Teenagers causing damage to ship this week

[CruisingHogFan]

Currently on Odyssey. We have sailed Royal for 20 years and have done spring break cruises many times over the years with no issues. Yes, lots of kids but no problems other than crowds. The overall ship, shows, food, and service have been excellent!
 

BUT the clientele is changing. Lots of rude families and large groups of teenagers causing issues every day. Apparently several families were forced to disembark in Aruba (one with $12,000 damage bill) and others have been locked in their cabins. We have seen people pushing scooters and older passengers out of the way, verbally abusing the staff. Several elevators have had the glass shattered and are not working now, security cameras have been broken around the ship, and apparently the teen area has damage. I left the casino at 2 am and there are still groups of teens ignoring the security officers tonight and running around the ship.
 

It’s sad that parents let their kids behave this way. Royal should adopt a zero tolerance policy and immediately kick the entire family off the ship if their kids are causing issues like this. I understand teenagers will be teenagers (we have a 13 year old) but causing property damage and assaulting older guests is not right.

[joeyancho]

Disgusting 

[bonsai3s]

Vandalism and Assault are Crimes.

The Captain and RCCL should ban them for life.

[melbur]

Kids sail free..., please stop this promo.  I've never experienced so many kids in the months following Xmas break as I have this year. Misbehaving, rude and pushy. I had 2 young teens at 4am harass me for any cash I had on me cause they wanted to go back to the arcade and had no money left.

Hellooo, parents?

[ZoeyVictoria]

3 minutes ago, melbur said:

Kids sail free..., please stop this promo.  I've never experienced so many kids in the months following Xmas break as I have this year. Misbehaving, rude and pushy. I had 2 young teens at 4am harass me for any cash I had on me cause they wanted to go back to the arcade and had no money left.

Hellooo, parents?

We were also asked for money from a random young teenage girl.  She would have paid us back later 😂. When did kids start asking strangers for cash?  Just wrong in so many ways!

[superduper123]

I will be on the Vision in two weeks, and hope I don't experience anything like this. I have zero tolerance for rude and disrespectful behavior.

After booking, we realized the cruise falls over Easter, so although it's an older ship, and a longer itinerary, I expect there will be a good amount of families /kids/ spring-breakers. 

[nelblu]

55 minutes ago, melbur said:

Kids sail free..., please stop this promo.  I've never experienced so many kids in the months following Xmas break as I have this year. Misbehaving, rude and pushy. I had 2 young teens at 4am harass me for any cash I had on me cause they wanted to go back to the arcade and had no money left.

Hellooo, parents?

When available the promo stops at 12.

[mickeygirl78]

That is terrible! I hope Royal cracks down on this behavior and holds all accountable (parents too). 

[not-enough-cruising]

1 hour ago, melbur said:

Kids sail free..., please stop this promo.  I've never experienced so many kids in the months following Xmas break as I have this year. Misbehaving, rude and pushy. I had 2 young teens at 4am harass me for any cash I had on me cause they wanted to go back to the arcade and had no money left.

Hellooo, parents?

KSF does not encompass this age group

[CFLRetired]

I believe this is an exception vs the rule.  We've been on many cruises and have never experienced behavior like described above.   99% of the teens we've seen or encountered are respectful and are just having a good time.  YMMV

[A&L_Ont]

20 minutes ago, not-enough-cruising said:

KSF does not encompass this age group

And not usually on spring break. 

[not-enough-cruising]

Just now, A&L_Ont said:

And not usually on spring break. 

For sure not; excellent point

[lovesthebeach2]

So sad to hear this. That’s such a beautiful ship! I hope Royal isn’t ignoring this type of behavior.

It’s not good for their reputation.

[SE fla]

Perhaps we won’t be seeing some of these families on cruise ships again and they go after there money for damages. 

[molly361]

It's not just cruise ships.  New Smyrna Beach just last week voted to start a curfew of 11pm for those under 18 to be out without a parent or guardian  Sad

Edited March 18, 2023 by molly361

[brevardcruiser]

Currently on odyssey too.  We have been on over a dozen RCL cruises and have never seen this.  We have kids from 10-16 on board as well.  The ship is beautiful and never felt crowded.  The teen are out of control.  Talking to security they said last week was worse.  Yes several broken elevator screens, cameras, etc. The teen club VR wasn’t opened all week so probably last week something week.  also KSF didn’t apply for these spring break weeks….hopefully they get charged for the repairs.

