JPR Posted August 20, 2019 #51 Share Posted August 20, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, clo said: "I did a quick search and it seems that hot coffee doesn't kill bacteria. Oh, @JPR, that's directed to you. " You're worried about the tops or straws but the not the container itself. Oh, come on. What drives you? Huh? Not wanting to get sick because a barista handles something I’m putting into my mouth with his or her bare hands. Equivalent to a barista sticking their fingers into the inside of the cup. And enjoyment of my cold drink without the straw disintegrating. A micro-health issue, as opposed to your macro-environmental concerns. Apples and oranges. Are you being deliberately obtuse? Or belligerent? Edited August 20, 2019 by JPR 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clo Posted August 20, 2019 #52 Share Posted August 20, 2019 1 minute ago, JPR said: "I did a quick search and it seems that hot coffee doesn't kill bacteria. Oh, @JPR, that's directed to you. " You're worried about the tops or straws but the not the container itself. Er, what about these things? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPR Posted August 20, 2019 #53 Share Posted August 20, 2019 I have responded to your posts thoroughly. I and others here are wondering what drives you. Clearly not reason. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawnino Posted August 20, 2019 #54 Share Posted August 20, 2019 9 hours ago, JPR said: I have responded to your posts thoroughly. I and others here are wondering what drives you. Clearly not reason. Lots of people have careers/investments/cash tied up in hyping "greenhouse effect" or "global warming" or "climate change" or whatever they're calling it this week. If they think they're saving the planet because they're not using a straw whilst cruising, your chance at talking sense into them is rather remote. Let it go. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirkNC Posted August 20, 2019 #55 Share Posted August 20, 2019 Just keep repeating, the earth is flat, the earth is flat.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob the Cruiser Posted August 20, 2019 #56 Share Posted August 20, 2019 Just keep repeating, the world is going to end in 12 years, the world is going to end in 12 years... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirkNC Posted August 20, 2019 #57 Share Posted August 20, 2019 51 minutes ago, Rob the Cruiser said: Just keep repeating, the world is going to end in 12 years, the world is going to end in 12 years... No, not ending, she is far more durable then you give her credit for. Let’s hook up in 15-20 years and see who was closer to being right about climate change. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob the Cruiser Posted August 20, 2019 #58 Share Posted August 20, 2019 I didn't say that we don't have a serious problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisetheworld67 Posted August 20, 2019 #59 Share Posted August 20, 2019 Tell you what.....when all the new Mommy's and Daddy's stop using disposable Pampers on their babies and go back to cloth nappys that they have to wash....then I will stop using my plastic straws. Think of all those dirty diapers filling the landfills with the subsequent release of methane gas!!🤮 I remember a few years back on a Caribbean cruise; a woman was practically yelling at the busboy to remove the drink straws, sugar packets, etc. from the back deck tables cuz a few had blown into the ocean and could kill the baby sea turtles!!! 😢😢. The poor busboy had no clue what she was talking about and was working as fast as he could to clear the tables once guests had left. Ohhhhh....the horror....those poor baby sea turtles!!!!🤣 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ORV Posted August 20, 2019 #60 Share Posted August 20, 2019 I've posted this before, but it seems appropriate again. - The Green Thing Checking out at the store, the young cashier suggested to the older woman that she should bring her own grocery bags because plastic bags weren't good for the environment. The woman apologized and explained, "We didn't have this green thing back in my earlier days." The clerk responded, "That's our problem today. Your generation didn’t care enough to save our environment for future generations." She was right --our generation didn't have the green thing in its day. Back then, we returned milk bottles, soda bottles and beer bottles to the store. The store sent them back to the plant to be washed and sterilized and refilled, so it could use the same bottles over and over. So they were really recycled. But we didn't have the green thing back in our day. We walked up stairs, because we didn't have an escalator in every store and office building. We walked to the grocery store and didn't climb into a 300-horsepower machine every time we had to go two blocks. But she was right. We didn't have the green thing in our day. Back then, we washed the baby's diapers because we didn't have the throw-away kind. We dried clothes on a line, not in an energy gobbling machine burning up 220 volts -- wind and solar power really did dry our clothes back in our early days. Kids got hand-me-down clothes from their brothers or sisters, not always brand-new clothing. But that young lady is right. We didn't have the green thing back in our day. Back then, we had one TV, or radio, in the house -- not a TV in every room. And the TV had a small screen the size of a handkerchief (remember them?), not a screen the size of the state of Montana. In the kitchen, we blended and stirred by hand because we didn't have electric machines to do everything for us. When we packaged a fragile item to send in the mail, we used wadded up old newspapers to cushion it, not Styrofoam or plastic bubble wrap. Back then, we didn't fire up an engine and burn gasoline just to cut the lawn. We used a push mower that ran on human power. We exercised by working so we didn't need to go to a health club to run on treadmills that operate on