Zenith access to Retreat Lounge

[TrueCruiseaholic]

Space available starting today on Solstice.

 

Full announcement to come Tuesday.

[phoenix_dream]

Just now, TrueCruiseaholic said:

Space available starting today on Solstice.

 

Full announcement to come Tuesday.

Just read that also. It's about time that came back! Does it include the deck as well as the lounge do we know?

[TrueCruiseaholic]

Probably not since Zenith never received that in the first place. I don't have any more information than what was related to us by guests onboard Solstice.

[zitsky]

And then the complaints from Zenith that it’s too crowded and why do they let people from suites in?  Can’t they at least throw out the Sky Suite passengers?  😂

Edited September 23, 2023 by zitsky

[phoenix_dream]

13 minutes ago, TrueCruiseaholic said:

Probably not since Zenith never received that in the first place. I don't have any more information than what was related to us by guests onboard Solstice.

I guess I'm wondering,  as Retreat decks were a very new thing pre-Covid. They actually have the most space so it seems kind of strange that it would be limited to the lounge. I would assume not Luminae as that could possibly get too crowded. But I use the lounge the most when in suites so I'd love to have that back when I'm not.

[phoenix_dream]

16 minutes ago, zitsky said:

And then the complaints from Zenith that it’s too crowded and why do they let people from suites in?  Can’t they at least throw out the Sky Suite passengers?  😂

Don't give them ideas! I think initially Michael's Club access was only upper level suites

[cruisestitch]

Zeniths never had access to Luminae

[jelayne]

29 minutes ago, phoenix_dream said:

I guess I'm wondering,  as Retreat decks were a very new thing pre-Covid. They actually have the most space so it seems kind of strange that it would be limited to the lounge. I would assume not Luminae as that could possibly get too crowded. But I use the lounge the most when in suites so I'd love to have that back when I'm not.

Every warm sea day we have had on both Edge and Apex the Sun Deck was full, finding a lounger between 10-3 could be a challenge.   Unfortunately our only Beyond cruise we had lousy weather so never got to use the sun deck.

[phoenix_dream]

45 minutes ago, jelayne said:

Every warm sea day we have had on both Edge and Apex the Sun Deck was full, finding a lounger between 10-3 could be a challenge.   Unfortunately our only Beyond cruise we had lousy weather so never got to use the sun deck.

I've never had trouble finding a seat. But I definitely had problems finding a good seat, especially one in the shade.

[phoenix_dream]

1 hour ago, cruisestitch said:

Zeniths never had access to Luminae

Agree. But the way they are making changes these days no one can accurately predict what's coming. I am of the opinion though that they will not add that benefit to Zenith. 

[hcat]

2 hours ago, phoenix_dream said:

Don't give them ideas! I think initially Michael's Club access was only upper level suites

initially it was a cigar bar, then a piano style lounge, then for Cap Club Elites.. Many have had a turn at being in and out..!

[JaneStarr]

1 hour ago, phoenix_dream said:

I've never had trouble finding a seat. But I definitely had problems finding a good seat, especially one in the shade.

Shade is scarce

[NutsAboutGolf]

Wonder if it applies to high-rolling casino players?  Note, that you need some serious play in order to get to the casino status that allows what it calls "VIP Lounge" access which is the Retreat

[Orator]

Seems to be "on a space available" basis, which is more than fine with me. I, for one will now consider Celebrity.

[doghog]

27 minutes ago, Orator said:

Seems to be "on a space available" basis, which is more than fine with me. I, for one will now consider Celebrity.

RCs CAS also does that for Pinnacles in the Suite Lounge. 

[TommyD3]

37 minutes ago, Orator said:

Seems to be "on a space available" basis, which is more than fine with me. I, for one will now consider Celebrity.

Will be interesting to see what "space available" means. Does it mean that the senior officer night Zeniths are not allowed because there are too many suite guests present? Will Zeniths already in the lounge be ejected to allow space for entering suite guest? Does it mean that on TA cruises with 30+ Zeniths none have access the entire cruise ???

[NutsAboutGolf]

3 hours ago, TrueCruiseaholic said:

Space available starting today on Solstice.

 

Full announcement to come Tuesday.

 

Have you heard of any other updates in the "full announcement" or is it just the Zenith allowed into the Retreat?

[NutsAboutGolf]

Just now, TommyD3 said:

Will be interesting to see what "space available" means. Does it mean that the senior officer night Zeniths are not allowed because there are too many suite guests present? Will Zeniths already in the lounge be ejected to allow space for entering suite guest? Does it mean that on TA cruises with 30+ Zeniths none have access the entire cruise ???

 

They allowed this before the pandemic, anyone recall if it was "space available" then?

[TommyD3]

We have been Zenith since before it was a level and never had restricted access to Michael's Club / The Retreat until the Pandemic shut down. Sounds like Blu access for Suite guests, maybe one can get in, maybe not !!!

[jelayne]

We avoid the Retreat Lounge on Senior Officers night, never understood the why it was such a big deal.  

[HskrCrsr]

5 hours ago, NutsAboutGolf said:

 

They allowed this before the pandemic, anyone recall if it was "space available" then?

I have this chart from 2020, prior to the November 2020 changes that removed this access. While some benefits have comments about availability, there is no such comment for the Zenith access benefit.

[Cruise a holic]

10 hours ago, JaneStarr said:

Shade is scarce

That is a real problem.  Today, with so many people aware of the dangers of the sun, more shade should be available, just as smoking areas are limited- so should sunny areas be limited.  My DH has had multiple pre cancerous skin lesions that had to be removed and one melanoma on his nose.  It required plastic surgery, but fortunately he is fine.  Happened about three years ago.  In addition to skin cancer, I am concerned with wrinkles.  It is especially important to keep your children well protected in the sun. Wear rash guard type swim jackets.  The sun can be dangerous.

[sixpackeddie]

11 hours ago, NutsAboutGolf said:

Wonder if it applies to high-rolling casino players?  Note, that you need some serious play in order to get to the casino status that allows what it calls "VIP Lounge" access which is the Retreat

I wonder that myself. On the Blue Chip Club listing of benefits it shows Sapphire and above have access to the VIP lounge.

[hcat]

26 minutes ago, Cruise a holic said:

That is a real problem.  Today, with so many people aware of the dangers of the sun, more shade should be available, just as smoking areas are limited- so should sunny areas be limited.  My DH has had multiple pre cancerous skin lesions that had to be removed and one melanoma on his nose.  It required plastic surgery, but fortunately he is fine.  Happened about three years ago.  In addition to skin cancer, I am concerned with wrinkles.  It is especially important to keep your children well protected in the sun. Wear rash guard type swim jackets.  The sun can be dangerous.

We found a  nice covered shady spot at the outdoor area on Beyond but went early and once on a port day..no crowds. Of course no shade at the little pool.

 

  To avoid the sun, best to stay indoors or use the Solarium pool.

[Cruise a holic]

21 minutes ago, hcat said:

We found a  nice covered shady spot at the outdoor area on Beyond but went early and once on a port day..no crowds. Of course no shade at the little pool.

 

  To avoid the sun, best to stay indoors or use the Solarium pool.

we also found a great shady spot on the Apex.  We sit near the bar under the overhang.  Also similar shady spot on other side of the pool.  But why not have a true awning for those of us who want shade?  I see people toasting themselves and cannot understand why they think it looks good.  In a few more years, they may  be sorry they did!

Edited September 24, 2023 by Cruise a holic