rene194215 Posted January 9, 2020 #1 Share Posted January 9, 2020 Hi! This will be my second time in Europe (first time I was 11 so no real experience) I have been doing some research and am trying to build a packing list and wanted to reach out and see what advise can be given by port as far as a dress code for women. I will have a light shawl with me to cover my shoulders but I like to have shorts on when exploring. I do not like to be hot so I would like to avoid longer pants. Also, I dont particularly like dresses on tours. I know some places you need to have knees covered as well I think to go in a church? Can anyone shed some light? Ports are below. Venice Rijeka Kotor Corfu Malta Messina Naples Rome (Vatican so I think I will need capris for this) Livorno Barcelona THANK YOU!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evandbob Posted January 9, 2020 #2 Share Posted January 9, 2020 For European churches, knees and shoulders should be covered. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meanjean80 Posted January 9, 2020 #3 Share Posted January 9, 2020 Hola. I'm on the same itinerary later in September, and this will be my fourth European cruise. Note that it's not the ports of call, per se, it's houses of worship. Which most European tours include. If yours does, my suggestion would be to 1-never wear a tank top; 2-bring a large, light wrap (something that could be used for a beach cover up, for example) that you could wrap around your waist as a sarong, hence covering your knees. Vendors often sell something that works outside of the churches, but why waste the euros if not necessary. If you're wearing a tee shirt with sleeves, no need to worry about the shoulders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rufflesmom Posted January 9, 2020 #4 Share Posted January 9, 2020 We were on a Mediterrean cruise in August 2018. We were at a village on Malta, went into a church. They very much enforced shoulders and knees being covered (there was a man sitting inside the door giving women shawls to cover up shoulders). In Rome we went to St Peters Basilica in the Vatican. I did see people denied entry due to what they were wearing. I wore capris and a top with cap sleeves. It was quite acceptable. I didn't want to wear long pants because it was summer and very hot. The only issue with clothing should be going into churches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanger727 Posted January 9, 2020 #5 Share Posted January 9, 2020 1 minute ago, meanjean80 said: Hola. I'm on the same itinerary later in September, and this will be my fourth European cruise. Note that it's not the ports of call, per se, it's houses of worship. Which most European tours include. If yours does, my suggestion would be to 1-never wear a tank top; 2-bring a large, light wrap (something that could be used for a beach cover up, for example) that you could wrap around your waist as a sarong, hence covering your knees. Vendors often sell something that works outside of the churches, but why waste the euros if not necessary. If you're wearing a tee shirt with sleeves, no need to worry about the shoulders. Agreed, this is what I do. Dress to be comfortable but bring lightweight wraps in your purse to wear in churches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twickenham Posted January 9, 2020 #6 Share Posted January 9, 2020 You will not see many, if any, in shorts other than at the beach in Europe. So I would rethink that aspect of your wardrobe. I do hear you about not wanting to be hot. I have some experience touring in the heat (including Texas in July!), so here are some tips: -Wear natural fibres. I can't emphasize this enough - it makes such a difference. Cotton and linen are your new best friends😁. No joke, a good pair of linen pants will be cooler than any pair of shorts you can wear; -Look at capris - these will be quite common in Europe, so definitely look to wearing these rather than shorts; -I know you mentioned not liking dresses, but a nice cotton sundress can be quite comfortable; -Do not forget good walking shoes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogs4fun Posted January 9, 2020 #7 Share Posted January 9, 2020 Appropriate attire is required for churches in Rome (these rules are arbitrarily followed depending on the church) - shorts are not considered acceptable attire. I also don't care to wear dresses - capris are a great alternative - personally, we do not wear shorts in europe. Some places have very little shade (Rome for example). In addition to comfortable shoes, I would recommend taking sun hat, sun screen & water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Hlitner Posted January 9, 2020 #8 Share Posted January 9, 2020 General dress code? Jeans, jeans, jeans. That is truly the general dress code throughout much of Europe. As others have said, there are certain dress codes for entering some (not all) churches although we have seen plenty of folks walk into European churches in shorts and even sleeveless shirts. The Vatican does enforce their dress code (cover knees and shoulders). I should mention that as a guy who has traveled extensively throughout Europe, when it is hot I will usually wear shorts and DW will