Is playing music or watching videos in the Solarium without headphones bad etiquette?

[RTShaker]

9 minutes ago, Georgia_Peaches said:

I thought about it…I really did. Genuinely curious, what would you have said?  I think this is where I’m stumped. 

I guess it depends on your relative sizes🤣

[RichYak]

3 hours ago, RichYak said:

Pretty close vote so far 😇

Still neck and neck

[manmachine]

38 minutes ago, Georgia_Peaches said:

I thought about it…I really did. Genuinely curious, what would you have said?  I think this is where I’m stumped. 

Sometimes you just have to wade in, no matter what.  I was at the World Class Bar enjoying a quiet drink and talking with the terrific bartender, when I heard the awful, tinny, horrible sound of bad music playing on a cell phone.  The owner of the phone— let’s call him Beevis— walked up, talking loudly with his buddy Butthead— and together they were taking up a lot more space than their purely physical selves.

 

Now I love music.  And I can tolerate at least almost anyone and smile while doing it.  But anyone who does what these guys were doing to music— well, I hate ‘em.

 

But, since I am a peace loving person, I took my drink and myself out and over to the Casino bar.  Left B&B to themselves.

 

The bartender happened to have the same McCallan I was drinking so all was good with drink #2… until… wait… ah, crap… yes, you know what happened.

 

Beevis and Butthead entered the space, still

sporting their own soundtrack of tinned beats.

 

I stayed quiet a bit… but I could feel the blood pressure rising.

 

Finally, I asked the bartender— really more stated to the bartender:

 

“You know, I am guessing playing music like that is against the rules.  But I also guess that if you said something to them they could wind up causing problems for you.  And even if I were to bring someone on the management team over, that might be a problem because the manager might think you told me to bring them over to deal with it and get aggravacted.”

 

The bartender was a little wide-eyed, but also smiled just a bit, too, and said, “a delicate situation, yes…”

 

I said, “But not for me.  Not anymore…”

 

I walked over to where the phone was tinnily bleating away its nasty little canned beats, leaned over and just stared at it.  It wasn’t long until Beevis saw me.

 

”What’s your problem, bro?”

 

”No problem,” I said.  “I am just wondering who the *ss*ole is playing their phone like this.”

 

Beevis said, “That’s MY phone!”

 

”Ahhh!” I said.  “So now we both know who the *ss*ole is,” and just stared at him.

 

I admit it.  I was pissed.  But acting very polite.  Part of me was almost hoping he would hit me.  

 

Instead, after a few seconds of staring, he turned the sound off.

 

”Hey, thanks!” I said and walked back to my seat.

 

”You’re MacCallan, Mr. Scott,” said the bartender.  I noticed it was a double.  
 

Nice.

 

The purveyor of tinny beats left shortly thereafter, never to be heard from again.  A couple of folks around me thanked me.

 

And the next time I turned back to the bar I had another double MacAllan.  Wheee! I was about four drinks past where I intended to be.

 

But all good.  It wound up being a peaceful time before dinner after all.

 

Oh, one more thing.  I finally finished the second double (sixth drink) and as I was leaving the bartender called out, “Oh, Mr. Scott!  Don’t forget your MacCallan!”

 

Huh?  

 

Sure enough, there on the bar was yet another double MacCallan.  I remember this story very well.  What I had for dinner?  Not so much.

 

 

[NMTraveller]

1 hour ago, Georgia_Peaches said:

I thought about it…I really did. Genuinely curious, what would you have said?  I think this is where I’m stumped. 

You should not have to say anything.  The Celebrity staff should have taken care of it...

[Dancing Shoes]

23 minutes ago, NMTraveller said:

You should not have to say anything.  The Celebrity staff should have taken care of it...

Yeah right.....ha ha ha.  When we were on the Apex in April to the Caribbean there was this solo guy out by the pool with one of those portable blue tooth speakers.  I mentioned it to staff that he should use ear buds.  We were walking by on our way somewhere.  

