Alaska Cruises Cancelled for 2021

[jhannah]

Just learned that Holland America (and Princess) have cancelled all of this year's sailings to Alaska. How sad Canada powers-that-be are doing this! It's hurting so many people, in Canada as well as Alaska. If you want to move your booking to 2022, better do it quickly before those sailings fill up.

Edited February 25, 2021 by jhannah

[cruiserchuck]

I read that only the ones sailing to or from a Canadian port have been cancelled.  So the cruises to/from Seattle are still on schedule (for now.)

 

https://www.hollandamerica.com/en_US/news/impacted-cruises.html

 

 

 

Edited February 25, 2021 by cruiserchuck

[Unlvswezel]

As i understood it from the HAL blog, only cruises sailing to or from Canadian ports are currently cancelled. While its likely that because of the PSVA all others will eventually get axed, the blog states that HAL is working with the US and Canadian governments to address the issue. 

[kazu]

51 minutes ago, cruiserchuck said:

I read that only the ones sailing to or from a Canadian port have been cancelled.  So the cruises to/from Seattle are still on schedule (for now.)

 

https://www.hollandamerica.com/en_US/news/impacted-cruises.html

 

 

 

 

21 minutes ago, Unlvswezel said:

As i understood it from the HAL blog, only cruises sailing to or from Canadian ports are currently cancelled. While its likely that because of the PSVA all others will eventually get axed, the blog states that HAL is working with the US and Canadian governments to address the issue. 

 

Absolutely correct 

 

 

Looks like we are going to have a lot of Alaska threads on the boards.

 

@jhannahUnder the current circumstances, Canada didn’t have a lot of choice.  If things improve, the order may be cancelled but there is a ways to go before that happens, sadly.  

[KirkNC]

I think we now have three threads on this topic.......

[nocl]

18 minutes ago, KirkNC said:

I think we now have three threads on this topic.......

If we try hard we can make it a half dozen.

[HappyInVan]

1 hour ago, jhannah said:

If you want to move your booking to 2022, better do it quickly before those sailings fill up.

 

Thanks. Already booked for May 2022, back in December. 👍

[RD64]

Why do people continually blame Canada? After all - it is an AMERICAN law that prevents the round trip cruises from Seattle, and cruises to nowhere.

[CruiserBruce]

51 minutes ago, RD64 said:

Why do people continually blame Canada? After all - it is an AMERICAN law that prevents the round trip cruises from Seattle, and cruises to nowhere.

Canada has similar cabotage laws. They just don't apply to this situation. 

[YXU AC*SE]

27 minutes ago, CruiserBruce said:

Canada has similar cabotage laws. 

 

https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/PDF/C-33.3.pdf    Scott. 

 

 

[GateGuardian]

There's no need for covid test or quarantine anymore to fly into Alaska, so if you really want to explore Alaska, consider booking a land trip.

 

I would say this would be the best year to go as there would be less tourist there.

[Turtles06]

13 hours ago, jhannah said:

Just learned that Holland America (and Princess) have cancelled all of this year's sailings to Alaska. How sad Canada powers-that-be are doing this! 

Canada is not “doing this,” an American statute is doing this.  Canada is acting to protect its citizens from a deadly virus. 

[ontheweb]

17 hours ago, jhannah said:

Just learned that Holland America (and Princess) have cancelled all of this year's sailings to Alaska. How sad Canada powers-that-be are doing this! It's hurting so many people, in Canada as well as Alaska. If you want to move your booking to 2022, better do it quickly before those sailings fill up.

There are no cruises from Florida, NY, Texas, and California. Do you also blame Canada for that?

[BJzink]

17 hours ago, cruiserchuck said:

I read that only the ones sailing to or from a Canadian port have been cancelled.  So the cruises to/from Seattle are still on schedule (for now.)

 

https://www.hollandamerica.com/en_US/news/impacted-cruises.html

 

 

 

Don't the Seattle cruises stop in Victoria?

[Cruise Suzy]

9 minutes ago, BJzink said:

Don't the Seattle cruises stop in Victoria?

Yes. That's why HAL said negotiations are still ongoing for them. Those cruises currently can't be booked and are not on the Website, but they haven't been canceled - yet.

[david,Mississauga]

19 hours ago, jhannah said:

Just learned that Holland America (and Princess) have cancelled all of this year's sailings to Alaska. How sad Canada powers-that-be are doing this! It's hurting so many people, in Canada as well as Alaska. If you want to move your booking to 2022, better do it quickly before those sailings fill up.

 

Good grief, you make it sound like the Canadian government is deliberately hurting people. These ports are Canadian and the government has every right - and responsibility - to protect Canadians.  The rate of COVID-19 infection and the death rate in Canada are considerably less than many other countries, including the U.S. and the U.K.

 

Remember, the ban on cruise ships is not absolute. There is the provision that it can be lifted earlier depending on the pandemic. I appreciate cruise lines can't wait an indefinite time to decide what to do with their ships in summer and autumn.  There is no simple solution to this complex issue.

[HappyInVan]

59 minutes ago, david,Mississauga said:

 

Good grief, you make it sound like the Canadian government is deliberately hurting people. These ports are Canadian and the government has every right - and responsibility - to protect Canadians.  The rate of COVID-19 infection and the death rate in Canada are considerably less than many other countries, including the U.S. and the U.K.

