Cru1s1ng2009 Posted March 11, 2015 #1 Share Posted March 11, 2015 does anyone know that stats on how many live and how many don't? We are arguing at work over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micheecruise Posted March 11, 2015 #2 Share Posted March 11, 2015 I don't have "stats", but I would think that most do not survive. If it was day light, seen and reported immediately, there may be a chance, but otherwise your odds are slim. IMHO ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbjboyle Posted March 11, 2015 #3 Share Posted March 11, 2015 These are lists of known occurrences; http://www.cruiseserver.net/travelpage/other/man_overboard.asp http://www.cruisejunkie.com/Overboard.html and you could always "Google" a page for cruise ship deaths . com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cru1s1ng2009 Posted March 11, 2015 Author #4 Share Posted March 11, 2015 I don't have "stats", but I would think that most do not survive. If it was day light, seen and reported immediately, there may be a chance, but otherwise your odds are slim. IMHO ;) That's what I'm thinking too but others think most survive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryano Posted March 11, 2015 #5 Share Posted March 11, 2015 (edited) I really despise the words "fall off" when it comes to these stories. Its about impossible to "fall off" a cruise ship unless you are doing something really stupid or trying to kill yourself via suicide. Sadly, this is the term the media uses and the general non cruising public believes it. I cant tell you how many times Ive been asked "arent you worried about falling off the ship?" :rolleyes: Edited March 11, 2015 by ryano Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ourusualbeach Posted March 11, 2015 #6 Share Posted March 11, 2015 One does not just unintentionally "fall" off a ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voyager70 Posted March 11, 2015 #7 Share Posted March 11, 2015 I really despise the words "fall off" when it comes to these stories. Its about impossible to "fall off" a cruise ship unless you are doing something really stupid or trying to kill yourself via suicide. Sadly, this is the term the media uses and the general non cruising public believes it. I cant tell you how many times Ive been asked "arent you worried about falling off the ship?" :rolleyes: Same here. Also went on a cruise days after the Concordia tragedy and was asked my several people "aren't you afraid of your ship sinking?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted March 11, 2015 #8 Share Posted March 11, 2015 via Imgflip Meme Maker What he said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restless24 Posted March 11, 2015 #9 Share Posted March 11, 2015 via Imgflip Meme Maker What he said Lolol... this meme was the first thing I thought of when I read "one does not". Funny to see someone else made the connection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvnola66 Posted March 11, 2015 #10 Share Posted March 11, 2015 I just read an article about this on Yahoo posted by Fox News http://www.foxnews.com/travel/2015/03/09/what-happens-when-someone-falls-off-cruise-ship/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desertbelle Posted March 11, 2015 #11 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Much depends on how high the fall is, if the person hits any of the ship structure on the way down and what condition the person falling is in before the fall. A drunk, falling from the 12th deck, hitting the edge of a lifeboat on the way down is going to die. A goofball college kid falling from the 7th deck trying to climb over to the next cabin and hits the water without hitting anything else will probably do ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted March 11, 2015 #12 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Much depends on how high the fall is, if the person hits any of the ship structure on the way down and what condition the person falling is in before the fall. A drunk, falling from the 12th deck, hitting the edge of a lifeboat on the way down is going to die. A goofball college kid falling from the 7th deck trying to climb over to the next cabin and hits the water without hitting anything else will probably do ok. That's not necessarily true. Hitting the water from any height is dangerous, just ask platform divers. There are approved ways of jumping into the ocean from ships that prevent the head from snapping back and breaking the neck. And that is jumping upright; if you "belly flop", your chance of breaking your neck increases by magnitudes. However, drink can affect these outcomes, just like it does in car crashes. I haven't researched the statistics, but my gut feeling is that less than 30% are rescued alive. Even in daylight, searching for something as small as a human head in seas is nearly impossible. And that's assuming you have returned to the exact site of the overboard and have factored wind and current properly to narrow your search area. If you go to the thread on the young man who went overboard on Glory, you will see posts by myself and some former USCG members about the difficulty in locating man overboard dummies during drills. Even in the Caribbean, hypothermia is a serious danger, as the water transfers heat 6 times as fast as air, and the water is nowhere near your core body temperature. While it isn't as quick as in Northern waters, it will still kill you in a few hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reallyitsmema Posted March 11, 2015 #13 Share Posted March 11, 2015 I really despise the words "fall off" when it comes to these stories. Its