bobbismith Posted May 30, 2019 #76 Share Posted May 30, 2019 On 5/27/2019 at 10:55 PM, JMann404 said: Just returned from the May 19 Star Princess cruise to Alaska. Dress of any kind was acceptable from totally casual to formal. Very few formal. Unless you specifically want to dress formal don't waste the space. Thanks for the update. I do hate not dressing nice like we do for hot weather cruise. Alaska (the first time) is a challenge. We want to be prepared and have to pack for 20 days. Thanks, Bobbi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare oskidunker Posted May 30, 2019 #77 Share Posted May 30, 2019 I have plenty of space . :.)) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majortom10 Posted May 30, 2019 #78 Share Posted May 30, 2019 2 hours ago, Potstech said: Nor would it make it unacceptable or wrong. You obviously have lower personal standards with regards to what is formal dress and what is not than what I have. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voljeep Posted May 30, 2019 #79 Share Posted May 30, 2019 20 minutes ago, majortom10 said: You obviously have lower personal standards with regards to what is formal dress and what is not than what I have. LOWER !!! ??? how about let's just say different people have different standards ... not lower not higher ... just different so non-judgemental much ... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare c-boy Posted May 30, 2019 #80 Share Posted May 30, 2019 44 minutes ago, oskidunker said: I have plenty of space . :.)) I'll also have room in my steamer trunk after I get rid of the dozen cartons of cigarettes, case of wine, two cases of soda pop, a case of bottled water, 10 # of coffee and the barrel chair. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majortom10 Posted May 30, 2019 #81 Share Posted May 30, 2019 1 hour ago, voljeep said: LOWER !!! ??? how about let's just say different people have different standards ... not lower not higher ... just different so non-judgemental much ... No I am sorry but IMO if you think wearing jeans is formal then you dont have different standards but lower standards when you think it is OK to walk in MDR in jeans when people are wearing suits and ties or dinner suits. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kywildcatfanone Posted May 30, 2019 #82 Share Posted May 30, 2019 1 minute ago, majortom10 said: No I am sorry but IMO if you think wearing jeans is formal then you dont have different standards but lower standards when you think it is OK to walk in MDR in jeans when people are wearing suits and ties or dinner suits. IMO, so it is your opinion, and your opinion only. I am genuinely curious why what someone else is wearing to sit down to dinner negatively impacts your own experience? I have never once concerned myself with what someone else was wearing at dinner on a cruise ship or anywhere else for that matter. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2old4this Posted May 30, 2019 #83 Share Posted May 30, 2019 As this attire discussion grows in numbers of players and our opinions become highly divided, why not ask the cruise line to put as divider in the dining room? On one side of this wall guests come as they wish no matter the attire from overalls to swimsuits. On the other, gowns and dark suits are strictly required for entry. Everything else in this fabulous dining room the same for all comers. I, for one, a frequent cruiser, will not be pleased to be seated at a large table dressed to the nines with several guests wearing shorts and flip flops. The combination would be off balance for me. My evenings on board these magnificent vessels are geared to take me to a special night out that begins with dinner and theater. Afterwards, still dressed in what I deem as evening attire, I stop for a drink, some guitar, and say goodnight. Does my thinking seem agreeable to anyone? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kywildcatfanone Posted May 31, 2019 #84 Share Posted May 31, 2019 53 minutes ago, 2old4this said: As this attire discussion grows in numbers of players and our opinions become highly divided, why not ask the cruise line to put as divider in the dining room? On one side of this wall guests come as they wish no matter the attire from overalls to swimsuits. On the other, gowns and dark suits are strictly required for entry. Everything else in this fabulous dining room the same for all comers. I, for one, a frequent cruiser, will not be pleased to be seated at a large table dressed to the nines with several guests wearing shorts and flip flops. The combination would be off balance for me. My evenings on board these magnificent vessels are geared to take me to a special night out that begins with dinner and theater. Afterwards, still dressed in what I deem as evening attire, I stop for a drink, some guitar, and say goodnight. Does my thinking seem agreeable to anyone? I've said in other threads, make on DR smart casual and another formal on formal nights. Solves the same problem without the divider wall so the dining room doesn't look like a cubicle office. If the she only has one DR, have a formal night sitting time and a smart casual sitting time. In most of these threads, the biggest complaint for folks who don't want to dress up is they don't want to miss the lobster or other "special foods for the evening. Would solve the issue for everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare c-boy Posted May 31, 2019 #85 Share Posted May 31, 2019 wait ! 