electricity. But she's right. We didn't have the green thing back then. We drank from a fountain when we were thirsty instead of using a cup or a plastic bottle every time we had a drink of water. We refilled writing pens with ink instead of buying a new pen, and we replaced the razor blades in a razor instead of throwing away the whole razor just because the blade got dull. But we didn't have the green thing back then. Back then, people took the streetcar or a bus, and kids rode their bikes to school or walked instead of turning their moms into a 24-hour taxi service. We had one electrical outlet in a room, not an entire bank of sockets to power a dozen appliances. And we didn't need a computerized gadget to receive a signal beamed from satellites 2,000 miles out in space in order to find the nearest pizza joint. But isn't it sad the current generation has to lament how wasteful we old folks were because we didn't have the green thing back then? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJB Posted August 20, 2019 #61 Share Posted August 20, 2019 5 hours ago, Shawnino said: Lots of people have careers/investments/cash tied up in hyping "greenhouse effect" or "global warming" or "climate change" or whatever they're calling it this week. If they think they're saving the planet because they're not using a straw whilst cruising, your chance at talking sense into them is rather remote. Let it go. How right you are !!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJB Posted August 20, 2019 #62 Share Posted August 20, 2019 16 hours ago, TrulyBlonde said: How do you plan on carrying back your Leftovers into your cabin? In your green plastic doggie bag or will you just hand hold that tasty treat while roaming the hallways? You could let your butler figure it out. Some posters say they have no use for a butler, but now they might. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrulyBlonde Posted August 20, 2019 #63 Share Posted August 20, 2019 22 minutes ago, RJB said: You could let your butler figure it out. Some posters say they have no use for a butler, but now they might. The poor Butler.....I am sure they have seen everything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanandJim Posted August 20, 2019 #64 Share Posted August 20, 2019 The Rapture is coming, the Rapture is coming. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgesGal Posted August 20, 2019 #65 Share Posted August 20, 2019 2 hours ago, ORV said: I've posted this before, but it seems appropriate again. - The Green Thing Checking out at the store, the young cashier suggested to the older woman that she should bring her own grocery bags because plastic bags weren't good for the environment. The woman apologized and explained, "We didn't have this green thing back in my earlier days." The clerk responded, "That's our problem today. Your generation didn’t care enough to save our environment for future generations." She was right --our generation didn't have the green thing in its day. Back then, we returned milk bottles, soda bottles and beer bottles to the store. The store sent them back to the plant to be washed and sterilized and refilled, so it could use the same bottles over and over. So they were really recycled. But we didn't have the green thing back in our day. We walked up stairs, because we didn't have an escalator in every store and office building. We walked to the grocery store and didn't climb into a 300-horsepower machine every time we had to go two blocks. But she was right. We didn't have the green thing in our day. Back then, we washed the baby's diapers because we didn't have the throw-away kind. We dried clothes on a line, not in an energy gobbling machine burning up 220 volts -- wind and solar power really did dry our clothes back in our early days. Kids got hand-me-down clothes from their brothers or sisters, not always brand-new clothing. But that young lady is right. We didn't have the green thing back in our day. Back then, we had one TV, or radio, in the house -- not a TV in every room. And the TV had a small screen the size of a handkerchief (remember them?), not a screen the size of the state of Montana. In the kitchen, we blended and stirred by hand because we didn't have electric machines to do everything for us. When we packaged a fragile item to send in the mail, we used wadded up old newspapers to cushion it, not Styrofoam or plastic bubble wrap. Back then, we didn't fire up an engine and burn gasoline just to cut the lawn. We used a push mower that ran on human power. We exercised by working so we didn't need to go to a health club to run on treadmills that operate on electricity. But she's right. We didn't have the green thing back then. We drank from a fountain when we were thirsty instead of using a cup or a plastic bottle every time we had a drink of water. We refilled writing pens with ink instead of buying a new pen, and we replaced the razor blades in a razor instead of throwing away the whole razor just because the blade got dull. But we didn't have the green thing back then. Back then, people took the streetcar or a bus, and kids rode their bikes to school or walked instead of turning their moms into a 24-hour taxi service. We had one electrical outlet in a room, not an entire bank of sockets to power a dozen appliances. And we didn't need a computerized gadget to receive a signal beamed from satellites 2,000 miles out in space in order to find the nearest pizza joint. But isn't it sad the current generation has to lament how wasteful we old folks were because we didn't have the green thing back then? ORV, I'm so glad you resurrected this item. It's been a couple of years since I read it, but it still holds true today. I must be one of that old lady's contemporaries since I remember all of the examples mentioned! I too am a proud old lady. Donna 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJB Posted August 20, 2019 #66 Share Posted August 20, 2019 1 hour ago, TrulyBlonde said: The poor Butler.....I am sure they