Passenger Behavior - Does if Differ ?

[GUT2407]

30 minutes ago, A2Mich said:

 

You may very well be correct, as it sounds as if you may be a regular user of one.  My experience was limited to about 3 months of use once or twice per week at the supermarket.  I was surprised when they continued to roll quite a bit further than I anticipated.

Yes people don't appreciate how far they roll after you let go, I only use a scooter occasionally preferring a power wheelchair, but have to constatntly remind people to not step in front of me and just stop or even suddenly slow up. They wouldn't do it with a car. 

[A2Mich]

3 minutes ago, GUT2407 said:

Yes people don't appreciate how far they roll after you let go, I only use a scooter occasionally preferring a power wheelchair, but have to constatntly remind people to not step in front of me and just stop or even suddenly slow up. They wouldn't do it with a car. 

 

 

Trust me, you’d be surprised what people will do driving a car....

[GUT2407]

3 minutes ago, A2Mich said:

 

 

Trust me, you’d be surprised what people will do driving a car....

yeah but not many step in front of one and then stop. (some but not as many as do it with a scooter).

[A2Mich]

4 minutes ago, GUT2407 said:

yeah but not many step in front of one and then stop. (some but not as many as do it with a scooter).

I apologize.  I misread your post.  

[GUT2407]

40 minutes ago, A2Mich said:

I apologize.  I misread your post.  

No need to apologise.

[Reina del Mar]

Just off an Australia/ Asia cruise..

 

Lots of pushing to get into lifts before other guests had exit ed...far more than in Europe or USA. ( and that's not always good).

 

On coach excursions and  flights we have always found you wait until the seat in front of you has cleared before moving..not so this time...push and shove to be first off!

 

Lack of hand washing in public restrooms seems to be an issue wherever we travel.

 

Filling personal bottles or flasks directly from buffet spigots was worse on this cruise, small notice to begin with, then large notice but still many passengers continued.

 

Passengers happier to share tables in buffet on this cruise.

 

More large groups travelling together than USA/ European cruises making for loud atmosphere.

 

Not so much chair hogging.

 

Most people cleared their towels from loungers when they left which isn' t always the case on Caribbean cruises.

 

More people seemed to be inside ship doing activities than Med/ Caribbean cruises..maybe due to it being a longer cruise.

 

Sure there were other things but we just go with the flow and embrace cultural differences....moaning about them as we go !!

 

[sydbarrett]

I think on every ship you will encounter some of the nicest people you've ever met, as well as the rudest. I've never seen anything too rowdy but I hear that is more common on shorter cheap cruises. I have never been on Carnival because of that reputation. I will say that if  there is a very large group travelling together on a ship, it will be very irritating because you will really feel them taking over all the hot spots (pool especially). 

Edited April 22, 2019 by agibeault

[Sancho_proudfoot]

I have encountered behaviour which could be called "bad" in various parts of the world. Sadly, some of the more unforgettable incidents involve my fellow Brits.

 

Out of school time, it seems to be the norm to basically turn the teenagers loose to do whatever they want, whenever and whereever they choose.

 

Large groups (often in specially printed t-shirts) who feel the required action on a member of the party joining them is to guffaw loudly and cackle manically at the slightest thing has happened a few times.

 

Finally the loud tank-top, shorts, reversed baseball cap wearing individual trying to argue his way into the MDR on formal night shouting " its my vacation, no-one is gonna tell me what to wear".

 

Bad behaviour occurs everywhere, by the old, the young, the Europeans, the Americans, the Chinese .......

 

Unless it directly and specifically involves me, l ignore it and move on.  Life's too short and cruises too expensive to allow boors to ruin things.

[screwsmcernst]

We have sailed Carnival and Celebrity lines.  We have met mostly wonderful people on both.  We have also encountered a few rude and condescending people on both lines.  On Carnival, there was a woman in a scooter, who felt like she was entitled to be first everywhere she went, and she would run into you if you didn't move out of her way.  One evening we were in the show lounge,  there was a very nice older couple waiting in front of us to sit in one of the rows.  This horrible woman comes barreling down the aisle yelling, "Out of the way, I want to be down front."  My husband asked her nicely to wait for this couple.  She replied that she wasn't waiting.  She ran into my husband, he turned around grabbed her handle bars, scolded her like she was a child, and said she was not moving until this couple got seated.  I was so proud of him.  and the older couple thanked him also.

 

On Celebrity, there was a large group from New York City.  They were so rude to the staff. Nothing was good enough.  The sailing before had an outbreak of Noro-virus.  They had all the extra staff they could find in the lido cafe serving lunch on embarkation day.  One woman was so horrible and rude to the server, because he would not let her serve herself, and it was taking too long.  My friend, whom we were sailing with,  politely put her in her place.  It was magical.  The woman couldn't back-peddle fast enough.  