Guess what, he was back the next morning!!  

[Stem to Stern]

1 hour ago, Georgia_Peaches said:

I thought about it…I really did. Genuinely curious, what would you have said?  I think this is where I’m stumped. 

In my best nice-person voice while smiling ear to ear….

Option A:

”I am so sorry to bother you.  May I please ask you for a teensy-weensy small favor?  Would you mind lowering the volume on your phone slightly?  I suffer terribly from migraine headaches.”

Option B:

”Excuse me.  I am so sorry to disturb you, but I noticed you are not using headphones while you are using your personal music device.  Would you like to borrow a pair of mine?  I have an extra pair that I would be more than willing to loan you.”

[NMTraveller]

1 hour ago, Dancing Shoes said:

Yeah right.....ha ha ha.  When we were on the Apex in April to the Caribbean there was this solo guy out by the pool with one of those portable blue tooth speakers.  I mentioned it to staff that he should use ear buds.  We were walking by on our way somewhere.  

Guess what, he was back the next morning!!  

And yet there are people who think that Celebrity will properly police the vapers and smokers.  LOL

[JeanieC,Aston]

7 hours ago, RichYak said:

Still neck and neck

I just voted it’s fine just to stop the other person voting it’s fine from being lonely.😏

 

A meaningless poll when the result is know beforehand.

JC

Edited July 10, 2023 by JeanieC,Aston

[Georgia_Peaches]

1 hour ago, JeanieC,Aston said:

meaningless poll when the result is know beforehand

Yep, I definitely knew the result I wanted but wasn’t sure if it was just me or if others felt the same way. Though meaningless to you, I Thank you for voting. 

[Georgia_Peaches]

8 hours ago, Stem to Stern said:

Excuse me.  I am so sorry to disturb you, but I noticed you are not using headphones while you are using your personal music device.  Would you like to borrow a pair of mine?  I have an extra pair that I would be more than willing to loan you.”

This is it!  If ever faced with this again, I’m totally using this!  Thank you!

[poffles]

13 hours ago, Georgia_Peaches said:

The music being played wasn't necessarily offensive.  It was just distracting and loud when juxtaposed against the mostly quite atmosphere of the Solarium at that time.  And I agree with @emmas gran  in that it's no different than loud video chats with family.  As for way too common, this was our first encounter with such a thing in now 10 completed cruises onboard Celebrity.  I really fear I am becoming less tolerant of those around me now that I am maturing in years.  

 

I guess I've always been old all my life because my tolerance level for stuff like this has always been low.  I really mind someone unnecessarily playing music/videos out loud, or having video calls on speaker phone.  Yes it can be comparable to what might be heard from live chatter but there is no reason to not consider others  nearby when playing music in a closed space and using a headset. I have not necessarily noticed it on Celebrity like that but in general this practice is definitely more prevalent.

 

I think the quieter a venue is the more intruding this would feel so that would definitely make a difference and the Solarium is often a quieter area.  Sign of the times.

 

 

 

[Pinboy]

Here's the "real " answer:

" Hey, hey, yes YOU, You goof --- Turn your f---- music down  before I send that guy over there, yes, the big guy with the gorgeous blond you've been staring at for the last hour listening to that crap " !!

Now---- What do we/you about loudmouths sitting nearby in the dining room ? 

 

 

[twins_to_alaska]

My flight last week the person in front of me was playing his device without headphones... happily Southwest flight attendant told him he he to turn volume off or put headphones on.

[dlh015]

1 hour ago, twins_to_alaska said:

My flight last week the person in front of me was playing his device without headphones... happily Southwest flight attendant told him he he to turn volume off or put headphones on.

I just can't fathom what rationale these sort of people come up with in their heads...maybe some overwhelming need to be noticed?? Some sort of backward thinking that this anti-social behavior is a way of being social?? "Hey, everybody is going to dig my music (or whatever) and think I'm really cool!"

