silverturtle Posted April 9, 2023 #1 Share Posted April 9, 2023 Why oh why can't we have coffee makers on Carnival? NCL has them in their balconies and up and I'm sure they're not the only ones. It's not like they'd be losing money, coffee is free everyplace else on the ship. The scare of a fire?.. us women all have our curling irons and straight irons, so that can't be the reason. I'd even be ok to pay an upcharge for the coffee maker in the room!!! I just don't get why they can't put them in the rooms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare 1025cruise Posted April 9, 2023 #2 Share Posted April 9, 2023 Fire hazard. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gopackgo21 Posted April 9, 2023 #3 Share Posted April 9, 2023 I’ve also seen videos of people cleaning their underwear in them along with a lot of other nasty things. I’ll never use a hotel in room coffee maker again. 🤮 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverturtle Posted April 9, 2023 Author #4 Share Posted April 9, 2023 20 minutes ago, 1025cruise said: Fire hazard. Would smoking and curling irons cause the same fire hazard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare EngIceDave Posted April 9, 2023 #5 Share Posted April 9, 2023 Has a heating element 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klfrodo Posted April 9, 2023 #6 Share Posted April 9, 2023 Are you asking why so you can better understand their operational reasons? Or are you asking why to have a discussion as to why their operational reasons are wrong in your opinion? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerseyjjs Posted April 9, 2023 #7 Share Posted April 9, 2023 I don't even think about using those things. 1. You have no idea who's used them and what for. 2. I'm sure they're not on the priority list for cleaning. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elaine5715 Posted April 10, 2023 #8 Share Posted April 10, 2023 That is a question for @chengkp75 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmoothFlying Posted April 10, 2023 #9 Share Posted April 10, 2023 59 minutes ago, silverturtle said: Why oh why can't we have coffee makers on Carnival? NCL has them in their balconies and up and I'm sure they're not the only ones. It's not like they'd be losing money, coffee is free everyplace else on the ship. The scare of a fire?.. us women all have our curling irons and straight irons, so that can't be the reason. I'd even be ok to pay an upcharge for the coffee maker in the room!!! I just don't get why they can't put them in the rooms. I agree w/you 100% BUT I see the point (to a degree) about the 'fire' problem. And will NOT even discuss the revolting topic discussed in #3 reply above. I LOVE my keurig brewer and wish ( and this may or may not exist and I'm not aware of it OR it may not be possible due too economically fesable). I wish Keurig made a unit that could be 'fire/idiot proof' (IF such a unit is possible) . Therefore we who love HOT coffee could brew a20-30 oz cup in 5 mins. True you can call room service and possibly get a carafe in 20-30 mins BUT odds are it'll be (at best) lukewarm which is a little too cool for my taste. So, I don't know what the cure is for in-room service is or if there is one except to don the casual dress and venture down (or up) to the coffee bar for a warmer cup of joe. Anybody here, have a suggestion or cure? Mac (P.S Heck, I'll even BRING my coffee pods if they could find a suitable unit) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BlerkOne Posted April 10, 2023 #10 Share Posted April 10, 2023 Why is because Carnival says you can't. Full stop. A suggestion is to switch to cold brew coffee. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ObstructedView2 Posted April 10, 2023 #11 Share Posted April 10, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, silverturtle said: Why oh why can't we have coffee makers on Carnival? Hi @silverturtle🙂 Actually, there are many obvious and 'possible' reasons. I'll list just a few. Fire hazard / Burns / Overheating Sanitary Reasons / Cleaning Of Units Sanitized Every Turnaround Day For New Passengers Germs / Spreading Of Germs Coffee Spills / Carpet Stains Hundreds Of Coffee Makers More Electricity Being Used Electrical Consumption Cost Money / Fuel 🍹 Edited April 10, 2023 by ObstructedView2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BlerkOne Posted April 10, 2023 #12 Share Posted April 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, ObstructedView2 said: Hi @silverturtle🙂 Actually, there are many obvious and 'possible' reasons. I'll list a few. Fire hazard / Burns / Overheating Sanitary Reasons / Cleaning Of Units Sanitized Every Turnaround Day For New Passengers Germs / Spreading Of Germs Coffee Spills / Carpet Stains Hundreds Of Coffee Makers More Electricity Being Used Electrical Consumption Cost Money / Fuel 🍹 Electrical system not designed for The most obvious - theft and/or sabotage 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lubedobedo Posted April 10, 2023 #13 Share Posted April 10, 2023 Why not bring a french press and coffee grounds and order a pot of hot water through room service. Make your own. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staceyglow Posted April 10, 2023 #14 Share Posted April 10, 2023 24 minutes ago, lubedobedo said: Why not bring a french press and coffee grounds and order a pot of hot water through room service. Make your own. If you are going to order hot water from room service, you might as well just order coffee. 🙂 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Fart Cruisers Posted April 10, 2023 #15 Share Posted April 10, 2023 3 hours ago, silverturtle said: Why oh why can't we have coffee makers on Carnival? Just like mom used to say "Because I said so, now don't ask me again". It's Carnival's ship. . . . Their ship, their rules. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icft Posted April 10, 2023 #16 Share Posted April 10, 2023 5 hours ago, silverturtle said: Why oh why can't we have coffee makers on Carnival? NCL has them in their balconies and up and I'm sure they're not the only ones. It's not like they'd be losing money, coffee is free everyplace else on the ship. The scare of a fire?.. us women all have our curling irons and straight irons, so that can't be the reason. I'd even be ok to pay an upcharge for the coffee maker in the room!!! I just don't get why they can't put them in the rooms. It is a valid question, but no one here can answer. Only Carnival could give the real reason. But thinking Carnival would be adding something these days is very wishful thinking. The better question is what will they cut next. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qextor Posted April 10, 2023 #17 Share Posted April 10, 2023 I figure that the reason is money. In order for you to have a coffee machine in your room, Carnival would have to buy the machine first, right? Not enough people are bothered by not having one in their room for Carnival to do anything about it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverturtle Posted April 10, 2023 Author #18 Share Posted April 10, 2023 2 hours ago, Qextor said: I figure that the reason is money. In order for you to have a coffee machine in your room, Carnival would have to buy the machine first, right? Not enough people are bothered by not having one in their room for Carnival to do anything about it. That's what I kinda thought. It's got to be the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted April 10, 2023 #19 Share Posted April 10, 2023 The last post is closer to the point than others. It is a "risk/reward" consideration. The reward is having more passengers pleased by having a coffee maker in the cabin. The risk is the cost of the machines, and the cost of having the crew take the machines out of service regularly (and having bought extra machines to cover these inspections) and the man/hours involved in testing and inspecting the machines for defects (which is done by those lines that provide coffee makers and hair dryers). Add in the insurance cost to cover the fire hazard of the coffee makers (the insurance clubs already accept the cost and risk of allowing hair care appliances that are brought by passengers). Carnival's demographic research has shown that there is not enough reward to counter the risk, while other lines feel differently. The idea that adding coffee makers would impact fuel consumption in any meaningful way, or that the electrical system could not handle, or was not designed for coffee makers in every cabin is not right. When I was working for NCL, we added coffee makers to every cabin, and as the Chief Engineer, I can say that there was no noticeable change in fuel consumption, or electrical problems. The coffee makers were removed after a few months due to cost to inspect/maintain them. The fire hazard that coffee makers present is a failure of the "auto-off" temperature switch, that shuts the heating element off when the water is all boiled from the reservoir. This is the most common failure mode for a coffee maker, and the plastic reservoir is perfect fuel for a fire. This failure almost sent Mr. Coffee into bankruptcy back in the 1980's. As for sanitizing a coffee maker, the CDC VSP only recommends cleaning/sanitizing "as per manufacturer's instructions", which is typically every 6-12 months. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnitaVacation Posted April 10, 2023 #20 Share Posted April 10, 2023 I would be onboard to paying extra for one (like ordering wifi, room service, etc)... but the current room service way works fine as well (most of the time). I do miss having the door cards. Every morning, we order 2 pots of coffee with cream and sugar.... it costs us a $5 tip every tip every morning. But I love having coffee on my balcony every morning and I am the type of person that does NOTHING before coffee. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudyard Posted April 10, 2023 #21 Share Posted April 10, 2023 (edited) I also have to think it's down to cost more than anything else. Otherwise what could NCL be doing so much differently than Carnival that allows one to have coffee makers and one to not have them? It was nice to have a coffee maker when I cruised NCL a few years ago, but it's far from a deal breaker. Before my last cruise I bought a 20oz thermos which is good for about three Carnival size cups of coffee. When I woke up I'd head to the Lido and fill it. Not as convenient as a coffee maker, but quicker than room service. Edited April 10, 2023 by Rudyard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purvis1231 Posted April 10, 2023 #22 Share Posted April 10, 2023 I often stay in hotels with coffee makers but rarely use them since it is it is not that much trouble to walk down to the lobby/cafe' to get a fresh cup. I know that P&O ships have kettles for their tea-loving guest so it comes down to what the passengers demand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirreladd Posted April 10, 2023 #23 Share Posted April 10, 2023 Most likely its a cultural thing. P&O owned by Carnival has tea kettles due to it being a British centric line and their cultural love of Tea. While Coffee is the USA equivalent it may not be as popular. Wouldn't be impossible for Carnival to Contract out for some cheap room K-Cup makers and some rebranded "carnival coffee" C-kups in the room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare sparks1093 Posted April 10, 2023 #24 Share Posted April 10, 2023 12 hours ago, silverturtle said: Why oh why can't we have coffee makers on Carnival? NCL has them in their balconies and up and I'm sure they're not the only ones. It's not like they'd be losing money, coffee is free everyplace else on the ship. The scare of a fire?.. us women all have our curling irons and straight irons, so that can't be the reason. I'd even be ok to pay an upcharge for the coffee maker in the room!!! I just don't get why they can't put them in the rooms. I haven't read all of the responses but I'm going to guess it's the cost and manpower involved with providing them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asalligo Posted April 10, 2023 #25 Share Posted April 10, 2023 12 hours ago, gopackgo21 said: I’ve also seen videos of people cleaning their underwear in them along with a lot of other nasty things. I’ll never use a hotel in room coffee maker again. 🤮 This is the reason I do not even care for one in the rooms. What people do in these rooms and anything in them will amaze you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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