flossie009 Posted May 19, 2020 #226 Share Posted May 19, 2020 Still many cruise ships around Manila waiting to disembark crew: Maritime Executive I don't think that any NCLH ships have joined the group in Manila, but from this report NCLH seems to be doing quite well in working with CDC to enable crew repatriation: CDC Report Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare loriva Posted May 19, 2020 #227 Share Posted May 19, 2020 36 minutes ago, flossie009 said: Navigator is on the move again. She didn't stay long in Gibraltar and is now on the way to Barcelona (ETA Thurs 21st). Presumably Navigator called in to Gib for supplies and maybe to drop off some crew: Gibraltar Chronicle Thanks for the update, Flossie009. As I stated in another post, we are scheduled to make our first cruise with Regent on the Navigator on 30 October from NYC. From what I've read on other boards, Navigator may be ultimately heading to Italy for dry dock? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pcardad Posted May 19, 2020 #228 Share Posted May 19, 2020 Yes, for a technical repair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ2002 Posted May 19, 2020 #229 Share Posted May 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Pcardad said: Yes, for a technical repair. We were onboard Navigator last year, shortly after its most recent refurb. I recall that they weren't able to replace the decking around the pool deck at that time, and it was scheduled for this year. It that what you are calling the 'technical repair'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pcardad Posted May 19, 2020 #230 Share Posted May 19, 2020 No - I was told all standard (cosmetic, etc.) drydocks were cancelled. Navigator is supposed to be going in for a specific fix that won't wait. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travelcat2 Posted May 19, 2020 #231 Share Posted May 19, 2020 22 minutes ago, Pcardad said: No - I was told all standard (cosmetic, etc.) drydocks were cancelled. Navigator is supposed to be going in for a specific fix that won't wait. Thank you for the explanation. This is what I thought was going on as I have not known Regent to do a dry dock for cosmetic issues. Also, as you know, cosmetic issues are continually done on all of the ships. I cannot count the times when we received a notice that the wood on our balcony rails were being painted. They also do some furniture recovering while onboard amongst a host of other things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flossie009 Posted May 21, 2020 #232 Share Posted May 21, 2020 Navigator docked in Barcelona around 2:30pm local time today ; now moored alongside Norwegian Breakaway. Voyager is still en route to the Suez Canal (ETA May 24) in convoy with Norwegian Jade and Oceania Nautica. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ2002 Posted May 21, 2020 #233 Share Posted May 21, 2020 3 hours ago, flossie009 said: Navigator docked in Barcelona around 2:30pm local time today ; now moored alongside Norwegian Breakaway. Voyager is still en route to the Suez Canal (ETA May 24) in convoy with Norwegian Jade and Oceania Nautica. Flossie, thanks for keeping us updated on the locations of our great Regent ships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeD1000 Posted May 21, 2020 #234 Share Posted May 21, 2020 Thanks to Flossie009 and mrlevin. We're hanging in there hoping for Europe to open up . Regent are still advertising July in the Med, but it's going to be tight. We're watching with interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeD1000 Posted May 21, 2020 #235 Share Posted May 21, 2020 Meanwhile we are waiting for news of Splendor. July now cancelled, and Splendor is still on the west coast of Mexico. Is she really going to come to Europe just for August to November? We have a large deposit and it looks as if we pay the rest and hope. We wish Regent would be more upfront about their intentions. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rallydave Posted May 21, 2020 #236 Share Posted May 21, 2020 19 minutes ago, MikeD1000 said: Meanwhile we are waiting for news of Splendor. July now cancelled, and Splendor is still on the west coast of Mexico. Is she really going to come to Europe just for August to November? We have a large deposit and it looks as if we pay the rest and hope. We wish Regent would be more upfront about their intentions. Fdr has been doing interviews saying regent and other NCLH ships won’t be sailing until late third quarter early fourth quarter so no way to tell if your November cruise will or won’t go but unlikely as he also said start with one ship from each line. Would not expect the schedule for the rest of 2930 will look anything like what is currently shown as schedule and don’t expect a new schedule for several months until closer to first sailing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travelcat2 Posted May 21, 2020 #237 Share Posted May 21, 2020 (edited) 33 minutes ago, rallydave said: Fdr has been doing interviews saying regent and other NCLH ships won’t be sailing until late third quarter early fourth quarter so no way to tell if your November cruise will or won’t go but unlikely as he also said start with one ship from each line. Would not expect the