Coralc Posted March 21, 2020 #101 Share Posted March 21, 2020 I think we probably have no clue at this point. There was supposed to be a whole Mediterranean season before our TA. That would be an awful lot of compensation. I think that we, along with the rest of the world, are just waiting right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norwich Cruiser Posted March 21, 2020 #102 Share Posted March 21, 2020 I am pretty sure that RCCL will make an official announcement very soon about the forthcoming Mediterranean season and update us on the amplification of both Allure and Explorer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandgeezer Posted March 21, 2020 #103 Share Posted March 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Norwich Cruiser said: I am pretty sure that RCCL will make an official announcement very soon about the forthcoming Mediterranean season and update us on the amplification of both Allure and Explorer. Like they did for the 30 day shutdown? Day before is close enough. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare little britain Posted March 21, 2020 #104 Share Posted March 21, 2020 Compensation!!?? Kick a dog when it’s down. Who would even think this 🤷♀️ Personally no ghastly purple slide, no extra cabins, no robot bars, Dazzles remains, the classy Champagne bar remains, and the CL remains which is all good news for me. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norwich Cruiser Posted March 21, 2020 #105 Share Posted March 21, 2020 25 minutes ago, little britain said: Compensation!!?? Kick a dog when it’s down. Who would even think this 🤷♀️ Personally no ghastly purple slide, no extra cabins, no robot bars, Dazzles remains, the classy Champagne bar remains, and the CL remains which is all good news for me. You’re maybe right but obviously others will have there opinions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norwich Cruiser Posted March 21, 2020 #106 Share Posted March 21, 2020 1 hour ago, grandgeezer said: Like they did for the 30 day shutdown? Day before is close enough. Hopefully learned a lesson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukrccl_a Posted March 21, 2020 #107 Share Posted March 21, 2020 32 minutes ago, little britain said: Compensation!!?? Kick a dog when it’s down. Who would even think this 🤷♀️ Personally no ghastly purple slide, no extra cabins, no robot bars, Dazzles remains, the classy Champagne bar remains, and the CL remains which is all good news for me. There isn't a CL on the Allure anymore (there is however a suite lounge on Deck 17) - though she will retain the excellent Diamond lounge on Decks 11/12 which was planned to be removed in the amplification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norwich Cruiser Posted March 21, 2020 #108 Share Posted March 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, irzero said: What lesson. No announcement and I know no cruises at least in europe for 60 days. Sent from my SM-N975F using Tapatalk Quite obvious really they maybe could have announced the 30 days a little earlier. But most cruise lines did it within 3 or 4 days of each other. These are quite unprecedented times we are living in and I think you should give RCCL and all cruise lines a bit of slack. You obviously have pretty good information if you already know that there will be no Europe/Mediterranean cruises for at least 60 days. A family member who is a dancer got released from there contract yesterday and have been given no official restart date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norwich Cruiser Posted March 21, 2020 #109 Share Posted March 21, 2020 48 minutes ago, little britain said: Compensation!!?? Kick a dog when it’s down. Who would even think this 🤷♀️ Personally no ghastly purple slide, no extra cabins, no robot bars, Dazzles remains, the classy Champagne bar remains, and the CL remains which is all good news for me. I think the concierge lounge is now the suite lounge but stand to be corrected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare little britain Posted March 21, 2020 #110 Share Posted March 21, 2020 24 minutes ago, ukrccl_a said: There isn't a CL on the Allure anymore (there is however a suite lounge on Deck 17) - though she will retain the excellent Diamond lounge on Decks 11/12 which was planned to be removed in the amplification. Sorry, my error. Yes I meant the wonderful DL with views over Broadwalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norwich Cruiser Posted March 21, 2020 #111 Share Posted March 21, 2020 15 minutes ago, little britain said: Sorry, my error. Yes I meant the wonderful DL with views over Broadwalk Excellent views much superior to deck four. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norwich Cruiser Posted March 21, 2020 #112 Share Posted March 21, 2020 27 minutes ago, irzero said: I'm more annoyed that they will want final payment from me on a cruise that I really dont see happening. I cannot cancel it as I'll lose the money paid for flights. I dont want to sail on the ship if it's not upgraded either and I shouldn't have to. If the amp is cancelled they should cancel all cruises and set new itineraries at new lower prices. No way they can stick to current itineraries anyway given they are Spain France and Italy. That isn't taking in to account flights or hotel problems that might scupper the trip even if royal somehow continues. They are in paralysis at the moment when really everyone knows that this summer they wont be sailing or docking anywhere in europe. Sent from my SM-N975F using Tapatalk I agree that it’s a real pain they will want final payment soon probably before any announcement but hoping RCCL will do the right thing and announce cancelling cruises earlier. I’m not certain as to what other ports of call Oasis class can dock at in Europe or the Mediterranean perhaps that’s what’s they are trying to sort out now should they continue with any sailings. But that begs the question of weather people will want to sail a different itinerary and the new pricing. I fully understand you not wanting to sail on the ship if it’s not been amplified as many people I believe would have booked it assuming it would be carried out. We also lose flights and hotels. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapau27 Posted March 21, 2020 #113 Share Posted March 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Norwich Cruiser said: I agree that it’s a real pain they will want final payment soon probably before any announcement but hoping RCCL will do the right thing and announce cancelling cruises earlier. I’m not certain as to what other ports of call Oasis class can dock at in Europe or the Mediterranean perhaps that’s what’s they are trying to sort out now should they continue with any sailings. But that begs the question of weather people will want to sail a different itinerary and the new pricing. I fully understand you not wanting to sail on the ship if it’s not been amplified as many people I believe would have booked it assuming it would be carried out. We also lose flights and hotels. We have the same predicament plus the government's advice on medical issues needs to be relaxed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pyrateslife4me84 Posted March 21, 2020 #114 Share Posted March 21, 2020 8 hours ago, grandgeezer said: Yes it is. No, it really isn’t. "Both amplifications have been put on hold at this time. With global developments rapidly evolving, we are reviewing all options to bring Explorer and Allure into dry dock this year and determining the extent of the enhancements we can make." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocean Boy Posted March 21, 2020 #115 Share Posted March 21, 2020 8 hours ago, suizas said: So any thoughts as to those that booked Allure in the Med or on the TA expecting a newer “Amplified ” ship? Partial refund, or FCC?? Seems fair that as the product will be less than what was advertised and sold as, that perhaps there will be some sort of compensation.? Since the cruise contract states that the cruise line can actually substitite one ship for another maybe you should just be happy that you are getting an Oasis class ship and not Empress.😉 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milwaukee Eight Posted March 21, 2020 #116 Share Posted March 21, 2020 I’m hoping they will rename the Diamond Lounge to Pinnacle Club. Move the Diamond sign down to deck 4. Limit SL/CK to only those in GS or higher. This would be great for Presidents Cruise In October (if it still happens). This and the TA that is scheduled to follow will be very top heavy. In my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovemylab Posted March 21, 2020 #117 Share Posted March 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Ocean Boy said: Since the cruise contract states that the cruise line can actually substitite one ship for another maybe you should just be happy that you are getting an Oasis class ship and not Empress.😉 Regardless of what the contract states, people are still allowed to be upset with this change. I have the Explorer booked for October and it was advertsed as an amplified ship and the price reflected that. When I go to Royals website they are still advertising the upgrades on the Explorer. Given the current economy and all the negative press surrouding cruising, I think the last thing any cruiseline should be doing right now is pissing off their current clients. Offering a small onboard credit or some form of compensation to those already booked would be a good gesture. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milwaukee Eight Posted March 21, 2020 #118 Share Posted March 21, 2020 1 minute ago, irzero said: You wouldnt accept a trip to Disneyland Paris when you paid for a trip to Disneyland Miami just because of some unforeseen circumstances. There is no Disneyland in Miami. Only in Anaheim CA. There is a Disney World in Orlando. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milwaukee Eight Posted March 21, 2020 #119 Share Posted March 21, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, irzero said: i remember going to one in Miami when i was a kid so im guessing its the world one. But thanks for that. The difference between world and land was exactly the point of my post. I was born in Miami and lived here all my life and NEVER do I recall anything Disney in Miami and I am old. Miami to Orlando (WDW) is 240 miles. Edited March 21, 2020 by Milwaukee Eight 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovemylab Posted March 21, 2020 #120 Share Posted March 21, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Milwaukee Eight said: I was born in Miami and lived here all my life and NEVER do I recall anything Disney in Miami and I am old. Miami to Orlando (WDW) is 240 miles. You are completely missing their point. The discussion is not about the location of Disney parks. It's about Royal Caribbean advertising one thing (and charging a higher price for that) and then delivering something completely different. Edited March 21, 2020 by lovemylab 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ourusualbeach Posted March 21, 2020 #121 Share Posted March 21, 2020 6 hours ago, Norwich Cruiser said: Quite obvious really they maybe could have announced the 30 days a little earlier. But most cruise lines did it within 3 or 4 days of each other. Other than Princess and a couple of upscale lines the mass market cruise lines all made their announcement within hours of each other last Friday at the request of the government earlier that day. It caught them off guard as much as it did us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ourusualbeach Posted March 21, 2020 #122 Share Posted March 21, 2020 1 hour ago, lovemylab said: Regardless of what the contract states, people are still allowed to be upset with this change. I have the Explorer booked for October and it was advertsed as an amplified ship and the price reflected that. When I go to Royals website they are still advertising the upgrades on the Explorer. Given the current economy and all the negative press surrouding cruising, I think the last thing any cruiseline should be doing right now is pissing off their current clients. Offering a small onboard credit or some form of compensation to those already booked would be a good gesture. You are long before final payment, you can cancel if you wish.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LXA350 Posted March 21, 2020 #123 Share Posted March 21, 2020 (edited) 11 hours ago, suizas said: So any thoughts as to those that booked Allure in the Med or on the TA expecting a newer “Amplified ” ship? Partial refund, or FCC?? Seems fair that as the product will be less than what was advertised and sold as, that perhaps there will be some sort of compensation.? RCL needs to go ahead with the amplification at least on Allure while she is in Europe, hence I wouldn't be suprised to see the transatlantic cancelled + a few caribbean cruises in case they will push the dry dock to after the european season simmilar to Oasis. On the other hand, I am speculating that only by July 1st a normal cruise operation will be possible in Europe hence, if somehow possible the Amplification can be delayed, but even there with the current situation in Spain works can possibly only beging earliest end of april. Regarding compensation should the ship not get amped, then I guess depending on cabins booked the best deal also for the company would be to provide non refundable OBC ranging from USD 50 - USD 200 per person. Edited March 21, 2020 by LXA350 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocean Boy Posted March 21, 2020 #124 Share Posted March 21, 2020 40 minutes ago, irzero said: i remember going to one in Miami when i was a kid so im guessing its the world one. 32 minutes ago, irzero said: I never said it was. We went to Miami and traveled around Florida. I think you have a very short memory. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milwaukee Eight Posted March 21, 2020 #125 Share Posted March 21, 2020 8 minutes ago, Ocean Boy said: I think you have a very short memory. I wish I had the multiple quote thing down. But thanks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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