😲 .... there's lobster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Potstech Posted May 31, 2019 #86 Share Posted May 31, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, majortom10 said: You obviously have lower personal standards with regards to what is formal dress and what is not than what I have. Nice insult. My standards are my standards that do not need your approval. Edited May 31, 2019 by Potstech 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Potstech Posted May 31, 2019 #87 Share Posted May 31, 2019 1 hour ago, 2old4this said: As this attire discussion grows in numbers of players and our opinions become highly divided, why not ask the cruise line to put as divider in the dining room? On one side of this wall guests come as they wish no matter the attire from overalls to swimsuits. On the other, gowns and dark suits are strictly required for entry. Everything else in this fabulous dining room the same for all comers. I, for one, a frequent cruiser, will not be pleased to be seated at a large table dressed to the nines with several guests wearing shorts and flip flops. The combination would be off balance for me. My evenings on board these magnificent vessels are geared to take me to a special night out that begins with dinner and theater. Afterwards, still dressed in what I deem as evening attire, I stop for a drink, some guitar, and say goodnight. Does my thinking seem agreeable to anyone? No. If you do not like who is seated with you there is always the option to move yourself to a different table/venue. Who knows the people who are dressed the way you dislike may have taken more cruises than you have on Princess. Could be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2old4this Posted May 31, 2019 #88 Share Posted May 31, 2019 3 hours ago, Potstech said: No. If you do not like who is seated with you there is always the option to move yourself to a different table/venue. Who knows the people who are dressed the way you dislike may have taken more cruises than you have on Princess. Could be. Frankly, I could care less who has cruised the most, Potstech. I simply wanted to make clear I have long preferred a tux code for that one special formal night and I pack accordingly. I have long experienced diners who don't see the colorful surroundings of a restaurant, black and white clothing, low lighting, and servers in white gloves, as impacting their joy of eating their lobster . . . Or whatever it is they want before them. Be sure, I don't dress in dark suits at home and my wife is in her street clothes, too, when we eat. Please bear with me when I say my dinner in my tux in surroundings I can hardly afford, followed by performances in the theater, a stop for red wine in a cozy bar, and then a few steps to my cabin, is worth the weight of my 'dressy' attire. I realize much of the feeling I get when I have my way at formal night is little more than fantasy. I try to live it fully. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renmar Posted May 31, 2019 #89 Share Posted May 31, 2019 This looks pretty formal and takes up hardly any space in your suitcase 😉. Theo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve551 Posted May 31, 2019 #90 Share Posted May 31, 2019 On 5/20/2019 at 8:53 AM, memoak said: That is just fine - for the first time in 40 cruises I am leaving the tux at home and just bringing some button down shirts, slacks and sports coat It's been several years since I've bothered with a sports coat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ep010835 Posted May 31, 2019 #91 Share Posted May 31, 2019 14 hours ago, majortom10 said: You obviously have lower personal standards with regards to what is formal dress and what is not than what I have. Note the key word in the above [emphasis added]. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissP22 Posted May 31, 2019 #92 Share Posted May 31, 2019 9 hours ago, kywildcatfanone said: I've said in other threads, make on DR smart casual and another formal on formal nights. Solves the same problem without the divider wall so the dining room doesn't look like a cubicle office. If the she only has one DR, have a formal night sitting time and a smart casual sitting time. In most of these threads, the biggest complaint for folks who don't want to dress up is they don't want to miss the lobster or other "special foods for the evening. Would solve the issue for everyone. That's the only reason we do attend the DR on formal nights- The food! We couldn't care less about dressing up & only go casually. If Princess did care about any dress code they would accommodate everyone with something like you described, but as you well