have seen everything Just about every butler we have had has been terrific. Can't do enough for us. Wouldn't leave home without him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJB Posted August 20, 2019 #67 Share Posted August 20, 2019 2 hours ago, ORV said: I've posted this before, but it seems appropriate again. - The Green Thing Checking out at the store, the young cashier suggested to the older woman that she should bring her own grocery bags because plastic bags weren't good for the environment. The woman apologized and explained, "We didn't have this green thing back in my earlier days." The clerk responded, "That's our problem today. Your generation didn’t care enough to save our environment for future generations." She was right --our generation didn't have the green thing in its day. Back then, we returned milk bottles, soda bottles and beer bottles to the store. The store sent them back to the plant to be washed and sterilized and refilled, so it could use the same bottles over and over. So they were really recycled. But we didn't have the green thing back in our day. We walked up stairs, because we didn't have an escalator in every store and office building. We walked to the grocery store and didn't climb into a 300-horsepower machine every time we had to go two blocks. But she was right. We didn't have the green thing in our day. Back then, we washed the baby's diapers because we didn't have the throw-away kind. We dried clothes on a line, not in an energy gobbling machine burning up 220 volts -- wind and solar power really did dry our clothes back in our early days. Kids got hand-me-down clothes from their brothers or sisters, not always brand-new clothing. But that young lady is right. We didn't have the green thing back in our day. Back then, we had one TV, or radio, in the house -- not a TV in every room. And the TV had a small screen the size of a handkerchief (remember them?), not a screen the size of the state of Montana. In the kitchen, we blended and stirred by hand because we didn't have electric machines to do everything for us. When we packaged a fragile item to send in the mail, we used wadded up old newspapers to cushion it, not Styrofoam or plastic bubble wrap. Back then, we didn't fire up an engine and burn gasoline just to cut the lawn. We used a push mower that ran on human power. We exercised by working so we didn't need to go to a health club to run on treadmills that operate on electricity. But she's right. We didn't have the green thing back then. We drank from a fountain when we were thirsty instead of using a cup or a plastic bottle every time we had a drink of water. We refilled writing pens with ink instead of buying a new pen, and we replaced the razor blades in a razor instead of throwing away the whole razor just because the blade got dull. But we didn't have the green thing back then. Back then, people took the streetcar or a bus, and kids rode their bikes to school or walked instead of turning their moms into a 24-hour taxi service. We had one electrical outlet in a room, not an entire bank of sockets to power a dozen appliances. And we didn't need a computerized gadget to receive a signal beamed from satellites 2,000 miles out in space in order to find the nearest pizza joint. But isn't it sad the current generation has to lament how wasteful we old folks were because we didn't have the green thing back then? This is really good. Hope more people could read it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruise Junky Posted August 20, 2019 #68 Share Posted August 20, 2019 It truly amazes me sometimes that we were able to evolve out of a single celled creature yet a plastic straw causes such concern. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clo Posted August 20, 2019 #69 Share Posted August 20, 2019 5 minutes ago, Cruise Junky said: It truly amazes me sometimes that we were able to evolve out of a single celled creature yet a plastic straw causes such concern. Not A plastic straw and not A piece of any plastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruise Junky Posted August 20, 2019 #70 Share Posted August 20, 2019 8 minutes ago, clo said: Not A plastic straw and not A piece of any plastic. I meant the need to have one, not the getting rid of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clo Posted August 20, 2019 #71 Share Posted August 20, 2019 5 minutes ago, Cruise Junky said: I meant the need to have one, not the getting rid of them. Oh, lordy, yes. The only time I really use one is if we've done drive-thru McD's. If I can avoid taking one I do and if something comes with one, I stir with it and then remove. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJB Posted August 20, 2019 #72 Share Posted August 20, 2019 I think this thread is becoming a little long in the tooth. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingofcool1947 Posted August 21, 2019 #73 Share Posted August 21, 2019 (edited) Straws now on board are made of a biodegradable combination of processed kelp, shark skin, and wood fibers. Adds a very mild fishy taste to liquids sipped through them. Edited August 21, 2019 by Kingofcool1947 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJB Posted August 21, 2019 #74 Share Posted August 21, 2019 5 hours ago, Kingofcool1947 said: Straws now on board are made of a biodegradable combination of processed kelp, shark skin, and wood fibers. Adds a very mild fishy taste to liquids sipped through them. 5 hours ago, Kingofcool1947 said: Straws now on board are made of a biodegradable combination of processed kelp, shark skin, and wood fibers. Adds a very mild fishy taste to liquids sipped through them. Don't like fish. Find another way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanandJim Posted August 21, 2019 #75 Share Posted August 21, 2019 1 hour ago, RJB said: Don't like fish. Find another way. How about drinking from the glass? 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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