schedule for the rest of 2930 will look anything like what is currently shown as schedule and don’t expect a new schedule for several months until closer to first sailing. Frank Del Rio said ships may sail in the timeframe that you mentioned. He also said that it is "irresponsible" to give a specific date as to when ships will be sailing. He has not made any definitive comment about this. He also said in the television interview (and some other interviews) that long time Regent cruisers are not only looking at cruises close to the U.S., but want to sail as far away as "Dubai", so, although there will likely be some port changes due to ports that remain closed at the time of the sailing, it is likely that some itineraries will remain the same while others will be tweaked. You can be fairly certain that, if Carnival is able to successfully sail at the beginning of August, the rest of the cruise lines will not be far behind. As we know, resumption of cruising is not dependent upon the wishes of CEO's or passengers. There are so many other things in play here. NCLH is working with a doctor and the CDC to insure that Regent meets or exceeds every requirement that is put forth. Edited May 21, 2020 by Travelcat2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBWC Posted May 22, 2020 #238 Share Posted May 22, 2020 Apparently, the Navigator is now in quarantine in Barcelona, since two crew members have tested positive for COVID-19. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrlevin Posted May 22, 2020 #239 Share Posted May 22, 2020 (edited) Here is the report. Note that they tested positive for antibodies, not that they currently have the virus. Quote Norwegian Cruise Line ha confirmado que dos de los tripulantes de su crucero atracado con urgencia en el Puerto de Barcelona han dado positivo por anticuerpos de la infección que causa el virus SARS-CoV-2. Un portavoz de la naviera con sede fiscal en Bermuda y social en Florida (Estados Unidos) ha admitido a este medio que dos empleados del Seven Seas Navigator se han contagiado con el patógeno en el pasado, lo cual no asegura ni su inmunidad ni que no puedan transmitirlo. Por ello, hasta 450 trabajadores, permanecen aislados en el buque, que se encuentra atracado en el Muelle Adosado de la dársena de la Ciudad Condal. A petición de este medio, un portavoz de la naviera ha explicado que la alerta ha saltado durante el viaje de repatriación del Seven Seas, parte de la flota de la marca Regent Seven Seas, la de más alto lujo de la naviera Norwegian Cruise Line. "Seven Seas Navigator llegó a Barcelona con aproximadamente 450 miembros de tripulación a bordo. A su llegada, dos miembros de la tripulación que se encontraban en aislamiento preventivo se sometieron a una prueba serológica para detectar anticuerpos Covid-19 por parte de las autoridades portuarias", ha señalado el representante. "Dieron positivo para los anticuerpos del virus. Desde entonces se han administrado pruebas PCR y estamos esperando resultados. Continuamos trabajando estrechamente con el Ministerio de Sanidad. Ofreceremos más detalles a medida que los conozcamos", ha agregado. Otras fuentes consultadas han asegurado que las pruebas PCR ya se han realizado y han dado negativo. Las mismas voces han subrayado que los positivos serían por anticuerpos, no por carga viral activa. NCL: "Esfuerzos para repatriar" A su vez, Norwegia Cruise Line ha querido dejar claro que "la salud, seguridad y bienestar de nuestra tripulación son nuestras principales prioridades. Es por ello que continuamos trabajando todo el día para proporcionar un traslado rápido y seguro a todos y cada uno de los miembros de nuestra tripulación". ¿Lo han logrado? "Hasta la fecha, hemos repatriado un número significativo de miembros de la tripulación a pesar de los continuos desafíos a los que nos enfrentamos con respecto a las restricciones de viajes nacionales e internacionales, que cambian constantemente", ha reconocido la naviera que comanda Frank del Río, consejero delegado. En efecto y hasta su llegada a Barcelona, Norwegian Cruise Line alerta de que "se enfrenta a tiempos sin precedentes", durante los cuales "se ha adaptado ágilmente para trabajar en situaciones nunca antes experimentadas". Pese a ello, sufre la "restricción de la disponibilidad de transporte aéreo", por lo que ha tenido que recurrir a "nuestra flota en todo el mundo para ayudar a llevar a los miembros de nuestra tripulación a casa de manera segura". Segunda alerta en cinco meses Cabe recordar que los positivos por anticuerpos de Covid-19 en el Seven Seas Navigator constituyen la segunda alerta sanitaria que encaja el Puerto de Barcelona. En enero de este año, el buque Costa Smeralda, de Costa Crociere, atracó en la mayor dársena de recreo del Mediterráneo con una pasajera con síntomas de haber contraído el virus. Ello provocó que se activaran las alarmas en el Muelle Adosado. En aquel momento, la Autoridad Portuaria de Barcelona (APB) indicó que había seguido todos los protocolos dictados por el Ministerio de Sanidad. Los sindicatos, por su parte, criticaron la falt de profilaxis. En esta ocasión, el microorganismo ha llegado a una embarcación de más nivel que la de Costa. El Seven Seas Navigator es parte de la flota de la marca Regent Seven Seas