CruisingHogFan Posted March 18, 2023 #1 Share Posted March 18, 2023 Currently on Odyssey. We have sailed Royal for 20 years and have done spring break cruises many times over the years with no issues. Yes, lots of kids but no problems other than crowds. The overall ship, shows, food, and service have been excellent! BUT the clientele is changing. Lots of rude families and large groups of teenagers causing issues every day. Apparently several families were forced to disembark in Aruba (one with $12,000 damage bill) and others have been locked in their cabins. We have seen people pushing scooters and older passengers out of the way, verbally abusing the staff. Several elevators have had the glass shattered and are not working now, security cameras have been broken around the ship, and apparently the teen area has damage. I left the casino at 2 am and there are still groups of teens ignoring the security officers tonight and running around the ship. It’s sad that parents let their kids behave this way. Royal should adopt a zero tolerance policy and immediately kick the entire family off the ship if their kids are causing issues like this. I understand teenagers will be teenagers (we have a 13 year old) but causing property damage and assaulting older guests is not right. 45 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyancho Posted March 18, 2023 #2 Share Posted March 18, 2023 Disgusting 10 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonsai3s Posted March 18, 2023 #3 Share Posted March 18, 2023 Vandalism and Assault are Crimes. The Captain and RCCL should ban them for life. 27 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melbur Posted March 18, 2023 #4 Share Posted March 18, 2023 Kids sail free..., please stop this promo. I've never experienced so many kids in the months following Xmas break as I have this year. Misbehaving, rude and pushy. I had 2 young teens at 4am harass me for any cash I had on me cause they wanted to go back to the arcade and had no money left. Hellooo, parents? 29 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoeyVictoria Posted March 18, 2023 #5 Share Posted March 18, 2023 3 minutes ago, melbur said: Kids sail free..., please stop this promo. I've never experienced so many kids in the months following Xmas break as I have this year. Misbehaving, rude and pushy. I had 2 young teens at 4am harass me for any cash I had on me cause they wanted to go back to the arcade and had no money left. Hellooo, parents? We were also asked for money from a random young teenage girl. She would have paid us back later 😂. When did kids start asking strangers for cash? Just wrong in so many ways! 25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superduper123 Posted March 18, 2023 #6 Share Posted March 18, 2023 I will be on the Vision in two weeks, and hope I don't experience anything like this. I have zero tolerance for rude and disrespectful behavior. After booking, we realized the cruise falls over Easter, so although it's an older ship, and a longer itinerary, I expect there will be a good amount of families /kids/ spring-breakers. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nelblu Posted March 18, 2023 #7 Share Posted March 18, 2023 55 minutes ago, melbur said: Kids sail free..., please stop this promo. I've never experienced so many kids in the months following Xmas break as I have this year. Misbehaving, rude and pushy. I had 2 young teens at 4am harass me for any cash I had on me cause they wanted to go back to the arcade and had no money left. Hellooo, parents? When available the promo stops at 12. 14 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickeygirl78 Posted March 18, 2023 #8 Share Posted March 18, 2023 That is terrible! I hope Royal cracks down on this behavior and holds all accountable (parents too). 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
not-enough-cruising Posted March 18, 2023 #9 Share Posted March 18, 2023 1 hour ago, melbur said: Kids sail free..., please stop this promo. I've never experienced so many kids in the months following Xmas break as I have this year. Misbehaving, rude and pushy. I had 2 young teens at 4am harass me for any cash I had on me cause they wanted to go back to the arcade and had no money left. Hellooo, parents? KSF does not encompass this age group 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFLRetired Posted March 18, 2023 #10 Share Posted March 18, 2023 I believe this is an exception vs the rule. We've been on many cruises and have never experienced behavior like described above. 99% of the teens we've seen or encountered are respectful and are just having a good time. YMMV 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare A&L_Ont Posted March 18, 2023 #11 Share Posted March 18, 2023 20 minutes ago, not-enough-cruising said: KSF does not encompass this age group And not usually on spring break. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
not-enough-cruising Posted March 18, 2023 #12 Share Posted March 18, 2023 Just now, A&L_Ont said: And not usually on spring break. For sure not; excellent point 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovesthebeach2 Posted March 18, 2023 #13 Share Posted March 18, 2023 So sad to hear this. That’s such a beautiful ship! I hope Royal isn’t ignoring this type of behavior. It’s not good for their reputation. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SE fla Posted March 18, 2023 #14 Share Posted March 18, 2023 Perhaps we won’t be seeing some of these families on cruise ships again and they go after there money for damages. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molly361 Posted March 18, 2023 #15 Share Posted March 18, 2023 (edited) It's not just cruise ships. New Smyrna Beach just last week voted to start a curfew of 11pm for those under 18 to be out without a parent or guardian Sad Edited March 18, 2023 by molly361 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brevardcruiser Posted March 18, 2023 #16 Share Posted March 18, 2023 Currently on odyssey too. We have been on over a dozen RCL cruises and have never seen this. We have kids from 10-16 on board as well. The ship is beautiful and never felt crowded. The teen are out of control. Talking to security they said last week was worse. Yes several broken elevator screens, cameras, etc. The teen club VR wasn’t opened all week so probably last week something week. also KSF didn’t apply for these spring break weeks….hopefully they get charged for the repairs. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Itchy&Scratchy Posted March 18, 2023 #17 Share Posted March 18, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, melbur said: Kids sail free..., please stop this promo. what the heck? It's only for kids 12 and under. KSF has nothing to do with the hoards of teenagers. Plus, it's so dang limited that it's extremely, and I mean it, extremely difficult to apply it to any cruise that working parents with kids in school could possibly go on. KSF definitely doesn't apply to any school breaks. Edited March 18, 2023 by Itchy&Scratchy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SE fla Posted March 18, 2023 #18 Share Posted March 18, 2023 Parents need to start being parents if their family is disturbing the quality of others on there cruise, damaging property and putting elders at risk. If the ship is put in some time of an emergency situation you just can’t drive away and go home. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmtx Posted March 18, 2023 #19 Share Posted March 18, 2023 6 hours ago, CruisingHogFan said: It’s sad that parents let their kids behave this way. Unfortunately this is parenting in 2023. It's not to say all parents are raising their children this way, but I feel like it's flipped to that of the majority of parents are more hands-off than ever before. This has resulted in a lack of discipline and social etiquette amongst teens. It's not just on cruise ships, but at the malls, parks, movie theaters, restaurants.. There's no real consequences for their actions, and they learn behavioral conditioning from Tik Tok and YouTube. At a rec league hoops game for our 14 year old last weekend a parent in front of us gives their 5 year old child the Ipad to watch some cartoon at loud volume, because the mom doesn't want to parent their child? I watched the child get rewarded for misbehaving. This child is in training for an Odyssey cruise 10 years from now! The excuse is always the same, "Well, would you rather have my child kicking and screaming because they don't want to be there?" -- sigh, no accountability 32 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare rimmit Posted March 18, 2023 #20 Share Posted March 18, 2023 (edited) Part of it is also the shifting demographics When talking with the security onboard RCI, they state they love working RCI than their previous post on CCL as things are so much calmer and significantly less theft, fighting, and and other onboard incidents. They stated CCL ships came with a brig while RCI ships did not. I have noticed more and more incidents of vandalism on ships over the last 5-6 years. I wonder if RCI is now considering a brig in their upcoming ships or maybe they have already converted space and installed them in some refits. Edited March 18, 2023 by rimmit 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SE fla Posted March 18, 2023 #21 Share Posted March 18, 2023 If the parents know there kid acts out and has no boundaries keep them at home until there lessons in life are learned. This is the parents job not the kid 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruisingHogFan Posted March 18, 2023 Author #22 Share Posted March 18, 2023 19 minutes ago, rimmit said: Part of it is also the shifting demographics When talking with the security onboard RCI, they state they love working RCI than their previous post on CCL as things are so much calmer and significantly less theft, fighting, and and other onboard incidents. They stated CCL ships came with a brig while RCI ships did not. I have noticed more and more incidents of vandalism on ships over the last 5-6 years. I wonder if RCI is now considering a brig in their upcoming ships or maybe they have already converted space and installed them in some refits. That is my thought. There just isn’t a nice way of saying it…. You can just tell there’s more of a shift of the type of people now sailing on Royal. I wish they would do away with the promos and increase prices well above Carnival. This is the first cruise in years we aren’t booking another cruise onboard. We have Allure and Icon already booked for later this year and next. If we have the experience of this cruise we will be looking a Celebrity as a step up. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftinAlong Posted March 18, 2023 #23 Share Posted March 18, 2023 55 minutes ago, Itchy&Scratchy said: what the heck? It's only for kids 12 and under. KSF has nothing to do with the hoards of teenagers. Plus, it's so dang limited that it's extremely, and I mean it, extremely difficult to apply it to any cruise that working parents with kids in school could possibly go on. KSF definitely doesn't apply to any school breaks. I agree with everyone here that the behavior is terrible and parents/families should be held accountable. Just wanted to comment: I am sailing for spring break, and we booked Kids Sail Free - its possible! (2 working parents, with 3 kids, in school, traveling during Chicago's Spring Break.) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare A&L_Ont Posted March 18, 2023 #24 Share Posted March 18, 2023 Let’s be honest, other than the teen club it is hard to determine who caused the damages. That said, whoever is found to cause the damages should be thrown off no matter their age. 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twinmommy08 Posted March 18, 2023 #25 Share Posted March 18, 2023 3 hours ago, melbur said: Kids sail free..., please stop this promo. I've never experienced so many kids in the months following Xmas break as I have this year. Misbehaving, rude and pushy. I had 2 young teens at 4am harass me for any cash I had on me cause they wanted to go back to the arcade and had no money left. Hellooo, parents? Kids 13 and over do not qualify for the promo. It’s full adult rate even on shore excursions. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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