Rare MMDown Under Posted May 10, 2021 #3976 Share Posted May 10, 2021 58 minutes ago, Chiliburn said: We will probably hear something in the budget tonight. Yes, I think Govt is aware of pressure for announcement of a future date for Australians to be able to travel overseas and for foreign visitors to Australia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aus Traveller Posted May 10, 2021 #3977 Share Posted May 10, 2021 I don't think we will hear firm dates for the opening of Australia's borders. It is an ever-evolving story as the situation changes.☹️ 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RosieCanberra Posted May 11, 2021 #3978 Share Posted May 11, 2021 I agree, there will be no set timeframes. Our Chief Minister, Andrew Barr, said at a press conference very early on in the piece (perhaps March 2020?) that we won't be travelling overseas 'for years'. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare OzKiwiJJ Posted May 11, 2021 Author #3979 Share Posted May 11, 2021 18 minutes ago, Aus Traveller said: I don't think we will hear firm dates for the opening of Australia's borders. It is an ever-evolving story as the situation changes.☹️ And most likely to be a slow and rolling border opening, country by country bubbles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare lyndarra Posted May 11, 2021 #3980 Share Posted May 11, 2021 54 minutes ago, Aus Traveller said: I don't think we will hear firm dates for the opening of Australia's borders. It is an ever-evolving story as the situation changes.☹️ Any border opening is going to be dependent on the vaccine uptake. I think that when it gets to a point where all those that want it have got it (vaccination), then we may see opening up. And those that don't want the vax take the risk of their choice. That would also need to align with foreign visitor entry being allowed if they have evidence of full vaccination. Non vaxed can stay out. At this point we will have moved from pandemic to endemic, like flu. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1980dory Posted May 11, 2021 #3981 Share Posted May 11, 2021 3 hours ago, MicCanberra said: Fur in cleavage sounds like a totally different thing to plumbers' crack. OK, Mic. Let's cease the 'wise cracks'. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1980dory Posted May 11, 2021 #3982 Share Posted May 11, 2021 5 minutes ago, 1980dory said: OK, Mic. Let's cease the 'wise cracks'. I always start thinking about breakfast when I see the 'crack of dawn' in the early morning. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1980dory Posted May 11, 2021 #3983 Share Posted May 11, 2021 Just now, 1980dory said: I always start thinking about breakfast when I see the 'crack of dawn' in the early morning. Mic, You always 'crack me up'! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1980dory Posted May 11, 2021 #3984 Share Posted May 11, 2021 1 hour ago, RosieCanberra said: I agree, there will be no set timeframes. Our Chief Minister, Andrew Barr, said at a press conference very early on in the piece (perhaps March 2020?) that we won't be travelling overseas 'for years'. What a coincidence. We have politicians who think like that also. Isn't it great we have politicians (USA) who know what is best for us? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazzaw Posted May 11, 2021 #3985 Share Posted May 11, 2021 A few days ago, the PM said that the International border will be closed indefinitely - regardless of the level of vaccination in Australia- until they get definite experience of how the vaccines cope with the new COVID variants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare OzKiwiJJ Posted May 11, 2021 Author #3986 Share Posted May 11, 2021 35 minutes ago, bazzaw said: A few days ago, the PM said that the International border will be closed indefinitely - regardless of the level of vaccination in Australia- until they get definite experience of how the vaccines cope with the new COVID variants. Yeah, but ScoMo changes his mind every few days so who knows what will happen. What is probably more important is how effective vaccination is at reducing the number of cases in other countries. I wonder what will be considered an acceptable number of daily cases? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSWP Posted May 11, 2021 #3987 Share Posted May 11, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, 1980dory said: OK, Mic. Let's cease the 'wise cracks'. Mic's joke, ' a cracker.' lol. Perhaps even a Jatz Cracker. Edited May 11, 2021 by NSWP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiliburn Posted May 11, 2021 #3988 Share Posted May 11, 2021 (edited) Mid next year or longer as we heard in the budget. BUT hopefully we will get some ships here for domestic cruises by then. The Cruise ban comes up in 5 weeks, they usually make a decision 3-4 weeks in advance. I think we can expect another 3 months. But It would be nice to sea a Carnival and a Royal ship coming in Sydney heads for test cruises. Edited May 11, 2021 by Chiliburn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MMDown Under Posted May 11, 2021 #3989 Share Posted May 11, 2021 17 minutes ago, Chiliburn said: Mid next year or longer as we heard in the budget. BUT hopefully we will get some ships here for domestic cruises by then. The Cruise ban comes up in 5 weeks, they usually make a decision 3-4 weeks in advance. I think we can expect another 3 months. But It would be nice to sea a Carnival and a Royal ship coming in Sydney heads for test cruises. Another three months will be unacceptable after announcement of mid 2022 for possible opening of borders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell21 Posted May 11, 2021 #3990 Share Posted May 11, 2021 30 minutes ago, MMDown Under said: Another three months will be unacceptable after announcement of mid 2022 for possible opening of borders. Do you not understand the meaning of the word "possible". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MMDown Under Posted May 11, 2021 #3991 Share Posted May 11, 2021 24 minutes ago, Russell21 said: Do you not understand the meaning of the word "possible". I do, which is why I added possible. I saw an interview with the Treasurer on the news this morning and he more or less said date next year isn't definite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MMDown Under Posted May 11, 2021 #3992 Share Posted May 11, 2021 22 minutes ago, MMDown Under said: I do, which is why I added possible. I saw an interview with the Treasurer on the news this morning and he more or less said date next year isn't definite. Later Treasurer said "It is an assumption, not policy". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare gogo65 Posted May 11, 2021 #3993 Share Posted May 11, 2021 1 hour ago, Chiliburn said: Mid next year or longer as we heard in the budget. BUT hopefully we will get some ships here for domestic cruises by then. The Cruise ban comes up in 5 weeks, they usually make a decision 3-4 weeks in advance. I think we can expect another 3 months. But It would be nice to sea a Carnival and a Royal ship coming in Sydney heads for test cruises. I’m waiting for the next round of updates. Our Kimberley cruise is in August, I’ve thought they would start with small and go from there. I read an article where Ponant offered a 6 week quarantine process for all their crew to get the ships to Australia, unfortunately like scenic it may be a little to late, with a minimum 4 week process just to get the ships here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted May 11, 2021 #3994 Share Posted May 11, 2021 I think the time line is flexible but I can tell you now the major cruise ships are not going to be waiting for the government to confirm, they just won't be coming here for the summer. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiliburn Posted May 11, 2021 #3995 Share Posted May 11, 2021 34 minutes ago, MicCanberra said: I think the time line is flexible but I can tell you now the major cruise ships are not going to be waiting for the government to confirm, they just won't be coming here for the summer. I think the cruise line would take anything they can get . But your right,they won’t be coming,at least not for the season they have planned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacaluke Posted May 11, 2021 #3996 Share Posted May 11, 2021 We are booked on a HAL Australia circumnavigation cruise in December 2021 - we are on the southern segment of the cruise, leaving from Perth and docking in Sydney Dec 22. After this it heads to NZ. Although this cruise doesn't enter international waters, is it still unlikely to go ahead due to the ship having to travel here from another country? Also a lot of the travellers booked on the cruise are from the US. I'm not very hopeful of it going ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MMDown Under Posted May 11, 2021 #3997 Share Posted May 11, 2021 1 minute ago, Jacaluke said: We are booked on a HAL Australia circumnavigation cruise in December 2021 - we are on the southern segment of the cruise, leaving from Perth and docking in Sydney Dec 22. After this it heads to NZ. Although this cruise doesn't enter international waters, is it still unlikely to go ahead due to the ship having to travel here from another country? Also a lot of the travellers booked on the cruise are from the US. I'm not very hopeful of it going ahead. Agree. Mid 2022 seems to be earliest borders may open, so cruising would be after this date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare mr walker Posted May 11, 2021 #3998 Share Posted May 11, 2021 I am sure that the access to the vaccine will improve fairly quickly, and so that will become less of a problem. Two problems in achieving a high enough level of vaccination in our population are: 1. the negativity around the AZ vaccine 2. the reluctance of a significant number of people to have the jab (any variety). I am not talking about the crazy anti-vaxers here, but a much wider group. I personally know 2 people who work in hospitals, not in a medical capacity, but in admin, including having contact with the public, who have not & will not have the jab. One doesn't even believe that COVID is a problem as she hasn't seen anyone die from it! The other says she just won't have it. Both are cruisers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare lyndarra Posted May 12, 2021 #3999 Share Posted May 12, 2021 3 minutes ago, mr walker said: Both were cruisers. 😁 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell21 Posted May 12, 2021 #4000 Share Posted May 12, 2021 Things are getting desperate in our household. SWMBO has asked me to look at Train to and from MELBOURNE, with a 4 or 5 night stay in a city hotel. The horrible thing is it is starting to look attractive to me. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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