Cruises, (RSS), antigua Radisson. Se especializa en los buques de recreo de muy alto nivel con servicios de calidad, y forma parte del conglomerado de Norwegian desde 2014. And in English: Quote Norwegian Cruise Line has confirmed that two of the crew of its cruise ship docked urgently at the Port of Barcelona have tested positive for antibodies to the infection caused by the SARS-CoV-2 virus. A spokesman for the Bermuda-based tax and social security shipping company in Florida (United States) has admitted to this media that two employees of the Seven Seas Navigator have been infected with the pathogen in the past, which does not ensure their immunity or that they do not can pass it on. For this reason, up to 450 workers remain isolated on the ship, which is docked at the Attached Dock of the Barcelona City dock. At the request of this means, a spokesman for the shipping company has explained that the alert has risen during the repatriation trip of the Seven Seas, part of the fleet of the Regent Seven Seas brand, the highest luxury of the Norwegian Cruise Line. "Seven Seas Navigator arrived in Barcelona with approximately 450 crew members on board. Upon arrival, two crew members who were in preventive isolation underwent a serological test to detect Covid-19 antibodies by port authorities" , the representative has pointed out. "They tested positive for the virus antibodies. Since then PCR tests have been administered and we are waiting for results. We continue to work closely with the Ministry of Health. We will offer more details as we get to know them," he added. Other consulted sources have assured that the PCR tests have already been carried out and have given negative. The same voices have stressed that the positives would be for antibodies, not for active viral load. NCL: "Efforts to repatriate" In turn, Norwegia Cruise Line wanted to make it clear that "the health, safety and well-being of our crew are our top priorities. That is why we continue working all day to provide a fast and safe transfer to each and every one of the members of our crew. " Have they succeeded? "To date, we have repatriated a significant number of crew members despite the continuing challenges we face with respect to constantly changing national and international travel restrictions," acknowledged the shipping company commanding Frank del Rio, CEO. Indeed, and until its arrival in Barcelona, Norwegian Cruise Line warns that "it is facing unprecedented times", during which "it has been nimbly adapted to work in situations never experienced before". Despite this, he suffers from the "restriction on the availability of air transport", for which he has had to resort to "our fleet worldwide to help bring our crew members home safely". Second alert in five months It should be remembered that the positives for Covid-19 antibodies in the Seven Seas Navigator constitute the second health alert that the Port of Barcelona fits. In January this year, the Costa Smeralda ship, from Costa Crociere, docked at the largest recreational dock in the Mediterranean with a passenger with symptoms of having contracted the virus. This caused the alarms to be activated in the Attached Dock. At that time, the Barcelona Port Authority (APB) indicated that it had followed all the protocols dictated by the Ministry of Health. The unions, for their part, criticized the lack of prophylaxis. On this occasion, the microorganism has reached a vessel of a higher level than that of Costa. The Seven Seas Navigator is part of the fleet of the Regent Seven Seas Cruises brand (RSS), former Radisson. He specializes in very high-level pleasure craft with quality services, and has been part of Norwegian's conglomerate since 2014. Edited May 22, 2020 by mrlevin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travelcat2 Posted May 22, 2020 #240 Share Posted May 22, 2020 (edited) 23 minutes ago, BBWC said: Apparently, the Navigator is now in quarantine in Barcelona, since two crew members have tested positive for COVID-19. How very sad. I have to wonder how it got onboard the ship since I thought (probably wrongly) that the crew was staying on the ship. Edited May 22, 2020 by Travelcat2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizpharm2 Posted May 22, 2020 #241 Share Posted May 22, 2020 They tested positive for the antibodies meanings they were previously exposed. They are awaiting the results of the PCR test which tests for active virus. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBWC Posted May 22, 2020 #242 Share Posted May 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Wizpharm2 said: They tested positive for the antibodies meanings they were previously exposed. They are awaiting the results of the PCR test which tests for active virus. Thanks to you and Marc for correcting my post. Did not mean to spread false information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SusieQft Posted May 22, 2020 #243 Share Posted May 22, 2020 Hopefully soon a vaccine will be widely available, and most people will test positive for the antibodies. In the meantime, I hope that governments and regulatory agencies will not get too confused about the meaning of the antibody test vs the test for active virus. In this case, I see it as a hopeful sign that two crew members presumably had an asymptomatic infection sometime in the last few months on board the ship, without widely spreading it to others on the ship. This would suggest that it does not always spread like wild fire in a "floating petri dish." If my assumptions are true then kudos to Regent for whatever precautions kept that from happening! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrlevin Posted May 22, 2020 #244 Share Posted May 22, 2020 Navigator currently has crew from Regent, Oceania, and NCL onboard. I wonder if we will ever know from which ship these two came. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travelcat2 Posted May 22, 2020 #245 Share Posted May 22, 2020 1 hour ago, mrlevin said: Navigator currently has crew from Regent, Oceania, and NCL onboard. I wonder if we will ever know from which ship these two came. Good point. I was wondering that myself. Since there is mention in the article that the Navigator has had two employees have been infected with the pathogen in the past but not does state if if they were onboard the ship when they were infected. Hoping for a positive result so that the 450 crew members can return home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrlevin Posted May 23, 2020 #246 Share Posted May 23, 2020 Apparently there is now a symptomatic crew member that tested positive; hopefully this post from crew--center dot com transfers properly. About 450 crew members of the cruise ship Seven Seas Navigator docked at the port of Barcelona are quarantined after coronavirus was detected among one of the crew members. According to the Spanish Ministry of Health, the ship arrived at the port of Barcelona on Thursday, and one female crew member with mild symptoms on board had been isolated. El Mundo reports that in connection with the state of emergency introduced in Spain, cruise liners are forbidden to call at the ports, however, an exception was made for Seven Seas Navigator operated by Regent Seven Seas Cruises, Spanish Ministry of Health said in a statement that the cruise ship requested to dock in the port of Barcelona, as well as that the Sanitary Maritime Declaration indicated that a crew member presented symptoms compatible with the virus. “The woman underwent Covid-19 test and she tested positive. Therefore, the crew member remains on board the ship, isolated from the other crew members who do not have symptoms but are quarantined as a precautionary measure.” said the Ministry of Health spokesperson. La Nota Latina@lanotalatina Con 400 personas a bordo, el crucero “Navigator Seven Seas”, de Regent Seven Seas Cruises está en cuarentena tras detectarse un caso de coronavirus al llegar al puerto de Barcelona. Detalles en nuestra sección de #actualidad con nuestra corresponsal @elisamanrique95 #COVIDー19 4 8:19 PM - May 22, 2020 Twitter Ads info and privacy See La Nota Latina's other Tweets The German newspaper Stern received a statement from Regent Seven Seas spokesperson who said. "As part of an effort to bring crew members from Europe home, Seven Seas Navigator arrived in Barcelona on May 21 with about 450 crew members. PCR (Polymerase Chain Reaction) tests have been carried out since then and we are waiting for the results," said the spokesman. "We continue to work closely with the Ministry of Health in Madrid and will provide more details as we learn more." The cruise ship Seven Seas Navigator arrived in Barcelona after a 13-day voyage across the Atlantic. Only crew members from different nations are on board, who have now been quarantined and cannot travel home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travelcat2 Posted May 23, 2020 #247 Share Posted May 23, 2020 Really sorry to hear this news and wish that the crew members could go into quarantine in the country of their residence rather than having Navigator sit and wait 14 days for the quarantine to end. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare travelberlin Posted May 23, 2020 #248 Share Posted May 23, 2020 I hate to learn that countries with such large numbers of infected people like Spain, are afraid of some cruise ships, carrying either passengers or crew who test positive. Cruising is suffering because of the inability of ports to put things in context. Keeping infected people on board will not do any good to the other crew members. And as a matter of fact Spain itself poses more danger to the crew members than they to Spain. Ivi 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare steamboats Posted May 23, 2020 #249 Share Posted May 23, 2020 @travelberlin They are still conducting a second test. Until the results are back the ship is under quarantine - so nobody is allowed to go onshore. I doubt that a whole 14 day quarantine will be held onboard. If the second tests is positive they pretty likely will test all onboard and then send them into quarantine on land. They´ve all learned from the Diamond Princess... steamboats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flossie009 Posted May 23, 2020 #250 Share Posted May 23, 2020 https://polandin.com/48189592/26-poles-among-people-onboard-cruise-ship-under-quarantine-in-barcelona Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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