generally be in Capris. While it is true that many European men will not be caught dead in shorts, I am not a European :). On a hot day in Rome of Venice you will see plenty of shorts. Bottom line is that your tourist days can be long and involve a lot of walking..so dress comfy. Hank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Bull Posted January 9, 2020 #9 Share Posted January 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Hlitner said: General dress code? Jeans, jeans, jeans. That is truly the general dress code throughout much of Europe. As others have said, there are certain dress codes for entering some (not all) churches although we have seen plenty of folks walk into European churches in shorts and even sleeveless shirts. The Vatican does enforce their dress code (cover knees and shoulders). I should mention that as a guy who has traveled extensively throughout Europe, when it is hot I will usually wear shorts and DW will generally be in Capris. While it is true that many European men will not be caught dead in shorts, I am not a European :). On a hot day in Rome of Venice you will see plenty of shorts. Bottom line is that your tourist days can be long and involve a lot of walking..so dress comfy. Hank I'll go along with Hank on that cos we do get some hot days. I wear shorts locally on hot days, especially if working outside. In cities, with shorts you'll look like a tourist. But what the heck - you'll look like a tourist anyway. JB ps Was going to point out the language difference for "shorts" between the US and the UK. But decided not to - in the hope of causing embarrassment to some unwitting US cruiser 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarrenM Posted January 9, 2020 #10 Share Posted January 9, 2020 2 hours ago, rene194215 said: Hi! This will be my second time in Europe (first time I was 11 so no real experience) I have been doing some research and am trying to build a packing list and wanted to reach out and see what advise can be given by port as far as a dress code for women. I will have a light shawl with me to cover my shoulders but I like to have shorts on when exploring. I do not like to be hot so I would like to avoid longer pants. Also, I dont particularly like dresses on tours. I know some places you need to have knees covered as well I think to go in a church? Can anyone shed some light? Ports are below. Venice Rijeka Kotor Corfu Malta Messina Naples Rome (Vatican so I think I will need capris for this) Livorno Barcelona THANK YOU!!!! Naked in Rome is perfectly acceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarrenM Posted January 9, 2020 #11 Share Posted January 9, 2020 And that is very similar to my next cruise. So you wont be naked alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarrenM Posted January 9, 2020 #12 Share Posted January 9, 2020 There are no churches in Rome so you will be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calliopecruiser Posted January 9, 2020 #13 Share Posted January 9, 2020 2 hours ago, Twickenham said: You will not see many, if any, in shorts other than at the beach in Europe. Sure you will.......I saw many Italians in shorts when I was there last fall (and I never saw a beach). Well, my presumption was they were Italian, but unless I asked them, I wouldn't know for sure. There were certainly lots of people in shorts during the day in all sorts of places (except churches). If you want to wear shorts while visiting churches, take a light wrap or pull-on skirt that you can wear to cover your knees when you're there. I didn't take shorts, and I sorely wished I had, since even lightweight cotton pants were uncomfortable on many days. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ldubs Posted January 9, 2020 #14 Share Posted January 9, 2020 1 hour ago, John Bull said: I'll go along with Hank on that cos we do get some hot days. I wear shorts locally on hot days, especially if working outside. In cities, with shorts you'll look like a tourist. But what the heck - you'll look like a tourist anyway. JB ps Was going to point out the language difference for "shorts" between the US and the UK. But decided not to - in the hope of causing embarrassment to some unwitting US cruiser X3. Hot days = shorts (even thought with legs like mine I shouldn't). I wonder why everyone is so worried about looking like a tourist? When I'm traveling I am not a local and don't need to try and pretend I'm a local. I look like a tourist and act like a tourist because I am a tourist. As long as I don't disrespect local customs, no worries. Before retirement I worked at a location in San Francisco that was kind of on a tourist path. I enjoyed encounters with tourists and frequently helped folks find a place or get "un-lost". What they were wearing didn't really matter, but of course, SF is pretty wide open when it comes to dress styles. 😀 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iancal Posted January 9, 2020 #15 Share Posted January 9, 2020 (edited) Jeans and shorts are no issue. We were on Corfu for a week this past October. Saw lots of people in shorts. Same for Malta. It really depends on what you want to see. In Rome, if visiting churches you may want long pants, capris, skirts, whatever else women wear. You will see shorts...at least we certainly have on our many visits to the city. Don't even bother to worry about looking like a tourist. You will be spotted as one regardless of what you wear. Any why would you especially want to look like a local anyway when you clearly are not??? We certainly wore shorts when we were in Kotor, Dubrovnic, Naples/Sorento, and multiple stays in Barcelona. Edited January 9, 2020 by iancal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taglovestocruise Posted January 9, 2020 #16 Share Posted January 9, 2020 You will find that most of the tourist trap areas around the churches have stalls selling paper leggings to allow church access. I wore shorts in every city on your list, used the paper leggings/knee covers in several of the churches. I actually bought 3 sets at the stall on the corner across from Saint Peters. I am a 6' 220 lb male. happy cruising Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ldubs Posted January 9, 2020 #17 Share Posted January 9, 2020 I apologize in advance for this slight detour. 😀 I see British and/or European men wearing these things that are kind of between shorts and pants. They end about halfway down the calf. Kind of like baggy capri's for men I guess. I want a pair of these. Anyone know what the common name is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taglovestocruise Posted January 9, 2020 #18 Share Posted January 9, 2020 5 minutes ago, ldubs said: I apologize in advance for this slight detour. 😀 I see British and/or European men wearing these things that are kind of between shorts and pants. They end about halfway down the calf. Kind of like baggy capri's for men I guess. I want a pair of these. Anyone know what the common name is? Men'S Capris, you can find a ton of them on Amazon.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare cruisemom42 Posted January 9, 2020 #19 Share Posted January 9, 2020 7 minutes ago, ldubs said: I apologize in advance for this slight detour. 😀 I see British and/or European men wearing these things that are kind of between shorts and pants. They end about halfway down the calf. Kind of like baggy capri's for men I guess. I want a pair of these. Anyone know what the common name is? Manpris. lol. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare cruisemom42 Posted January 9, 2020 #20 Share Posted January 9, 2020 I prefer not to stand out, even if I am a tourist. As a solo woman I prefer not to attract attention to myself and that includes by wearing something that others will notice -- such as shorts. I also do not find shorts to be cooler than lightweight pants, capris or a skirt. The hot sun on bare, exposed skin will heat you up as fast or faster than being a bit more covered. Also, for Darren, it is okay to be "naked" in Rome but only if you are also "stone(d)". 4 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d9704011 Posted January 9, 2020 #21 Share Posted January 9, 2020 15 minutes ago, ldubs said: I apologize in advance for this slight detour. 😀 I see British and/or European men wearing these things that are kind of between shorts and pants. They end about halfway down the calf. Kind of like baggy capri's for men I guess. I want a pair of these. Anyone know what the common name is? Could be an unintended consequence of a severe wedgie. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ldubs Posted January 9, 2020 #22 Share Posted January 9, 2020 4 minutes ago, taglovestocruise said: Men'S Capris, you can find a ton of them on Amazon.. 2 minutes ago, cruisemom42 said: Manpris. lol. Thanks!! I got a ton of hits under both those names. I should be able to get them in time for our next trip later this month! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swaddy Posted January 9, 2020 #23 Share Posted January 9, 2020 Search for crop trousers, which come half way down the calf. Also there are men's trousers with a zip off bottom section that turns into shorts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarrenM Posted January 9, 2020 #24 Share Posted January 9, 2020 51 minutes ago, ldubs said: I apologize in advance for this slight detour. 😀 I see British and/or European men wearing these things that are kind of between shorts and pants. They end about halfway down the calf. Kind of like baggy capri's for men I guess. I want a pair of these. Anyone know what the common name is? Long shorts? Short long trousers? Ex long trousers washed at a very high temperature? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarrenM Posted January 9, 2020 #25 Share Posted January 9, 2020 40 minutes ago, cruisemom42 said: I prefer not to stand out, even if I am a tourist. As a solo woman I prefer not to attract attention to myself and that includes by wearing something that others will notice -- such as shorts. I also do not find shorts to be cooler than lightweight pants, capris or a skirt. The hot sun on bare, exposed skin will heat you up as fast or faster than being a bit more covered. Also, for Darren, it is okay to be "naked" in Rome but only if you are also "stone(d)". Stoned in Rome sounds fun. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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