buggins0402 Posted September 9, 2017 #1 Share Posted September 9, 2017 http://www.miamiherald.com/news/weather/hurricane/article172281352.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easyboy Posted September 9, 2017 #2 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Good to know that the cruise lines have social concerns, not just plain business. Sent from my iPad using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Keith1010 Posted September 9, 2017 #3 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Great news. Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sail7seas Posted September 9, 2017 #4 Share Posted September 9, 2017 I hope they pitch in with some of the ports to help in rebuilding. The cruise lines need these island s and the islands need the cruise ships. Without restored infrastructure, the ships may not be able to sell many excursions oor get interest of cruisers to book cruises stopping at islands with severe damage.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leaveitallbehind Posted September 9, 2017 #5 Share Posted September 9, 2017 This is not a widely known fact, unfortunately, but the cruise lines will use their ships to aid in relief deliveries where possible. Often they are criticized for continuing business as soon as possible after disasters such as this occur as it is not realized that they are providing aid as well. As example, a few years ago with the severe earthquake in Haiti, RCI and Celebrity continued their port of call at Labadee where with each docking they were unloading pallets of relief supplies that were then trucked to the damage zone. I know this first hand as we were on such an itinerary several weeks after the earthquake and witnessed this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhsails Posted September 10, 2017 #6 Share Posted September 10, 2017 We've been cruising since early 80's and the major lines have always done this since at least then. We're in Hawaii when a fishing ship and freighter crashed, Princess rerouted to help rescue. Look how frequently they hovto help when a passenger his overboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krazy Kruizers Posted September 10, 2017 #7 Share Posted September 10, 2017 Wonderful news!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pseudoware Posted September 10, 2017 #8 Share Posted September 10, 2017 Good to know that the cruise lines have social concerns, not just plain business. Sent from my iPad using Forums They've succumb to pier pressure. Sent from my SM-G950U1 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfaaa Posted September 10, 2017 #9 Share Posted September 10, 2017 So where is the UN ? Nowhere to be seen as usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leaveitallbehind Posted September 10, 2017 #10 Share Posted September 10, 2017 So where is the UN ? Nowhere to be seen as usual. Where do you think they should be? The Dutch and French govern St. Martin, the US supports the US Virgin Islands, Great Britain supports the British Virgin Islands and Turks and Caicos. Wouldn't those nations be responsible to provide aid to those islands? Only Antigua and Barbuda are independent. And even if the UN were deemed responsible to assist, don't you think it may take a few days to organize a relief effort? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LHT28 Posted September 10, 2017 #11 Share Posted September 10, 2017 We've been cruising since early 80's and the major lines have always done this since at least then. We're in Hawaii when a fishing ship and freighter crashed, Princess rerouted to help rescue. Look how frequently they hovto help when a passenger his overboard. That is part of the rules of the sea Maritime Law Closest ship MUST go to the rescue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruiserBruce Posted September 10, 2017 #12 Share Posted September 10, 2017 So where is the UN ? Nowhere to be seen as usual. And you know this factually, or just because you haven't seen them on the news? You know that any action the UN takes is by approval of, and funded by, the member countries. The UN doesn't have a stack of money just sitting around for disaster relief, unless the member countries fund it, and approve the spending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Extra Kim Posted September 10, 2017 #13 Share Posted September 10, 2017 This is not a widely known fact, unfortunately, but the cruise lines will use their ships to aid in relief deliveries where possible. Often they are criticized for continuing business as soon as possible after disasters such as this occur as it is not realized that they are providing aid as well. After the tsunami in 2004 one of the biggest problems in Thailand and other places in Asia where tourism is one of the biggest income source was that the tourism didn't pick up again the months after the tsunami. Thailand is one of the biggest holiday destinations for Swedes during the winter, but a lot of people didn't go because they thought that it wouldn't be morally right to do so. But in the end the people of Thailand got another set back because of it. The Caribbean Islands that have been hit by Irma will be needing the tourism to get back on their feet again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted September 10, 2017 #14 Share Posted September 10, 2017 That is part of the rules of the sea Maritime Law