Iamcruzin Posted April 16, 2021 #26 Share Posted April 16, 2021 8 minutes ago, smokeybandit said: We've all been fooled by the variant talk. There have been several variants across the world and in the USA before the UK variant got hyped, but only as the pandemic has seen the light at the end of the tunnel are we suddenly told to be concerned about the variants. There are variants with the Flu each year. That's why we get vaccinated every year. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare broberts Posted April 16, 2021 #27 Share Posted April 16, 2021 10 minutes ago, smokeybandit said: We've all been fooled by the variant talk. There have been several variants across the world and in the USA before the UK variant got hyped, but only as the pandemic has seen the light at the end of the tunnel are we suddenly told to be concerned about the variants. The only people being fooled are those that see a conspiracy in every new bit of new knowledge. Experts have been talking about variants since late summer 2020, perhaps even earlier. At the time the comments centered around the surprising lack of variants. The expectation was they would eventually appear. A concern for the nature of variants has always surrounded the discussion. One possible reason for the late appearance of variants is the lack of adequate genomic testing. As I understand it prior to 2021 few countries did anywhere near enough such testing. 16 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iamcruzin Posted April 16, 2021 #28 Share Posted April 16, 2021 14 minutes ago, Heymarco said: Pfizer saying you need a new booster every year is like Ford saying your car has to be fully replaced every three years for safety reasons. I think we need a very unbiased opinion about the risk of Covid variants after pandemic is over and population has been fully inoculated. I’ll look for guidance from scientists rather than CEOs. 👋 Funny you chose Ford as an example. Back in the day Ford had a bad reputation. F. O. R. D = Fix Or Repair Daily or Found On Road Dead. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_G Posted April 16, 2021 #29 Share Posted April 16, 2021 Vaccine threads are the new tipping threads. 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted April 16, 2021 #30 Share Posted April 16, 2021 32 minutes ago, broberts said: Experts have been talking about variants since late summer 2020, perhaps even earlier. At the time the comments centered around the surprising lack of variants. Yes, they've been talking about them since last March. And last March the discussion wasn't in the context of "be scared of the variants" but just "this is what viruses do." And there wasn't a surprise at the lack of variants because it was noted coronaviruses don't mutate as fast as other viruses. Now public health decisions are being made based on the variants despite no evidence that it's any more contagious or deadly (other than a couple off base computer models) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare livingonthebeach Posted April 16, 2021 #31 Share Posted April 16, 2021 28 minutes ago, Iamcruzin said: Funny you chose Ford as an example. Back in the day Ford had a bad reputation. F. O. R. D = Fix Or Repair Daily or Found On Road Dead. LOL FIAT = Fix it Again Tony CADILLAC = Crazy And Dumbass Idiots Like Large American Cars HONDA = Had One Never Did Again SAAB = Swedish Automobiles Always Breakdown SUBARU = Screwed Up Beyond All Repair Usually 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare livingonthebeach Posted April 16, 2021 #32 Share Posted April 16, 2021 Just bought some more Pfizer stock -- looks like a good investment if boosters are going to be a yearly thing -- whether I decide to get them or not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loman Posted April 16, 2021 #33 Share Posted April 16, 2021 I had my first Pfizer shot this week and am scheduled to get the second in August . I have never taken a flu shot so i was a tad reluctant to get this one. As more information became available i decided this one was probably a necessity . If the science says we need a booster in 12 months i will get it also . As for Pfizer saying you need one , its like asking a barber if you need a haircut. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cb at sea Posted April 16, 2021 #34 Share Posted April 16, 2021 It's ALL about CONTROL. Tired of it. 9 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mafig Posted April 16, 2021 #35 Share Posted April 16, 2021 8 minutes ago, loman said: I had my first Pfizer shot this week and am scheduled to get the second in August . I have never taken a flu shot so i was a tad reluctant to get this one. As more information became available i decided this one was probably a necessity . If the science says we need a booster in 12 months i will get it also . As for Pfizer saying you need one , its like asking a barber if you need a haircut. August ??? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yogimax Posted April 16, 2021 #36 Share Posted April 16, 2021 1 hour ago, broberts said: The only people being fooled are those that see a conspiracy in every new bit of new knowledge. Precisely! Sadly, it is the conspiracy theorists who will extend the life of this pandemic ... Sadly, it is the conspiracy theorists who will delay the restart of the cruising industry... Sadly, it is the conspiracy theorists who make their decisions based on politics rather than science... Sadly, it is the conspiracy theorists who are convinced they are the only ones who know the "truth." 13 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mek Posted April 16, 2021 #37 Share Posted April 16, 2021 48 minutes ago, smokeybandit said: Yes, they've been talking about them since last March. And last March the discussion wasn't in the context of "be scared of the variants" but just "this is what viruses do." And there wasn't a surprise at the lack of variants because it was noted coronaviruses don't mutate as fast as other viruses. Now public health decisions are being made based on the variants despite no evidence that it's any more contagious or deadly (other than a couple off base computer models) But if I recall correctly, last year most conversations about mutations were referring to the 1918 pandemic and how it finally mutated into something less lethal and became endemic as the common flu. So far, Covid hasn't seemed to go in that direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molly361 Posted April 16, 2021 #38 Share Posted April 16, 2021 I certainly hope I can go on at least one cruise before I have to get a booster in 2022😇 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cured Posted April 16, 2021 #39 Share Posted April 16, 2021 13 hours ago, jonbgd said: I read that from the CEO pfizer it is due to the variants Just got our 2nd tuesday and will get a booster if needed This seems to be true where I live. We are seeing an uptick in hospitalizations in fully vaccinated nursing home residents. We have the P.1 variant here and it is multiplying. The current vaccines are not very effective against some of the variants. But the vaccines are working as expected; while hospitalizations are up, deaths are not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodtime Cruizin Posted April 16, 2021 Author #40 Share Posted April 16, 2021 The real question that nobody has asked is, "Dr. Fauci, I've had my two Pfizer shots of thge vaccine. How many more is needed before we are allowed to go on a cruise?" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cured Posted April 16, 2021 #41 Share Posted April 16, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, cb at sea said: It's ALL about CONTROL. Tired of it. Never mind. Edited April 16, 2021 by cured 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare xpcdoojk Posted April 16, 2021 #42 Share Posted April 16, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, yogimax said: Precisely! Sadly, it is the conspiracy theorists who will extend the life of this pandemic ... Sadly, it is the conspiracy theorists who will delay the restart of the cruising industry... Sadly, it is the conspiracy theorists who make their decisions based on politics rather than science... Sadly, it is the conspiracy theorists who are convinced they are the only ones who know the "truth." Sadly, people are without a clue and yet they spew their “truth” as if it is. Edited April 16, 2021 by xpcdoojk 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffeebean Posted April 16, 2021 #43 Share Posted April 16, 2021 4 hours ago, vacationlover_mn said: While I didn’t enjoy the side effects of my second shot, I will definitely take the booster! Just hoping the booster has less side effects... Flu like side effects are a good sign. A robust immune system is what causes those side effects. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loman Posted April 16, 2021 #44 Share Posted April 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Heymarco said: Some countries have chosen to ignore recommend timing to get first dose into all citizens faster. This is correct . They are targeting areas with the most cases and setting up centers to get a vax in those areas. They figure more people with one shot is better than less people with two shots. They stretched out the second shot to 3 - 4 months after the first one. Herd immunity is better reached with this method according to the experts. What can i say ... this is Canada . I will take what i can get . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules815 Posted April 16, 2021 #45 Share Posted April 16, 2021 3 hours ago, Iamcruzin said: I'm the only one in my family or friends who had Moderna shot. That was the first appointment that I could get. It seems to be in less supply than Pfizer at least here in NY. I didn't have any side effects but someone I work with who also had Moderna was sick for 3 days. I am very surprised by the negative comments about needing a booster. I'm not Bill Nye the Science Guy but common sense tells me that with the new variations that we are seeing in virus that a booster would be needed. We get our second Moderna shots next Wednesday. We had no reactions whatsoever from the first, but understand we may with the second. We've cleared our calendars just in case. Over the summer I got the Shingrex (shingles) vaccine, and the first one gave me flu like symptoms (body aches, tired, chills) for 48 hours and the second for maybe 24. I'd do it again though. Not surprised the COVID vaccine may be a yearly thing like the flu shot. Fine with that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules815 Posted April 16, 2021 #46 Share Posted April 16, 2021 Just now, jules815 said: We get our second Moderna shots next Wednesday. We had no reactions whatsoever from the first, but understand we may with the second. We've cleared our calendars just in case. Over the summer I got the Shingrex (shingles) vaccine, and the first one gave me flu like symptoms (body aches, tired, chills) for 48 hours and the second for maybe 24. I'd do it again though. Not surprised the COVID vaccine may be a yearly thing like the flu shot. Fine with that. I forgot to say that we did have a sore arm, but not any worse than other shots we've had. Gone in a day or 2. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iamcruzin Posted April 16, 2021 #47 Share Posted April 16, 2021 10 minutes ago, jules815 said: We get our second Moderna shots next Wednesday. We had no reactions whatsoever from the first, but understand we may with the second. We've cleared our calendars just in case. Over the summer I got the Shingrex (shingles) vaccine, and the first one gave me flu like symptoms (body aches, tired, chills) for 48 hours and the second for maybe 24. I'd do it again though. Not surprised the COVID vaccine may be a yearly thing like the flu shot. Fine with that. My Dr told me to hold off on the shingles shot because of the flu like symptoms unless I wanted to quarantine 14 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cured Posted April 16, 2021 #48 Share Posted April 16, 2021 2 hours ago, yogimax said: Precisely! Sadly, it is the conspiracy theorists who will extend the life of this pandemic ... Sadly, it is the conspiracy theorists who will delay the restart of the cruising industry... Sadly, it is the conspiracy theorists who make their decisions based on politics rather than science... Sadly, it is the conspiracy theorists who are convinced they are the only ones who know the "truth." 👆 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMastodon Posted April 16, 2021 #49 Share Posted April 16, 2021 2 hours ago, yogimax said: Precisely! Sadly, it is the conspiracy theorists who will extend the life of this pandemic ... Sadly, it is the conspiracy theorists who will delay the restart of the cruising industry... Sadly, it is the conspiracy theorists who make their decisions based on politics rather than science... Sadly, it is the conspiracy theorists who are convinced they are the only ones who know the "truth." You need some fresh air - it’s safe to be outside or on a beach. (Kinda like what is conspiracy theorists have been saying all along) 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davekathy Posted April 16, 2021 #50 Share Posted April 16, 2021 Glad we didn't get our CV-19 vaccination cards laminated. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts