fstuff1 Posted March 12, 2020 #126 Share Posted March 12, 2020 18 minutes ago, JustAPilot said: Oh man, those circuit breakers are going to explode come opening bell tomorrow. Absolute annihilation on the stock market. we're 10hrs away from US market open. anything can happen, even the market calming down from knee jerk reaction 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustAPilot Posted March 12, 2020 #127 Share Posted March 12, 2020 Dow Futures are down 1100 points, S&P down 121, I hope it’s just a knee jerk reaction.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnsweeps Posted March 12, 2020 #128 Share Posted March 12, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, JustAPilot said: Dow Futures are down 1100 points, S&P down 121, I hope it’s just a knee jerk reaction.. Don't think so. Trump's decision absolutely wont do anything to prevent the spread. And no this is not a political point . I voted for Trump and will so this year. But what prevents folks from going to UK and coming to US? and why is UK is out of the picture? What about the cruises? Just a knee jerk decision by a president whose said its just a flu that would go away just 48 hours before. Edited March 12, 2020 by mnsweeps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyancho Posted March 12, 2020 #129 Share Posted March 12, 2020 1 hour ago, mnsweeps said: Don't think so. Trump's decision absolutely wont do anything to prevent the spread. And no this is not a political point . I voted for Trump and will so this year. But what prevents folks from going to UK and coming to US? and why is UK is out of the picture? What about the cruises? Just a knee jerk decision by a president whose said its just a flu that would go away just 48 hours before. Because the UK has few cases of Corona. Anyone trying to board in the UK, with a passport from a country on the list, will not be allowed to board. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnsweeps Posted March 12, 2020 #130 Share Posted March 12, 2020 21 minutes ago, joeyancho said: Because the UK has few cases of Corona. Anyone trying to board in the UK, with a passport from a country on the list, will not be allowed to board. UK has more infections than Norway, Belgium and some other EU countries. https://informationisbeautiful.net/visualizations/covid-19-coronavirus-infographic-datapack/?fbclid=IwAR2KY80aZDy6KHLlQjnhJ4ltxsyFxrlv7gchmLAmgl5CoVM4Rtq1wlGHlk4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minoushka Posted March 12, 2020 #131 Share Posted March 12, 2020 When things get better i hope they stop charging double for Casino players .I used togetgood cabins at half the rate and i would spenda lot at the casino.....morethan that difference for sure .....yes I know bad girl i amplatinum plus on NCL always treated great and usedto cruise 3-5 times per year ...eachone being a longer cruise .....Now since the rule changed .....double rate per cabin i was last on NCL last october and not been back since ..so no more 5-6 cruises per year .Tell me whose loss isit ??i refuse topay double and play as much ... go back to treating Casino players with good prices .....single occupancy rate ...your ships will fill up ...not to mention other $$$ .i spent on board treat us right we will be backonce this craziness calms down .Someone will need to research vaccines for this virus and get us healthy again real quick .I hope gov.t are spendingin the right direction ....invest insolutions i am confident noonewill go bankrupt ...strapped for cash for sure but hopefull by end of summer normal again i like NCL love cruising ...hope you bounce back ...and dont be greedy when you fo .Be nice to us loyal customers ...treat usright ..we will be back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trimone Posted March 12, 2020 #132 Share Posted March 12, 2020 If NCL did chapter 11, it would kill their customer base, just imagine all the cruise next vouchers, peoples cancellations credit, and let’s not forget the existing shareholders who have treated NCL like their own. Latitudes would be forgotten, with bankruptcy you have no preferences, you can’t just keep the good bits... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ziggyuk Posted March 12, 2020 #133 Share Posted March 12, 2020 3 hours ago, mnsweeps said: UK has more infections than Norway, Belgium and some other EU countries. https://informationisbeautiful.net/visualizations/covid-19-coronavirus-infographic-datapack/?fbclid=IwAR2KY80aZDy6KHLlQjnhJ4ltxsyFxrlv7gchmLAmgl5CoVM4Rtq1wlGHlk4 That appears to be very out of date, it says the US is 1016 but it now stands at 1312. Norway is higher than UK but you are correct there are a couple of EU countries that are lower, I guess our island status and even perhaps Breixt. This is much more up to date: https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ziggyuk Posted March 12, 2020 #134 Share Posted March 12, 2020 The pre market is currently sitting at $12.99 this morning, wowzers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farts Posted March 12, 2020 #135 Share Posted March 12, 2020 3 hours ago, Minoushka said: When things get better i hope they stop charging double for Casino players .I used togetgood cabins at half the rate and i would spenda lot at the casino.....morethan that difference for sure .....yes I know bad girl i amplatinum plus on NCL always treated great and usedto cruise 3-5 times per year ...eachone being a longer cruise .....Now since the rule changed .....double rate per cabin i was last on NCL last october and not been back since ..so no more 5-6 cruises per year .Tell me whose loss isit ??i refuse topay double and play as much ... go back to treating Casino players with good prices .....single occupancy rate ...your ships will fill up ...not to mention other $$$ .i spent on board treat us right we will be backonce this craziness calms down .Someone will need to research vaccines for this virus and get us healthy again real quick .I hope gov.t are spendingin the right direction ....invest insolutions i am confident noonewill go bankrupt ...strapped for cash for sure but hopefull by end of summer normal again i like NCL love cruising ...hope you bounce back ...and dont be greedy when you fo .Be nice to us loyal customers ...treat usright ..we will be back Like your ideas, but I hate to say it. they are not even close to reality. We cut NIH funding all the time. the vaccine will be a while before it hits the market. this is why we need to spend more money on the NIH. it is always strapped for cash. for every one dollar invested into the NIH, it produces 6. but politicians will never support it when they can't even