Luckily, the nice people outnumber the rude, disrespectful, overly entitled people.  Enjoy your cruise.  be nice to the staff and fellow guests, stay away from the horrible people,  and remember different cultures have different ways of doing things.  It isn't right, it isn't wrong, it's different.  Bon Voyage.  😃

[K32682]

39 minutes ago, screwsmcernst said:

On Carnival, there was a woman in a scooter, who felt like she was entitled to be first everywhere she went, and she would run into you if you didn't move out of her way.  One evening we were in the show lounge,  there was a very nice older couple waiting in front of us to sit in one of the rows.  This horrible woman comes barreling down the aisle yelling, "Out of the way, I want to be down front."  My husband asked her nicely to wait for this couple.  She replied that she wasn't waiting.  She ran into my husband, he turned around grabbed her handle bars, scolded her like she was a child, and said she was not moving until this couple got seated.  I was so proud of him.  and the older couple thanked him also.

 

Good job by your husband. Further up thread I mentioned a similar encounter with a scooter maniac.  Being disabled is not a licence to be a jerk.  Most people on scooters are fine but the few who aren't sometimes need a short, sharp lesson on manners and face some consequences for boorish behavior. 

 

Edited April 23, 2019 by K32682

[SRF]

A comedian on Grandeur a week or two ago had a great routine on "scooter people."

 

Someone in the audience said something, and he asked us if we thought he was "scooter racist."

 

We were rolling

 

[GUT2407]

26 minutes ago, SRF said:

A comedian on Grandeur a week or two ago had a great routine on "scooter people."

 

Someone in the audience said something, and he asked us if we thought he was "scooter racist."

 

We were rolling

 

Yeah jokes about disabilities are really hilarious 

[kdkstormy]

In November 2017 we did our first cruise with Carnival.  We have been on Princess, Holland America, Celebrity as well as Carnival

 

While sitting on the Serenity deck (adult only deck) we were witness to this lovely show!  It started with a couple of guys and then grew.  While not great to look at it gave us a good laugh. 

 

This group called themselves "Hashers".  They had different theme days on the cruise.  The photo was Mankini day, they also had days for bright crop tops, red dress day,  both men and women dressing in both categories. I can't recall what the other days were.

 

John Heald is the Carnival Brand Ambassador who has a very active Facebook page, so I decided to post a cheeky message to him with the picture.  Later that day while I was having a snooze in our stateroom, the phone rang.  It was customer service calling me to ask if I had any concerns about the behavior on the Serenity deck.  Social media can be incredible. Mr Heald who lives in the UK it seems thought I was upset and had the staff contact me.  😲

 

I spoke with a bunch of them over the next few days, except for a few, most were very nice and respectful.

 

We likely will not go on another Carnival ship  We had a very good time, but it wasn't the gentleman 😁 in this photo that turned us off, it was the amount of smoke you encounter even 3 decks away from the casino.  Celebrity will now be our likely cruise of choice as they allow no smoking inside, even the casino

 

 

[K32682]

9 hours ago, GUT2407 said:

Yeah jokes about disabilities are really hilarious 

 

It's not jokes about disabilities.  It's jokes about bad behavior.  The disabled don't get a pass when they are obnoxious. The fact that comedians are making jokes about it is a sure sign the behavior is more common than some might think. 

[navybankerteacher]

2 hours ago, K32682 said:

 

It's not jokes about disabilities.  It's jokes about bad behavior.  The disabled don't get a pass when they are obnoxious. The fact that comedians are making jokes about it is a sure sign the behavior is more common than some might think. 

Good point - “entitled” behavior is tiresome and needs to be protested; whether the source of the (self-perceived) “entitlement” is one’s disability, one’s triple diamond status, or simply one’s membership in a large group traveling together.

[Joebucks]

My first ever cruise was a 4-day through Carnival. After what I read online, I expected the scum of the earth, party city, puke everywhere, frat boy, bourbon street chaos. There was none of that. In my handful of Carnival cruises, I can count on one hand the amount of people I wish I didn't share the boat with. Since when do you judge a boat of 3000 people by what ~5 people act like?

 

I think it varies most by the port more than anything. Even the more "upscale" lines hold some of the rudest, most inconsiderate people, take your pick. If you expect the public to think and act just like you anywhere you go, you will be in for a surprise.