Closest ship MUST go to the rescue There is a caveat to this, the Captain of the responding vessel is under no obligation to do anything that places his ship, crew, or passengers/cargo at risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyDawg Posted September 10, 2017 #15 Share Posted September 10, 2017 After the tsunami in 2004 one of the biggest problems in Thailand and other places in Asia where tourism is one of the biggest income source was that the tourism didn't pick up again the months after the tsunami. Thailand is one of the biggest holiday destinations for Swedes during the winter, but a lot of people didn't go because they thought that it wouldn't be morally right to do so. But in the end the people of Thailand got another set back because of it. The Caribbean Islands that have been hit by Irma will be needing the tourism to get back on their feet again. In the article the OP sited it mentioned one of NCL's ships will only sail the Western Caribbean routes this Fall because of the damage to the Eastern ports. With airports damaged too, the economies of theses islands will be hard hit over the next few months. I hope all those workers in the tourist industries have some carpentry or other construction skills because that's were the work is going to be in the next few months, not serving Pina Coladas or selling jewelry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyDawg Posted September 10, 2017 #16 Share Posted September 10, 2017 Good to know that the cruise lines have social concerns, not just plain business. They've succumb to pier pressure. pseudowave, you're a bigger cynic than I am. I didn't think that was possible.:D I agree with easyboy that it's a nice 'social concern' move by the cruise lines that just happens to have a great PR and Marketing bonus. Those tourists they rescue from the islands are all potential customers in the right demographic (i.e. they have the disposable income to travel and they like the region) and the help they bring to the islands' populations is a good PR move as they will need local help getting the ports back up and running so both parties can resume their business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRF Posted September 10, 2017 #17 Share Posted September 10, 2017 I hope all those workers in the tourist industries have some carpentry or other construction skills because that's were the work is going to be in the next few months, not serving Pina Coladas or selling jewelry. Although, you don't need much to have a bar or sell jewelry. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leaveitallbehind Posted September 10, 2017 #18 Share Posted September 10, 2017 The Caribbean Islands that have been hit by Irma will be needing the tourism to get back on their feet again. Agree completely. But with the extent of damage to St. Martin, for example, it will unfortunately likely be quite some time until the cruise lines will be able to dock there and Philipsburg and the rest of the island - including the airport - recovered enough to sustain tourism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NMLady Posted September 10, 2017 #19 Share Posted September 10, 2017 They've succumb to pier pressure. Sent from my SM-G950U1 using Tapatalk Not true. They've helped after other disasters as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarea Posted September 10, 2017 #20 Share Posted September 10, 2017 They've succumb to pier pressure. :loudcry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6rugrats Posted September 10, 2017 #21 Share Posted September 10, 2017 They've succumb to pier pressure. Appears this has gone right over most people's heads. :o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karysa Posted September 10, 2017 #22 Share Posted September 10, 2017 Appears this has gone right over most people's heads. :o Or perhaps they thought "too soon" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6rugrats Posted September 10, 2017 #23 Share Posted September 10, 2017 It's CC. If they thought that, they would've said it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NLH Arizona Posted September 10, 2017 #24 Share Posted September 10, 2017 Or perhaps they thought "too soon"Yes, way too soon for jokes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markanddonna Posted September 10, 2017 #25 Share Posted September 10, 2017 I saw photos and read stories about Americans, Canadians, Europeans and others standing in huge crowds on the tarmac at the St. Maarten airport waiting to be taken off the island before Jose comes. That island is at or close to anarchy. I hope that all are off the island by now. I hope everyone remembers the two cruise lines that are helping out: RCCL and NCL. Carnival hasn't made up its mind and we haven't heard from the others. They need to step it up. Here was a quote: "Carnival Cruise Line, the other major cruise line in the world, based in Doral, has not yet announced plans to participate in the relief effort: Spokeswoman Jennifer De La Cruz said the line is reaching out to find out how best to help, and “active conversations and planning” are underway." The people in St. Maarten were likely tourists on land based vacations. This turn of events shows that cruising is likely much safer when these natural disasters occur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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