[Itchy&Scratchy]

2 hours ago, melbur said:

Kids sail free..., please stop this promo.

what the heck? It's only for kids 12 and under. KSF has nothing to do with the hoards of teenagers.

 

Plus, it's so dang limited that it's extremely, and I mean it, extremely difficult to apply it to any cruise that working parents with kids in school could possibly go on. KSF definitely doesn't apply to any school breaks.

Edited March 18, 2023 by Itchy&Scratchy

[SE fla]

Parents need to start being parents if their family is disturbing the quality of others on there cruise, damaging property and putting elders at risk.

 

If the ship is put in some time of an emergency situation you just can’t drive away and go home. 

[robmtx]

6 hours ago, CruisingHogFan said:

It’s sad that parents let their kids behave this way.

 

Unfortunately this is parenting in 2023. It's not to say all parents are raising their children this way, but I feel like it's flipped to that of the majority of parents are more hands-off than ever before. This has resulted in a lack of discipline and social etiquette amongst teens. It's not just on cruise ships, but at the malls, parks, movie theaters, restaurants.. There's no real consequences for their actions, and they learn behavioral conditioning from Tik Tok and YouTube.

 

At a rec league hoops game for our 14 year old last weekend a parent in front of us gives their 5 year old child the Ipad to watch some cartoon at loud volume, because the mom doesn't want to parent their child? I watched the child get rewarded for misbehaving. This child is in training for an Odyssey cruise 10 years from now!

The excuse is always the same, "Well, would you rather have my child kicking and screaming because they don't want to be there?" -- sigh, no accountability

[rimmit]

Part of it is also the shifting demographics

 

When talking with the security onboard RCI, they state they love working RCI than their previous post on CCL as things are so much calmer and significantly less theft, fighting, and and other onboard incidents.  They stated CCL ships came with a brig while RCI ships did not.

 

I have noticed more and more incidents of vandalism on ships over the last 5-6 years.  I wonder if RCI is now considering a brig in their upcoming ships or maybe they have already converted space and installed them in some refits.

Edited March 18, 2023 by rimmit

[SE fla]

If the parents  know there kid acts out and has no boundaries keep them at home until there lessons in life are learned. This is the parents job not the kid 

[CruisingHogFan]

19 minutes ago, rimmit said:

Part of it is also the shifting demographics

 

When talking with the security onboard RCI, they state they love working RCI than their previous post on CCL as things are so much calmer and significantly less theft, fighting, and and other onboard incidents.  They stated CCL ships came with a brig while RCI ships did not.

 

I have noticed more and more incidents of vandalism on ships over the last 5-6 years.  I wonder if RCI is now considering a brig in their upcoming ships or maybe they have already converted space and installed them in some refits.

That is my thought. There just isn’t a nice way of saying it…. You can just tell there’s more of a shift of the type of people now sailing on Royal.
 

I wish they would do away with the promos and increase prices well above Carnival. This is the first cruise in years we aren’t booking another cruise onboard. We have Allure and Icon already booked for later this year and next. If we have the experience of this cruise we will be looking a Celebrity as a step up.

[DriftinAlong]

55 minutes ago, Itchy&Scratchy said:

what the heck? It's only for kids 12 and under. KSF has nothing to do with the hoards of teenagers.

 

Plus, it's so dang limited that it's extremely, and I mean it, extremely difficult to apply it to any cruise that working parents with kids in school could possibly go on. KSF definitely doesn't apply to any school breaks.

I agree with everyone here that the behavior is terrible and parents/families should be held accountable.   Just wanted to comment: I am sailing for spring break, and we booked Kids Sail Free - its possible! (2 working parents, with 3 kids, in school, traveling during Chicago's Spring Break.)

[A&L_Ont]

 

Let’s be honest, other than the teen club it is hard to determine who caused the damages. 
 

That said, whoever is found to cause the damages should be thrown off no matter their age. 
 

[twinmommy08]

3 hours ago, melbur said:

Kids sail free..., please stop this promo.  I've never experienced so many kids in the months following Xmas break as I have this year. Misbehaving, rude and pushy. I had 2 young teens at 4am harass me for any cash I had on me cause they wanted to go back to the arcade and had no money left.

Hellooo, parents?

Kids 13 and over do not qualify for the promo. It’s full adult rate even on shore excursions.