Rare BermudaBound2014 Posted June 3, 2019 #101 Share Posted June 3, 2019 Just now, sidari said: BB .. Have you read comment on previous page ? Yep, just providing a visual to support your claim that "MSC opera is under arrest" :). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidari Posted June 3, 2019 #102 Share Posted June 3, 2019 (edited) BB ... Arrest was the word used by the person who supplied the information. Latest is that the cruise may be cancelled tomorrow but nothing definate yet. Edited June 3, 2019 by sidari Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOLDENBONNY Posted June 3, 2019 #103 Share Posted June 3, 2019 On 6/2/2019 at 9:33 AM, jumpjump said: Didnt another MSC crashed a Caribbean port last year? Maybe they need new captains... Accordingly to you all cruise lines need new captains,they all had accidents . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fstuff1 Posted June 3, 2019 #104 Share Posted June 3, 2019 5 hours ago, sidari said: Updated story. In one of the photos it appears the port anchor was down. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7098103/Pilot-cruise-ship-smashed-Venice-canal-tour-boat-describes-horror-crash.html 'Here on the bridge, we don't understand what happened,' the pilot is heard saying. wha? also, if anchors arent allowed in venice, why did the riverboat have her anchor deployed while docked? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekB Posted June 3, 2019 #105 Share Posted June 3, 2019 11 minutes ago, fstuff1 said: also, if anchors arent allowed in venice, why did the riverboat have her anchor deployed while docked? The anchor I was wasn't from the riverboat, but rather from the MSC ship (which was draped over the riverboat). Perhaps I am wrong though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare gnome12 Posted June 3, 2019 #106 Share Posted June 3, 2019 17 minutes ago, DerekB said: The anchor I was wasn't from the riverboat, but rather from the MSC ship (which was draped over the riverboat). Perhaps I am wrong though. I'm pretty sure that you are correct. The MSC ship was using to anchor to try to slow itself down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimVB Posted June 3, 2019 #107 Share Posted June 3, 2019 My son in law saw a new anchor delivered to the ship yesterday. They aren't sailing tonight, safety drilled scheduled in the morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fstuff1 Posted June 3, 2019 #108 Share Posted June 3, 2019 30 minutes ago, DerekB said: The anchor I was wasn't from the riverboat, but rather from the MSC ship (which was draped over the riverboat). Perhaps I am wrong though. https://videos.dailymail.co.uk/preview/mol/2019/06/02/2095560809454848429/636x382_MP4_2095560809454848429.mp4 oh, thats msc's anchor im seeing on the riverboat? wow also, wonder if any underwater cables were snapped because of msc's anchor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TubT Posted June 3, 2019 #109 Share Posted June 3, 2019 23 hours ago, FLACRUISER99 said: NO the Pilot only acts in an advisory position, the Captain is in command of the ship, The only place that the pilot takes command is the Panama Canal. This is true. However, captains who do not take the pilot's advice in any form or fashion may find their next visit to that port very unpleasant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimVB Posted June 3, 2019 #110 Share Posted June 3, 2019 Cruise now cancelled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted June 3, 2019 #111 Share Posted June 3, 2019 1 hour ago, TubT said: This is true. However, captains who do not take the pilot's advice in any form or fashion may find their next visit to that port very unpleasant. Please see my posts regarding the Captain/Pilot relationship in posts #58 and #76 above. Pilots can, and are, relieved on occasion, and there is no repercussion to the Captain unless his subsequent actions caused an incident, or the investigation showed that there was no cause to relieve the pilot. Very, very frequently, Captain's will quietly "amend" a pilot's orders, particularly when the Captain is using the controls personally for the propellers and thrusters when close to the dock, as the Captain is far more familiar with the ship's handling than the pilot, so he may give a little more or less thrust on the thrusters than what the pilot asked for. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geocruiser Posted June 3, 2019 #112 Share Posted June 3, 2019 12 minutes ago, JimVB said: Cruise now cancelled Is there a statement from MSC? I have not been able to find one yet. I am not looking in the right place for it . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimVB Posted June 3, 2019 #113 Share Posted June 3, 2019 Just a message from our daughter who is on board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WackyWayne Posted June 3, 2019 #114 Share Posted June 3, 2019 Does anyone know the status or location of the "River Countess" now? According to MarineTraffic, her last AIS update was yesterday morning. Might the incident have taken the AIS offline? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Stockjock Posted June 3, 2019 #115 Share Posted June 3, 2019 5 minutes ago, JimVB said: Just a message from our daughter who is on board. Out of fairness to their customers, MSC really needs to put out a statement in terms of what’s going on and how long they expect the ship to be down for. I know all the answers are not yet completely clear, but they should have some idea, preliminarily. Can you imagine getting ready to fly to Venice only to be faced with this mess and no communication from the company? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBP&O2/O Posted June 3, 2019 #116 Share Posted June 3, 2019 I was on a ship that collided with a dock (not on my watch 😀 ) after the tugs hawser snapped ... what was in the press and what actually happened were somewhat different. Never let the truth get in the way of a good story as one wag once said. I will defer my judgement until the full facts are known. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimVB Posted June 3, 2019 #117 Share Posted June 3, 2019 Our daughter and husband boarded in Bari on Saturday. So far there is a promise of a full refund. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fragilek Posted June 3, 2019 #118 Share Posted June 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, JimVB said: Our daughter and husband boarded in Bari on Saturday. So far there is a promise of a full refund. Hi I am just back yesterday from an amazing air bnb with balcony views over the Rialto if its free they could try and salvage a nice holiday out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Essiesmom Posted June 3, 2019 #119 Share Posted June 3, 2019 Unfortunately, the refund is usually not cash in hand...Cash back to credit card sometime down the road...EM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1fifthavenue Posted June 3, 2019 #120 Share Posted June 3, 2019 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnocket Posted June 3, 2019 #121 Share Posted June 3, 2019 14 minutes ago, 1fifthavenue said: This seems fair to me. Unfortunately, it looks like the implementation of it is a bit of a mess for those trying to fly home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidari Posted June 3, 2019 #122 Share Posted June 3, 2019 On a Facebook page there is a statement by the Captain saying that both anchors were used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare GeezerCouple Posted June 3, 2019 #123 Share Posted June 3, 2019 1 hour ago, fragilek said: Hi I am just back yesterday from an amazing air bnb with balcony views over the Rialto if its free they could try and salvage a nice holiday out of it. Oh, what a view!!! GC 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLACRUISER99 Posted June 3, 2019 #124 Share Posted June 3, 2019 6 hours ago, TubT said: This is true. However, captains who do not take the pilot's advice in any form or fashion may find their next visit to that port very unpleasant. How do you know this? Are you a Pilot or a Captain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capriccio Posted June 3, 2019 #125 Share Posted June 3, 2019 A poster on the River Cruising board just noted that his/her travel agent has been notified by Uniworld that the River Countess will resume cruising on July 21. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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