agree that global climate change is real and affects the health of humans. ncl is cheap af. doing right by customers isn't always a priority for them. this is coming from someone who likes the ncl product the most out of all the companies. but i gotta call it like i see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vpearlkc Posted March 12, 2020 #136 Share Posted March 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Trimone said: If NCL did chapter 11, it would kill their customer base, just imagine all the cruise next vouchers, peoples cancellations credit, and let’s not forget the existing shareholders who have treated NCL like their own. Latitudes would be forgotten, with bankruptcy you have no preferences, you can’t just keep the good bits... I don't think cruise next vouchers would be affected as they don't have real cash value and encourage future cruising. As for Latitudes, There would be no reason to cut the program and run off their loyal customer base. Now the shareholders would definatly be affected as they would get wiped out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farts Posted March 12, 2020 #137 Share Posted March 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Trimone said: If NCL did chapter 11, it would kill their customer base, just imagine all the cruise next vouchers, peoples cancellations credit, and let’s not forget the existing shareholders who have treated NCL like their own. Latitudes would be forgotten, with bankruptcy you have no preferences, you can’t just keep the good bits... i am hoping that the cruise next vouchers will be honored if they restructure and remain ncl. it would be important to retain loyal customers. @roger001 has talked about share holders getting wiped out before during restructuring, which is par for the course per him and his fam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dexddd Posted March 12, 2020 #138 Share Posted March 12, 2020 1 hour ago, vpearlkc said: I don't think cruise next vouchers would be affected as they don't have real cash value and encourage future cruising. As for Latitudes, There would be no reason to cut the program and run off their loyal customer base. Now the shareholders would definatly be affected as they would get wiped out. They've already run off loyal customers. It's been the silent majority. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fstuff1 Posted March 12, 2020 #139 Share Posted March 12, 2020 2 hours ago, ziggyuk said: The pre market is currently sitting at $12.99 this morning, wowzers. 11% drop premarket for ncl.. ouch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stateroom_Sailor Posted March 12, 2020 #140 Share Posted March 12, 2020 4 hours ago, Trimone said: If NCL did chapter 11, it would kill their customer base, just imagine all the cruise next vouchers, peoples cancellations credit, and let’s not forget the existing shareholders who have treated NCL like their own. Latitudes would be forgotten, with bankruptcy you have no preferences, you can’t just keep the good bits... Amazing that within the course of just a few weeks, the cruise world as we know it could change forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ColeThornton Posted March 12, 2020 #141 Share Posted March 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, Stateroom_Sailor said: Amazing that within the course of just a few weeks, the cruise world as we know it could change forever. Or perhaps more appropriately take out the word "cruise" and the sentence would be more accurate. Strange times. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Georgia_Peaches Posted March 12, 2020 #142 Share Posted March 12, 2020 (edited) Deleted.. Edited March 12, 2020 by Georgia_Peaches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fstuff1 Posted March 12, 2020 #143 Share Posted March 12, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, fstuff1 said: 11% drop premarket for ncl.. ouch! now down to $10.93 premarket. -27% drop! Edited March 12, 2020 by fstuff1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roger001 Posted March 12, 2020 #144 Share Posted March 12, 2020 11 hours ago, fstuff1 said: whats your nephews qualifications to say that? 11 hours ago, roger001 said: A wild ass guess just like everyone else you might hear also. Roll the dice. That's what the market is about. This is actually what he said. Yes they will have no choice but to shed their debt via chapter 11. Likely they will wait to get debt at its max before filing. They are a good candidate for what is called a “pre-packaged” bankruptcy meaning they file their restructuring plan at the get go and are out of bankruptcy in 90 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fstuff1 Posted March 12, 2020 #145 Share Posted March 12, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, fstuff1 said: now down to $10.93 premarket. -27% drop! oh man .. rumor is that Princess will stop all operations for 60days! can ncl's cashflow (or lack thereof) survive 60days? Edited March 12, 2020 by fstuff1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NittanyCruise Posted March 12, 2020 #146 Share Posted March 12, 2020 (edited) I do feel kind of bad for the NCL brass. They were flying high just a month ago and now everything has turned on it's head. The stock price has fallen ~80% in one month and their source of revenue is going to locked indoors, with none of it their doing. Edited March 12, 2020 by NittanyCruise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isabella Benjamin Posted March 12, 2020 #147 Share Posted March 12, 2020 6 minutes ago, fstuff1 said: oh man .. rumor is that Princess will stop all operations for 60days! can ncl's cashflow (or lack thereof) survive 60days? That's what the new loan is for. They knew this was coming. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fstuff1 Posted March 12, 2020 #148 Share Posted March 12, 2020 41 minutes ago, fstuff1 said: now down to $10.93 premarket. -27% drop! ncl recovering somewhat after bell open. now $12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roger001 Posted March 12, 2020 #149 Share Posted March 12, 2020 Well...the market is open and the expected initial plunge is happening. NCL is down $3 at $12 and poor RCL is down $10.50 at $33. Serious decision time for some cruise lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isabella Benjamin Posted March 12, 2020 #150 Share Posted March 12, 2020 (edited) Trading shut down already this morning. How much fun is today going to be? Edited March 12, 2020 by Isabella Benjamin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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