Autistic 14 year old missing from Caribbean Princess.

[startedwithamouse]

9 hours ago, Kay S said:

Not all grandparents are elderly.  Let's say this 14 yr old has a parent who is 35, and that person's parent is 55.  Completely plausible.  I don't consider 55 elderly.  Of course, we know nothing of this family or their situation, so passing judgement seems unnecessary. 

Grandma is 65.

[voljeep]

39 minutes ago, Outerdog said:

So, aside from the fact that the boy is missing, the whole thread is speculation -- an investigation launched by members of an internet forum most of whom are hundreds or thousands of kilometers away from the event. Ridiculous.

supposedly ... someone ... somewhere ... elsewhere ...

you need more than that? 😉

[whitecap]

10 minutes ago, startedwithamouse said:

Grandma is 65.

OMG....does Grandma's age really have any relevance to this event?  If Grandma and the young man had taken an excursion and the young man had arranged to meet his gaming friend there, would we be talking about Grandma's age?  Apparently the young man's parent(s) and Grandma felt that she was very capable of taking her Grandson on a cruise.  Lay off Grandma!  There are only two facts to this event:  Young man disembarked ship; Young man didn't return.  What say we let the "real investigators" handle this and give the public the facts when completed.  Sergeant Joe Friday would not be happy with all the "speculation".  

[Itchy&Scratchy]

18 hours ago, Eric&Pam said:

One would hope that his medallion scan would indicate that he was a minor.

it most likely does. Last month on Enchanted when security scanned our adult sized 13 yo's medallion, they checked every time that he was with an adult. They asked only after scanning the medallion.

[azbirdmom]

1 hour ago, Outerdog said:

It's not at all "clear" that he "got past security"

 

Actually by the time that I posted the family and some news articles had stated that Princess admitted he left the ship without an escort.  As an example I've copied what an aunt indicated below.  Sounds like Princess isn't trying to hide anything and is actively trying to help.

 

 

"I am Aydins aunt. To clear things, he was traveling with his grandma on vacation. She was unaware that after breakfast he left the ship. Yes, Princess acknowledged the error of letting a minor off alone. They’ve stepped up being involved in search and sent for his Mom to get her to Germany and put grandma in a hotel.

There are so many scenarios to imagine in this nightmare. We just ask for the continued shares and prayers!"

[www3traveler]

3 hours ago, amajaa said:

I'm assuming that the ship has now sailed on to the next ports without them, am I correct in that? 

 

Hope he is found soon. A worrying time for the family.

 

 

 

 

Yes,  The Grandmother was taken off the ship just prior to sailing with Care Team assistance.  Meaning I think, that someone from the Care Team is staying with the Grandmother until family can arrive from the US and or the situation is resolved.

[Lady Arwen]

I pray that this innocent boy is located quickly and unharmed.  It’s really quite alarming that he was allowed to disembark the ship without an adult escort.  I fear that this will not bode well for Princess regardless of the outcome.  His safe return is paramount. 

[azbirdmom]

I mentioned yesterday that we should give this family some grace.  None of us knows the whole story and there are real people suffering as a result of this incident.  I just read the post below from an aunt and it just breaks my heart.  Sharing here with the hope that people will think before they jump to conclusions and shame the victim and / or the family.  Praying that Aydin will soon be found unharmed.

 

[sherryf]

14 hours ago, startedwithamouse said:

No way in he** an autistic 14 year-old should be taken alone on a cruise out of the country to Europe by an elderly relative.

There are degrees of autism, and many people with autism are very high functioning, so much so that you wouldn't necessarily know that they are autistic.  I know plenty of adults with high functioning autism that lead perfectly normal lives.  Chances are, you know some too and don't even realize it.

 

Without knowing this young man's level of autism, you cannot judge whether it is appropriate or not for him to be traveling with his grandmother.  Another post said she is 65, which I do not consider to be "elderly". I'm sure his parents would not have allowed him to go with her if she was not capable of caring for him.

[Cruise Raider]

3 hours ago, MsSoCalCruiser said:

If my grandchild was missing under my care or anyone else’s I would also require a Care Team. The Care Team may not have anything to do with her age. Someone from Princess let this child leave the ship, so I would imagine that the Care Team would stay with the grandparent. This makes my heart hurt and my prayers are with the child and his family. 

That makes sense.  My assumptions took over.  
 