about impossible to "fall off" a cruise ship unless you are doing something really stupid or trying to kill yourself via suicide. Sadly, this is the term the media uses and the general non cruising public believes it. I cant tell you how many times Ive been asked "arent you worried about falling off the ship?" :rolleyes: The one story I remember in the news in recent years about someone "falling off" a cruise ship was the couple that were joining the balcony club and lost their balance.:eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cru1s1ng2009 Posted March 11, 2015 Author #14 Share Posted March 11, 2015 I really despise the words "fall off" when it comes to these stories. Its about impossible to "fall off" a cruise ship unless you are doing something really stupid or trying to kill yourself via suicide. Sadly, this is the term the media uses and the general non cruising public believes it. I cant tell you how many times Ive been asked "arent you worried about falling off the ship?" :rolleyes: You are 100% correct. I shouldn't have called it that. My point to my co-workers was it is impossible unless you intend to do it or are doing something stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cru1s1ng2009 Posted March 11, 2015 Author #15 Share Posted March 11, 2015 via Imgflip Meme Maker What he said hahahahahaha!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TXBBQDUDE Posted March 11, 2015 #16 Share Posted March 11, 2015 I knew a young man that jumped off a cruise ship a few years ago. He was my next door neighbor and was involved in a hate crime against him he had just testified in congress for stricter sentences for hate crime victims. I believe that 99% of "falls" are intentional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare broberts Posted March 11, 2015 #17 Share Posted March 11, 2015 That's what I'm thinking too but others think most survive. Ask them how many people survive falling from a 6 - 10 story building. Of those, how many are able to immediately move their hands and legs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39august Posted March 11, 2015 #18 Share Posted March 11, 2015 I just witnessed two young women on deck 12 of NOS last week standing on lounge chairs to lean over the railing as far as possible. I said to my husband that those two were candidates for "falls off a cruise ship". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted March 11, 2015 #19 Share Posted March 11, 2015 I just witnessed two young women on deck 12 of NOS last week standing on lounge chairs to lean over the railing as far as possible. I said to my husband that those two were candidates for "falls off a cruise ship". Also candidates for the Darwin award. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treven Posted March 11, 2015 #20 Share Posted March 11, 2015 I really despise the words "fall off" when it comes to these stories. Its about impossible to "fall off" a cruise ship unless you are doing something really stupid or trying to kill yourself via suicide. Sadly, this is the term the media uses and the general non cruising public believes it. I cant tell you how many times Ive been asked "arent you worried about falling off the ship?" :rolleyes: I totally agree. Baring doing something stoopid and/or drunk, it's impossible to "fall off", as you stated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gooch47 Posted March 11, 2015 #21 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Last cruise I watched a man let his young daughter (maybe 8 years old) stand on a chair next to the balcony railing leaning over watching the water. He was standing at least five feet away from her. I was afraid to call out to him for fear it would startle her. Luckily momma came out and put a stop to it. My husband and I have joked about throwing the other overboard. Couldn't happen nor could you fall over by accident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUT2407 Posted March 11, 2015 #22 Share Posted March 11, 2015 One does not just unintentionally "fall" off a ship. Not totally correct some do because they are doing stupid things, like climbing from balcony yo balcony or having sex on the balcony rail, yes I know it happened on one cruise I was on, she was lucky and landed on a canvas cover a few decks down. Booze can also be a contributing factor, to people doing stupid things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cb at sea Posted March 11, 2015 #23 Share Posted March 11, 2015 This is too funny..You don't "fall" off a ship...you jump! If you're so drunk you're climbing on railings, I don't consider that a "fall". It's intentional, in that you don't care enough about your safety to stay sober enough to not do stupid things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughing Angel Posted March 12, 2015 #24 Share Posted March 12, 2015 I'm asked this all of the time (my co-workers know I love to cruise). I tell them that you have to work hard and exert real energy and movement to fall (jump) overboard. More often than not it involves being over served and being involved in reckless behavior. It is definitely no accident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cru1s1ng2009 Posted March 12, 2015 Author #25 Share Posted March 12, 2015 This is too funny..You don't "fall" off a ship...you jump! If you're so drunk you're climbing on railings, I don't consider that a "fall". It's intentional, in that you don't care enough about your safety to stay sober enough to not do stupid things. Yes, it is not fall, it is a fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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