Predict when cruising will start again post-Coronavirus

[Porky55]

5 hours ago, OzKiwiJJ said:

It's easy to say "those people should have come home earlier" but many may have been in circumstances where they couldn't just pack up and go and now some of those people are stranded.

No doubt true - but over 12 months?
I think it is like Mic said - we have Aussies returning after just 3 months away.  What’s that about 🙄

[NSWP]

7 hours ago, possum52 said:

Who would supervise the two weeks quarantine before they boarded a flight back to Australia? 

 

Leigh

The poms, user pay.

[OzKiwiJJ]

19 minutes ago, Porky55 said:

No doubt true - but over 12 months?
I think it is like Mic said - we have Aussies returning after just 3 months away.  What’s that about 🙄

Yes, some people have been trying to get back for months.

 

The Aussies returning after just three months away would have to be those who got exemptions to travel, presumably for business reasons although some may have been for compassionate reasons. The business travellers probably swan back in on their business class airfares while others get bumped yet again.

[MicCanberra]

https://www.abs.gov.au/statistics/industry/tourism-and-transport/overseas-travel-statistics-provisional/feb-2021

In the last 11 months April 2020 -February 2021 139,900 Australian passport holders arrived back, with 111,100 departed.

[possum52]

2 hours ago, NSWP said:

The poms, user pay.

Why the poms Les? Returnee travellers are not just coming from the UK. I doubt any nation is going to organise or supervise quarantine for travellers leaving the country.

 

Leigh

[NSWP]

11 hours ago, possum52 said:

Why the poms Les? Returnee travellers are not just coming from the UK. I doubt any nation is going to organise or supervise quarantine for travellers leaving the country.

 

Leigh

Well the country of departure does the quarantine and the passenger pays. Amazing numbers 111,100 departed. It is not that hard to get a travel exemption, but getting a plane seat and at a reasonable price is the challenge, in and out of oz.

[Chiliburn]

17 hours ago, MicCanberra said:

https://www.abs.gov.au/statistics/industry/tourism-and-transport/overseas-travel-statistics-provisional/feb-2021

In the last 11 months April 2020 -February 2021 139,900 Australian passport holders arrived back, with 111,100 departed.

No wonder there’s a backlog.

My niece went twice to see her boyfriend .She got there and had a fight and wanted to come home.

[NSWP]

6 hours ago, Chiliburn said:

No wonder there’s a backlog.

My niece went twice to see her boyfriend .She got there and had a fight and wanted to come home.

My son has travelled to London and Lima in the past year re important chimu business, he quarantined both times, no worries. Life has to go on.

[NSWP]

32 minutes ago, NSWP said:

My son has travelled to London and Lima in the past year re important chimu business, he quarantined both times, no worries. Life has to go on.

I forgot to add, he had to go there to try and save the business and jobs. Today job seeker payments end, so tomorrow the unpleasant job of letting 60 odd employees go.

[MMDown Under]

11 minutes ago, NSWP said:

I forgot to add, he had to go there to try and save the business and jobs. Today job seeker payments end, so tomorrow the unpleasant job of letting 60 odd employees go.

That will be difficult for him and lots of other businesses in the same situation.  

[Chiliburn]

This will hurry The Australian government along ,if it doesn’t looks like a trip to Singapore.

 

https://cruisepassenger.com.au/aussies-welcome-to-sail-with-royal-caribbean-in-singapores-bubble-says-boss/

[MicCanberra]

if only we can get out and back without quarantine.

[Chiliburn]

I don’t care ,I just want my 5 free drinks and the $25 specialty dining voucher.

[LittleFish1976]

On 3/28/2021 at 12:21 PM, Chiliburn said:

No wonder there’s a backlog.

My niece went twice to see her boyfriend .She got there and had a fight and wanted to come home.

 

And then there are those of us who have not gone overseas, because we were told we shouldn't and couldn't, despite missing family members terribly, and even family members who were grieving awful losses. I'm amazed that people have been given permission to leave the country at all, let alone twice, to visit a partner.

 

I also think it's a bit rich when people who have been living overseas for years, in some cases decades, suddenly become 'stranded Aussies'.

 

[NSWP]

9 minutes ago, LittleFish1976 said:

 

And then there are those of us who have not gone overseas, because we were told we shouldn't and couldn't, despite missing family members terribly, and even family members who were grieving awful losses. I'm amazed that people have been given permission to leave the country at all, let alone twice, to visit a partner.

 

I also think it's a bit rich when people who have been living overseas for years, in some cases decades, suddenly become 'stranded Aussies'.

 

Agree. I was talking to a lady at our Probus Club this morning, her son, who holds dual British and Australian Citizenship and was working in UK has allegedly been put at the bottom of the list for repat flights, the reason given? 'Because he has dual nationality.'

 

I find that scenario a bit strange.

[MicCanberra]

I am not saying there are no genuine cases of stranded aussies still, but it seems to me many have become stranded well after Covid first impacted and shut borders. They either made the decision to leave the Australia (for whatever reason) and then couldn't return easily, or were already overseas long term and have had their circumstances changed recently and now find themselves in trouble.

[ilikeanswers]

1 minute ago, MicCanberra said:

were already overseas long term and have had their circumstances changed recently and now find themselves in trouble.

 

Those people I do think of as stranded. I remember when I left Japan last March they were saying by July everything would be fine. Some of the people I met on my flight back were saying their co workers whose contracts didn't end till this year chose not to fly back because they were assuming everything would be normal by this year. No one was expecting the borders to be closed for this long and certainly didn't help that you had politicians constantly saying by so and so month things will be open😬. It makes it hard to plan anything. 

[Docker123]

24 minutes ago, MicCanberra said:

I am not saying there are no genuine cases of stranded aussies still, but it seems to me many have become stranded well after Covid first impacted and shut borders. They either made the decision to leave the Australia (for whatever reason) and then couldn't return easily, or were already overseas long term and have had their circumstances changed recently and now find themselves in trouble.

People are overseas for various reasons and lengths of time. It is not always simple to say that I’m off home now.

 

I did my postgraduate studies in America. It would not have been easy to pick up and come back with half my research completed. 

 

Many medical specialists do extended training overseas. Cant come back part way through learning really advanced techniques.

 

A lot of people found the jobs they had no longer there — and like many in Australia on temporary visas — so they had to try and come home.

 

[Docker123]

Well, with a new Minister for Border Security perhaps we will get some more empathy in that role.

 

Karen Andrews. Any ideas?

 

[Chiliburn]

1 hour ago, LittleFish1976 said:

 

And then there are those of us who have not gone overseas, because we were told we shouldn't and couldn't, despite missing family members terribly, and even family members who were grieving awful losses. I'm amazed that people have been given permission to leave the country at all, let alone twice, to visit a partner.

 

I also think it's a bit rich when people who have been living overseas for years, in some cases decades, suddenly become 'stranded Aussies'.

 

Apparently there’s a housing shortage in Sydney because of expats returning.

But as for going overseas and getting stuck in a hotel with the virus.

 I’ll stay here.

[mr walker]

56 minutes ago, ilikeanswers said:

 

 No one was expecting the borders to be closed for this long and certainly didn't help that you had politicians constantly saying by so and so month things will be open😬. It makes it hard to plan anything. 

I have been under the impression from Mar 15th 2020 that the official line was that it was going to be a very long time before borders were open etc. Not sure where the idea that this has been any longer than early expectations.

[MMDown Under]

58 minutes ago, Docker123 said:

Well, with a new Minister for Border Security perhaps we will get some more empathy in that role.

 

Karen Andrews. Any ideas?

 

I think Karen Andrews will be a big improvement on Peter Dutton.  He has long wanted Defence, so he'll be happy.  

[MicCanberra]

1 hour ago, Docker123 said:

People are overseas for various reasons and lengths of time. It is not always simple to say that I’m off home now.

 

I did my postgraduate studies in America. It would not have been easy to pick up and come back with half my research completed. 

 

Many medical specialists do extended training overseas. Cant come back part way through learning really advanced techniques.

 

A lot of people found the jobs they had no longer there — and like many in Australia on temporary visas — so they had to try and come home.

 

Exactly

[NSWP]

13 hours ago, MMDown Under said:

I think Karen Andrews will be a big improvement on Peter Dutton.  He has long wanted Defence, so he'll be happy.  

Peter Dutton is a former Qld 👮‍♀️ police officer. I think he will go ok as Defence Minister, he is a resilient person.

[Cruisegroover]

 P&O Cruises Australia’s President Sture Myrmell has an update on operations:

 

We remain positive about a pathway for cruising’s return as society opens up. As we work towards this goal, it has still been necessary to take a practical approach by extending our pause in guest operations until 30 July, 2021 (inclusive).

 

It has also become necessary to cancel voyages to Papua New Guinea and the Solomon Islands for the remainder of the year given the uncertainty around international borders in our region. This unfortunately also means the cancellation of this year’s Cairns cruise season where Pacific Explorer was to have been based for two months from October.

 

We are sorry that some guests will be unavoidably inconvenienced by these changes and we apologise for this. Our team will make direct contact with all those guests who are affected to assist with alternative arrangements.

 

As always, thank you for your patience and understanding and especially for your continued loyalty to P&O Cruises. We can’t wait to welcome you onboard to offer an amazing cruise holiday experience when we are again able to sail.