[Sancho_proudfoot]

1 hour ago, navybankerteacher said:

Good point - “entitled” behavior is tiresome and needs to be protested; whether the source of the (self-perceived) “entitlement” is one’s disability, one’s triple diamond status, or simply one’s membership in a large group traveling together.

 

Absolutely correct; add to the list of "entitlements" the emotional support dog owners (as discussed elsewhere on CC) and my pet peeve, the (much) older guest who thinks that they can walk to the front of the line just because they are old.

[navybankerteacher]

35 minutes ago, Sancho_proudfoot said:

 

Absolutely correct; add to the list of "entitlements" the emotional support dog owners (as discussed elsewhere on CC) and my pet peeve, the (much) older guest who thinks that they can walk to the front of the line just because they are old.

In the interest of avoiding charges of “ageism”, shouldn’t you also include the (much) younger guests who apparently think they can sit on, and effectively block, stairs just because they are teenagers?

[Sancho_proudfoot]

6 minutes ago, navybankerteacher said:

In the interest of avoiding charges of “ageism”, shouldn’t you also include the (much) younger guests who apparently think they can sit on, and effectively block, stairs just because they are teenagers?

 

Oh don't get me started on the behaviour of teenagers on cruise ships............

[navybankerteacher]

2 minutes ago, Sancho_proudfoot said:

 

Oh don't get me started on the behaviour of teenagers on cruise ships............

The sad fact is that there are so many  categories of self-absorbed cruise passengers.  In an ideal world there might be a required orientation and evaluation session before anyone is permitted to book a cruise — if someone does not demonstrate a reasonable level of civility and common courtesy, he/she will not be permitted to board —- something like CBP’s Trusted Traveler program - might be called Cruise Industry Acceptable Cruiser program: CIAC designation must be earned.

[SRF]

13 hours ago, GUT2407 said:

Yeah jokes about disabilities are really hilarious 

 

The jokes were NOT about them being disabled.

 

It was about some of them not operating the scooter responsibly.  Like running into people.

 

Or do you think the disabled should be treated differently, in regards to common courtesy??????

[iancal]

We have not found much difference between Celebrity, HAL,Princess, Carnival, RCI, or NCL.

 

The differences we see are primarily attributable to the timing such as Christmas.   

 

We have only done two Carnival cruises.  Both were excellent and compared well to other cruises that we have taken.   

 

We are very careful when it comes to selecting ships and timing of our trips.  Cruise lines not so much.

[Aplmac]

On 4/1/2019 at 1:11 PM, cb at sea said:

So, pretty much the answer is:

- it will depend on who's on your ship at any given time!

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- and also the amount of alcohol being consumed, I reckon.

That always helps to lower standards.

[cruisemom42]

23 hours ago, navybankerteacher said:

The sad fact is that there are so many  categories of self-absorbed cruise passengers.  In an ideal world there might be a required orientation and evaluation session before anyone is permitted to book a cruise — if someone does not demonstrate a reasonable level of civility and common courtesy, he/she will not be permitted to board —- something like CBP’s Trusted Traveler program - might be called Cruise Industry Acceptable Cruiser program: CIAC designation must be earned.

 

Basically in any population there are those who might be equally called bad-mannered, self-absorbed, rude, etc. Occurs in the young, in the elderly, in all nationalities. I am not sure if it's an innate characteristic among some, or whether it is related to other factors -- probably both.

 

My son and I booked virtually the same cruise on the same ship at the same time of year for three years straight. The middle of those three years the ship -- instead of departing from Ft. Lauderdale -- left from NYC (Brooklyn to be exact). Princess had decided to base Caribbean Princess there for Caribbean itineraries in the late spring/early summer. 

 

That middle cruise is the only cruise I've ever taken where there was such bad behavior in evidence that I was legitimately concerned. People were quite rude to the crew. Right in front of us, a fist-fight broke out in the main theater over saving of seats for a comedy performance. Many instances of very loud altercations and foul language on the pool deck regarding space/lounge chairs. Quite a few instances of obvious drunkenness. Outdoor furniture got trashed and some ended up in the pool one evening. (And this was not the result of teens -- it was late May and most of the teens in NY/NJ area are in school through early June....)

 

None of this behaviour occurred on the other two cruises, which departed from Florida. Coincidence?  Maybe.... but I am not planning to take another cruise departing NY any time soon.

 

I think we could name your pre-vetting program C.R.U.I.S.E.  (Cruiser Registration for Utilization of Infrastructure and Services Etiquette).

[ontheweb]

I wonder if there is more of a difference based on ship size than cruise line. It's a small sample, but I found our smallest ships seemed to have the friendliest passengers while on the one huge ship we sailed on (NCL Epic) fellow passengers seemed to be much less inclined to be friendly.