know they don't & leave it up to the individuals to choose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Potstech Posted May 31, 2019 #93 Share Posted May 31, 2019 6 hours ago, 2old4this said: Frankly, I could care less who has cruised the most, Potstech. I simply wanted to make clear I have long preferred a tux code for that one special formal night and I pack accordingly. I have long experienced diners who don't see the colorful surroundings of a restaurant, black and white clothing, low lighting, and servers in white gloves, as impacting their joy of eating their lobster . . . Or whatever it is they want before them. Be sure, I don't dress in dark suits at home and my wife is in her street clothes, too, when we eat. Please bear with me when I say my dinner in my tux in surroundings I can hardly afford, followed by performances in the theater, a stop for red wine in a cozy bar, and then a few steps to my cabin, is worth the weight of my 'dressy' attire. I realize much of the feeling I get when I have my way at formal night is little more than fantasy. I try to live it fully. You were the one who brought up that you cruised frequently. Apparently you do care. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voljeep Posted May 31, 2019 #94 Share Posted May 31, 2019 (edited) OK - I gotta go with the Tuxedo and Lobster go together posters on this one ... makes it feel like it gonna be a very special night https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAPy3Zi6G3c Edited May 31, 2019 by voljeep link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare c-boy Posted May 31, 2019 #95 Share Posted May 31, 2019 9 hours ago, 2old4this said: Frankly, I could care less who has cruised the most, Potstech. I simply wanted to make clear I have long preferred a tux code for that one special formal night and I pack accordingly. I have long experienced diners who don't see the colorful surroundings of a restaurant, black and white clothing, low lighting, and servers in white gloves, as impacting their joy of eating their lobster . . . Or whatever it is they want before them. Be sure, I don't dress in dark suits at home and my wife is in her street clothes, too, when we eat. Please bear with me when I say my dinner in my tux in surroundings I can hardly afford, followed by performances in the theater, a stop for red wine in a cozy bar, and then a few steps to my cabin, is worth the weight of my 'dressy' attire. I realize much of the feeling I get when I have my way at formal night is little more than fantasy. I try to live it fully. passengers don't even have to pack a tux/suit anymore, the have rentals available. Hanging in your cabin/suite when you arrive. It's a wonderful possibility Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kansas Gal Posted May 31, 2019 #96 Share Posted May 31, 2019 I have an idea. Let's bring back a steerage class. Same price and amenities (because some of us are elite and own Carnival stock) but you are sent there based on what you wear to formal night as determined by the "upper class" (self-designated) on here. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Potstech Posted May 31, 2019 #97 Share Posted May 31, 2019 1 hour ago, c-boy said: passengers don't even have to pack a tux/suit anymore, the have rentals available. Hanging in your cabin/suite when you arrive. It's a wonderful possibility 1 hour ago, c-boy said: passengers don't even have to pack a tux/suit anymore, the have rentals available. Hanging in your cabin/suite when you arrive. It's a wonderful possibility At a cost of about $100.00 and provided by a third party vendor. Not worth it for just two meals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare c-boy Posted May 31, 2019 #98 Share Posted May 31, 2019 1 hour ago, Potstech said: At a cost of about $100.00 and provided by a third party vendor. Not worth it for just two meals. 😄 whats with you and this " third party vendor" thing. Good deal for the cost of the convenience. I bet ya spend that much on shore excursions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Potstech Posted May 31, 2019 #99 Share Posted May 31, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, c-boy said: 😄 whats with you and this " third party vendor" thing. Good deal for the cost of the convenience. I bet ya spend that much on shore excursions. This is not a program provided by Princess. You must contact a third party vendor and they provide the formal wear to the ship. Check it out. If I do spend more on excursions it would be for what I want to do, would be way more enjoyable and would last longer that a formal dinner. And I would have much better stories and memories for the expenditure of my money. Edited May 31, 2019 by Potstech Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare c-boy Posted May 31, 2019 #100 Share Posted May 31, 2019 (edited) wonderful ! you do that, but don't expect the rest of us to follow ya down the rabbit hole. Edited May 31, 2019 by c-boy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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