AC*SE Posted April 30, 2021 #33 Share Posted April 30, 2021 1 minute ago, aliaschief said: Would be interesting how many of us are booked for fall cruises. I am. Rotterdam repositioning, and then a 4-day Caribbean industry preview loop B2B. Scott. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canadianbear Posted April 30, 2021 #34 Share Posted April 30, 2021 We are also booked on two cruises but funny that hubby got one but not me. Glad lots of others are getting them now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliaschief Posted April 30, 2021 #35 Share Posted April 30, 2021 1 minute ago, canadianbear said: We are also booked on two cruises but funny that hubby got one but not me. Glad lots of others are getting them now. We received only one survey but took survey together. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirkNC Posted April 30, 2021 #36 Share Posted April 30, 2021 I’m just shocked they don’t rely on the CC poll about vaccines......😎 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harkinmr Posted April 30, 2021 #37 Share Posted April 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, YXU AC*SE said: With respect, you're the only one that is suggesting this ? I do think it is a commercially relevant question to ask, is someone willing to fork over 10k on a vacation experience that may have [several] encumbrances attached to it, that some might find less than satisfactory, or particularly vacation-y. One interesting thing they did ask was consumer views wrt non-vaxxed under-16yos, and should they be permitted to sail with their parents. Scott. With all due respect, whether I am the only one (so far) who has suggested this is neither here nor there. I have a right to my opinion and to express it. Gauging customer reaction to health protocols may be useful generally, but it is a slippery slope. An example, is when Carnival Cruise Lines released Covid protocols a couple of months back and then retracted them almost immediately because there had been such vehement blowback online. No cruise line should be making a decision to implement a health protocol based on public opinion. You do things because they are the right thing to do for the safety and health of all of your passengers. It's that simple. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canadianbear Posted April 30, 2021 #38 Share Posted April 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, aliaschief said: We received only one survey but took survey together. It was addressed to him so I was hoping one would come to me too. But, his opinion is same as mine, lol! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliaschief Posted April 30, 2021 #39 Share Posted April 30, 2021 7 minutes ago, harkinmr said: With all due respect, whether I am the only one (so far) who has suggested this is neither here nor there. I have a right to my opinion and to express it. Gauging customer reaction to health protocols may be useful generally, but it is a slippery slope. An example, is when Carnival Cruise Lines released Covid protocols a couple of months back and then retracted them almost immediately because there had been such vehement blowback online. No cruise line should be making a decision to implement a health protocol based on public opinion. You do things because they are the right thing to do for the safety and health of all of your passengers. It's that simple. It could be many ports of call are demanding vaccinated pax’s and crew be fully vaccinated and they are surveying how many booked pax would still go. Just speculation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisegirl Posted April 30, 2021 #40 Share Posted April 30, 2021 I don’t see how HAL really has a choice about requiring vaccinations if they want to sail this year and maybe beyond. It would be nice if they would take a stand on this and let us know. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Roz Posted April 30, 2021 #41 Share Posted April 30, 2021 1 hour ago, LAFFNVEGAS said: That is exactly what I was thinking, of the CCers stating they received this, so far only those from Canada. I know I did not receive one. I live in TN, received it, filled it out and submitted it. I want vaccinated passengers and crew. Forget temperature checks and someone jamming a cotton swab up my nose. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Roz Posted April 30, 2021 #42 Share Posted April 30, 2021 47 minutes ago, aliaschief said: Would be interesting how many of us are booked for fall cruises. My next HAL cruise is March 2022. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare POA1 Posted April 30, 2021 #43 Share Posted April 30, 2021 Rec'd the survey. No cruise booked. Perhaps that's not the main criterion. (Yep, I knows me the singular form of criteria.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Roz Posted April 30, 2021 #44 Share Posted April 30, 2021 Given HAL's demographic, I would think they would have an easier time getting passengers onboard with a vaccination requirement than lines such as Carnival and Royal Caribbean. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Gail & Marty sailing away Posted April 30, 2021 #45 Share Posted April 30, 2021 1 hour ago, aliaschief said: The survey asked us not to share or discuss our replies which tells me they want a honest general consensus. Would be interesting how many of us are booked for fall cruises. We are on the same cruise as you and no Survey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Gail & Marty sailing away Posted April 30, 2021 #46 Share Posted April 30, 2021 5 minutes ago, Roz said: Given HAL's demographic, I would think they would have an easier time getting passengers onboard with a vaccination requirement than lines such as Carnival and Royal Caribbean. I agree with you.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliaschief Posted April 30, 2021 #47 Share Posted April 30, 2021 14 minutes ago, Gail & Marty sailing away said: We are on the same cruise as you and no Survey So most likely random survey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LAFFNVEGAS Posted April 30, 2021 #48 Share Posted April 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Roz said: I live in TN, received it, filled it out and submitted it. I want vaccinated passengers and crew. Forget temperature checks and someone jamming a cotton swab up my nose. That is exactly how I feel, if everyone is vaccinated they should not have to be constantly testing us for covid. The only way would be if in the case of my upcoming cruise if it sails from Amsterdam that they supply a covid test at the end of the cruise so we can board a plane back to the US if it is still required. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarefreeKaren Posted April 30, 2021 #49 Share Posted April 30, 2021 So happy to be asked for input as I received the survey today, too. My first cruise booked is late August (Europe) with final payment due August 6th. All I ask is that they make a decision soon.... go or no go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LAFFNVEGAS Posted April 30, 2021 #50 Share Posted April 30, 2021 1 hour ago, cruisegirl said: I don’t see how HAL really has a choice about requiring vaccinations if they want to sail this year and maybe beyond. It would be nice if they would take a stand on this and let us know. You are correct, and they will need to make this stand pretty darn soon. They either have to go through the cost of test cruises and the time it will take to do these test cruise or do like the other lines and make it mandatory that all be vaccinated to by pass the test cruises and go right to revenue sailings. CDC finally spelled it out for them. It is now in their court. Although I do not like that they are dragging their feet. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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