[weregoingcruising]

1 hour ago, Pinboy said:

Here's the "real " answer:

" Hey, hey, yes YOU, You goof --- Turn your f---- music down  before I send that guy over there, yes, the big guy with the gorgeous blond you've been staring at for the last hour listening to that crap " !!

Now---- What do we/you about loudmouths sitting nearby in the dining room ? 

 

 

Stay away from cude foul mouthed people in the dining room and solarium.

Edited July 10, 2023 by weregoingcruising
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[Z'Loth]

I carry a set of cheap Tozo Ear Buds just so that I don't bother anyone. 

[phoenix_dream]

I also hate when people do that on their balconies, especially when they know we are sitting on ours right next to them.  Loud phone calls and video chats, loud music.  Sometimes it's a family with children who let their kids make all kinds of noise - but it certainly can be anyone of any age!  

[Andrewgary]

I'm guessing the three people who voted No did it for shitz and giggles.

[Mike981]

21 hours ago, Georgia_Peaches said:

I really fear I am becoming less tolerant of those around me now that I am maturing in years.  

 

Just know you have company.

 

I love that my current hearing aids have Bluetooth and I can listen to music/podcasts/videos/phone calls with them in.

[phoenix_dream]

21 hours ago, Georgia_Peaches said:

The music being played wasn't necessarily offensive.  It was just distracting and loud when juxtaposed against the mostly quite atmosphere of the Solarium at that time.  And I agree with @emmas gran  in that it's no different than loud video chats with family.  As for way too common, this was our first encounter with such a thing in now 10 completed cruises onboard Celebrity.  I really fear I am becoming less tolerant of those around me now that I am maturing in years.  

Honestly, I don't think it's a matter of becoming less tolerant, although as I age I am less shy about speaking up for myself - I think it's more that than necessarily being less tolerant.  I think there has been a significant drop in common courtesy and manners.  This was happening before, but for whatever reason I think the Covid shutdown has resulted in a definite change in human behavior and often not in a good way.  It's like - I had to suffer through Covid and it's consequences so now I deserve to do what I want, when I want, and the heck with everyone else.  All one has to do is drive around the neighborhood to see this evidenced in driving behavior.  Never in my (long) life have I seen so many careless, reckless, aggressive, inconsiderate, illegal driving behavior as I see since Covid.  I see it also virtually everywhere I go - in my home area or when traveling.  People are more rude, act more entitled, and on and on.  It's disheartening.

[NutsAboutGolf]

I'm far more interested to determine how one deals with an apparent etiquette "offense"

[weregoingcruising]

1 minute ago, NutsAboutGolf said:

I'm far more interested to determine how one deals with an apparent etiquette "offense"

Provide an example.

[NutsAboutGolf]

3 minutes ago, weregoingcruising said:

Provide an example.

 

Anything you find offensive, such as loudly playing a video in the solarium

[Pinboy]

5 hours ago, phoenix_dream said:

Never in my (long) life have I seen so many careless, reckless, aggressive, inconsiderate, illegal driving behavior as I see since Covid.

" since Covid " ?

So, were you driving in Montreal at the time ??

LOL--- The driving there has nothing to do with Covid.

Hope you can read and translate the signs ( all in French ) while traveling at 140km in a 90km zone in order to keep up with the traffic. 

Hey, it's all good there--- especially the food !!

 

[Georgia_Peaches]

3 hours ago, NutsAboutGolf said:

I'm far more interested to determine how one deals with an apparent etiquette "offense"

Agree. It’s one thing to recognize bad etiquette in any social setting and something altogether different in handling it. I think most people (not all) who say they would do XYZ really wouldn’t if faced with the actual circumstance. My approach was to do nothing but I was annoyed. I tried giving the stink eye but the offender was oblivious to their surroundings. I’ve read a few good suggestions in this thread, tho.