[Nancycat]

Oh, I have so many feelings on this, first I am a 66 year old grandma and just weeks ago I took my very fast 2 year old off at this very same port.

Secondly, I went on a European cruise with my good friend ,my husband and her autistic son last year.

He did perfectly well, with all of us old people 

 

 

 

 

[Host CJSKIDS]

Perhaps we should just stick to the known facts and say a prayer for the kid that's missing, whether he ran away or was taken.  As others have said, there are so many degrees of being on the autism spectrum and we have simply  no idea about this young man's life or family.  

 

As we can see by the post that @azbirdmom did, that included the blurb from the aunt's social media page, many comments are very hurtful to the family so in case they come over here hoping for some news from fellow cruisers, let's not add to the tragedy. 

 

No one that has currently posted on this thread is on the ship, no one on here has first hand experience on how or why the grandson left the ship.  Bickering over whether or not the medallion worked or didn't is just plain silly at this point.  

 

I don't want to lock the thread so rather than bickering over various speculations on what happened or didn't happen, maybe we can just share our thoughts and prayers for the family and the situation and hopefully post some good news when they find him. 

 

[cruzsnooze]

17 hours ago, Eric&Pam said:

 

Sounds like security is slacking. Another teen on this sailing posted this elsewhere:

 

 

Sounds like his adult guardian is slacking not  taking of him. It's easier to blame the ship, & the security.  That being said I wish for him to found safe and returned to his family regardless of the circumstances. 

Edited July 6 by cruzsnooze

[Kay S]

56 minutes ago, cruzsnooze said:

Sounds like his adult guardian is slacking not  taking of him. It's easier to blame the ship, & the security.  

As I understand it, Princess has accepted responsibility for allowing the minor off the ship.  As several people have rightly said, we don't know the circumstances and blaming the guardian will only add to the family's pain.  Blaming will not find the child.

[Itchy&Scratchy]

20 minutes ago, Kay S said:

Blaming will not find the child.

none of these posts will help find the child. It's just talk.

 

1 hour ago, Host CJSKIDS said:

many comments are very hurtful to the family so in case they come over here hoping for some news from fellow cruisers

didn't the cruise continue without the grandma and the kid? What would fellow cruisers know about the situation that the grandma and the parents wouldn't find out first?

[scubacruiserx2]

A horrible bit of news from the Caribbean Princess yesterday , as a 14 year old boy is missing from the Caribbean Princess in Germany . He and his family are in our prayers . 🙏

 

https://www.foxnews.com/us/american-teen-missing-germany-after-family-fears-he-lured-from-caribbean-princess-cruise-ship

[dog]

Found.  Mom’s fb said this. Police going to pick him up and other man 

[Rick&Jeannie]

7 minutes ago, dog said:

Found.  Mom’s fb said this. Police going to pick him up and other man 

Hope this is true!  (And found safe!)

[tonit964]

15 hours ago, Kay S said:

Not all grandparents are elderly.  Let's say this 14 yr old has a parent who is 35, and that person's parent is 55.  Completely plausible.  I don't consider 55 elderly.  Of course, we know nothing of this family or their situation, so passing judgement seems unnecessary. 

If my first born did what I did having him just short of 19, I could have been a grandmother at 38. 😳

[kathy49]

13 hours ago, paddingtonbear said:

An article on cruise mapper said: 

“Aydin was traveling with his grandmother, who also disembarked at the port with assistance from a Care Team.“

great that he was found safe

Edited July 6 by kathy49
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[insidecabin]

The gran has reported on the cruise FB group.

 

Found.

[azbirdmom]

17 minutes ago, dog said:

Found.  Mom’s fb said this. Police going to pick him up and other man 

Yes!  Both the mom and an aunt are posting this.  Hallelujah!

[paddingtonbear]

1 minute ago, kathy49 said:

what does that mean?

Apparently it mean Princess staff (the care team) helped her pack and assisted her to leave the ship. With the required paperwork I imagine. 
 

princess have also flown the mother to the city to help with the search. 

[MsSoCalCruiser]

10 minutes ago, azbirdmom said:

Yes!  Both the mom and an aunt are posting this.  Hallelujah!

Where are you seeing this? 🙏🏻

[azbirdmom]

Just now, MsSoCalCruiser said:

Where are you seeing this? 🙏🏻

 

On their personal FB pages.  They have been out there posting trying to get maximum exposure on this situation.