 

 

Absolutely right.

 

IMHO, most Canadians support the tough measures taken by the Canadian governments. The blame belongs to the people who get themselves infected, and infect others.

 

I'm alarmed by the casualties in some jurisdictions. Once covid is equally under control, borders can reopen. Cruises can sail again.

 

To remove any doubt, you can check the chart to identify your jurisdiction...

 

 

[groundloop]

3 hours ago, HappyInVan said:

 

 

Absolutely right.

 

IMHO, most Canadians support the tough measures taken by the Canadian governments. The blame belongs to the people who get themselves infected, and infect others.

 

I'm alarmed by the casualties in some jurisdictions. Once covid is equally under control, borders can reopen. Cruises can sail again.

 

To remove any doubt, you can check the chart to identify your jurisdiction...

 

 

 

Another little inconvenient fact is that we (the US) have about 4% of the worlds population, yet account for over 20% of the worlds deaths from Covid.  That says a ton about how our government mishandled the epidemic early on. 

 

I don't blame Canada one bit for doing what they can to protect their citizens.  

 

I'm looking forward to getting back on a cruise ship and being spoiled, and were booked for an Alaska cruise on HAL in June.  I've already rescheduled that for 2022 since I don't see it happening this year.  As much as I want to get back to cruising, I can wait a bit longer until I know we can all do it safely.

Edited February 26, 2021 by groundloop

[cruiserchuck]

9 hours ago, HappyInVan said:

 

 

Absolutely right.

 

IMHO, most Canadians support the tough measures taken by the Canadian governments. The blame belongs to the people who get themselves infected, and infect others.

 

I'm alarmed by the casualties in some jurisdictions. Once covid is equally under control, borders can reopen. Cruises can sail again.

 

To remove any doubt, you can check the chart to identify your jurisdiction...

 

 

So Quebec has a higher death rate than California?  Everyone is freaking out here in California.  I thought things were better in Canada.

[KirkNC]

2 hours ago, cruiserchuck said:

So Quebec has a higher death rate than California?  Everyone is freaking out here in California.  I thought things were better in Canada.

A bit surprising to me as well.  I bet California has a higher # of cases per million.

[cruising cockroach]

4 hours ago, cruiserchuck said:

So Quebec has a higher death rate than California?  Everyone is freaking out here in California.  I thought things were better in Canada.

 

1 hour ago, KirkNC said:

A bit surprising to me as well.  I bet California has a higher # of cases per million.

 

Median age in Québéc is nearly 42 years, while California's median is 37.  The 5 years must make a difference.

[kazu]

10 hours ago, cruiserchuck said:

So Quebec has a higher death rate than California?  Everyone is freaking out here in California.  I thought things were better in Canada.

 

8 hours ago, KirkNC said:

A bit surprising to me as well.  I bet California has a higher # of cases per million.

 

Yes, Quebec has major problems with covid.  It has nearly 3 times the deaths that Ontario has despite being a much smaller province population wise.

 

Quebec has a different culture from the rest of Canada.  Many Quebecois did not want restrictive rules and give up their lifestyle and their premier was slow to enact some of the regulations needed and quicker to re-open.

 

Here is an article from the Montreal Gazette in October which helps to explain a bit - https://montrealgazette.com/news/quebec/why-does-quebec-have-more-covid-19-cases-than-ontario

 

It’s one of the reasons New Brunswick quickly closed it’s borders to western Canada.  

 

[d9704011]

26 minutes ago, kazu said:

 

 

Yes, Quebec has major problems with covid.  It has nearly 3 times the deaths that Ontario has despite being a much smaller province population wise.

 

Quebec has a different culture from the rest of Canada.  Many Quebecois did not want restrictive rules and give up their lifestyle and their premier was slow to enact some of the regulations needed and quicker to re-open.

 

Here is an article from the Montreal Gazette in October which helps to explain a bit - https://montrealgazette.com/news/quebec/why-does-quebec-have-more-covid-19-cases-than-ontario

 

It’s one of the reasons New Brunswick quickly closed it’s borders to western Canada.  

 

This is so wrong, derogatory and grossly outdated that it’s not worth the time nor effort to correct or put in perspective.

[HappyInVan]

4 hours ago, kazu said:

 

 

Yes, Quebec has major problems with covid.  It has nearly 3 times the deaths that Ontario has despite being a much smaller province population wise.

 

 

The numbers don't lie. Nonetheless, the current situation has changed.

 

IN the last 14 days, the number of cases per capita for ON, QC and BC are similar!

 

https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid-19/dashboard/?stat=num&measure=total_last14&map=pt&f=true#a2

 

This convergence reflects an emerging consensus among Canadians about covid. We are uniting in our desire to defeat covid, and to seal the borders. That makes us different from our neighbours.

 

Attitudes are hardening. As seen in this case...

 

"CEO of Canada's top pension fund resigns after getting Covid-19 shot abroad"

 

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/02/26/canada-pension-ceo-resigns-covid-vaccine-471736

 

[iancal]

What is it about the covid numbers that people do not seem to understand or want to comprehend????  Either in their own location or in other parts of the world. 

 

Simply because a person happens to have been fortunate enough to get both covid vaccinations does not mean that worldwide cruising will start up next month or even in the next 90 days.

Edited February 28, 2021 by iancal