Tatka Posted October 12, 2023 #26 Share Posted October 12, 2023 Just now, time4u2go said: No they're not. See post #14. I have other information. Also even cargo handlers have are paid based on education (in some reason). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
time4u2go Posted October 12, 2023 #27 Share Posted October 12, 2023 Just now, Tatka said: I have other information. Also even cargo handlers have are paid based on education (in some reason). What information do you have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soremekun Posted October 12, 2023 #28 Share Posted October 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Tatka said: I have other information. Also even cargo handlers have are paid based on education (in some reason). Even the lower salary in post #24 is still a decent wage.... Plus union + benefits + retirement. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Tree_skier Posted October 12, 2023 #29 Share Posted October 12, 2023 17 minutes ago, sanger727 said: Where are you getting this info from? Longshoreman Salary | Salary.com "How much does a Longshoreman make in the United States? The average Longshoreman salary in the United States is $60,895 as of September 25, 2023, but the salary range typically falls between $54,930 and $67,283. " https://www.freightwaves.com/news/west-coast-dockworkers-making-200k-demand-higher-pay#:~:text=How ILWU earnings are calculated,that steep for skilled labor. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanger727 Posted October 12, 2023 #30 Share Posted October 12, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Tree_skier said: https://www.freightwaves.com/news/west-coast-dockworkers-making-200k-demand-higher-pay#:~:text=How ILWU earnings are calculated,that steep for skilled labor. If you read the whole article, to get to that number they are counting on third shift workers making a lot more and overtime. That's not necessarily the situation for cruise ship porters. They certainly aren't on third shift. And It says that alot of the workers work less than full time, so they wouldn't be getting overtime. I'm not saying they aren't paid well. But this article seems a bit inflated. Kinda like that report that UPS drivers make $200,000 a year. Edited October 12, 2023 by sanger727 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted October 12, 2023 #31 Share Posted October 12, 2023 The bottom line is no porter is relying on tips to put food on the table. 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Tree_skier Posted October 12, 2023 #32 Share Posted October 12, 2023 1 minute ago, smokeybandit said: The bottom line is no porter is relying on tips to put food on the table. Exactly, 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morecruisesplz Posted October 12, 2023 #33 Share Posted October 12, 2023 6 hours ago, steveru621 said: I fold up $2. Longshoreman. Embarrassed? Why fold them up? Leave the 2 bills flat and hand them proudly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truluv Posted October 12, 2023 Author #34 Share Posted October 12, 2023 1 hour ago, time4u2go said: So what are you going to do? Answers ranged from $0 per bag to $5 per bag. I will probably do $5/bag -- maybe more depending on the service. My suitcase is HEAVY. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
not-enough-cruising Posted October 12, 2023 #35 Share Posted October 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Tatka said: Why? They are paid very low and this is a good source of income. They are not paid “very low”. They are paid incredibly well. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoeyVictoria Posted October 12, 2023 #36 Share Posted October 12, 2023 Last week in Miami I tipped $6 for three bags, as I always do. The porter stared at the cash in his hand and frowned. One of the three bags had been delivered by the time cabins were available, but the other two did not appear until over an hour after sail away. The Apple air tags showed that they were still outside the terminal at sail away, and I was very stressed and upset at the thought of a 7-night cruise with no clothing. Coincidence? Maybe. I won’t tip more because of it, but I will always wonder where those bags were between 10 a.m. and 5 p.m. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
not-enough-cruising Posted October 12, 2023 #37 Share Posted October 12, 2023 1 hour ago, sanger727 said: If you read the whole article, to get to that number they are counting on third shift workers making a lot more and overtime. That's not necessarily the situation for cruise ship porters. They certainly aren't on third shift. And It says that alot of the workers work less than full time, so they wouldn't be getting overtime. I'm not saying they aren't paid well. But this article seems a bit inflated. Kinda like that report that UPS drivers make $200,000 a year. All the luggage handlers at the cruise terminal are on overtime. It is a plum assignment, that is handed out by seniority (those that are at the higher end of the salary scale) Union workers get paid 40 hours regardless of how short they fall, so “part time” really doesn’t exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soremekun Posted October 13, 2023 #38 Share Posted October 13, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, ZoeyVictoria said: Last week in Miami I tipped $6 for three bags, as I always do. The porter stared at the cash in his hand and frowned. One of the three bags had been delivered by the time cabins were available, but the other two did not appear until over an hour after sail away. The Apple air tags showed that they were still outside the terminal at sail away, and I was very stressed and upset at the thought of a 7-night cruise with no clothing. Coincidence? Maybe. I won’t tip more because of it, but I will always wonder where those bags were between 10 a.m. and 5 p.m. Maybe use @steveru621's folding trick? Edited October 13, 2023 by soremekun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morecruisesplz Posted October 13, 2023 #39 Share Posted October 13, 2023 14 minutes ago, soremekun said: Maybe use @steveru621's folding truck? Put the cash in a truck? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soremekun Posted October 13, 2023 #40 Share Posted October 13, 2023 1 minute ago, fredmdcruisers said: Put the cash in a truck? Darn it! Yes, that will work too though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverbeenhere Posted October 13, 2023 #41 Share Posted October 13, 2023 We tip 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bren61 Posted October 14, 2023 #42 Share Posted October 14, 2023 I used to tip, but I don't now knowing what they make per hour. I would rather tip our shuttle driver coming from the hotel and the staff on the cruise ship. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BND Posted October 14, 2023 #43 Share Posted October 14, 2023 On 10/12/2023 at 5:47 PM, ZoeyVictoria said: Last week in Miami I tipped $6 for three bags, as I always do. The porter stared at the cash in his hand and frowned. One of the three bags had been delivered by the time cabins were available, but the other two did not appear until over an hour after sail away. The Apple air tags showed that they were still outside the terminal at sail away, and I was very stressed and upset at the thought of a 7-night cruise with no clothing. Coincidence? Maybe. I won’t tip more because of it, but I will always wonder where those bags were between 10 a.m. and 5 p.m. I've seen multiple reports that show the bags aren't exactly where they show up as being. The Air Tags aren't always 100% accurate. They're close but not always exact. So, while they appeared to be ashore, they were obviously onboard but couldn't be pinpointed. Possibly some type of connection interruption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTO-Girl Posted October 14, 2023 #44 Share Posted October 14, 2023 I am not going to spend hundreds of dollars on a nice cruise and then quibble about giving the last person I hand my luggage to a tip!! Not any of my business, nor do I care, what they earn or don’t earn!! I happily give them their tip and then board the ship and look forward to my vacation…... 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shofer Posted October 14, 2023 #45 Share Posted October 14, 2023 We sailed out of Miami for the first time in Jan. 2022 for our Symphony cruise. After 15 cruises, it was the first time I was actually told by a porter that if I didn't tip, my bag might get lost. I was struck dumb and just pointed to my husband who hadn't heard the veiled threat. He gave the guy two fivers which made the porter very happy. We had done a TransAtlantic out of Southampton and the porters were so polite and patient. I have to say, we never had any issue in Ft. Lauderdale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenquixote66 Posted October 15, 2023 #46 Share Posted October 15, 2023 On 10/12/2023 at 7:54 AM, Truluv said: Haven't cruised for a few years, and it's definitely time to update my info. (The last guidance I found in the general questions was from 2016.) Can someone let me know the going rate per bag for the porters at the Bayonne port? The last time we cruised was in 2019 and we gave $5 a bag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenquixote66 Posted October 15, 2023 #47 Share Posted October 15, 2023 Not all baggage handlers are longshoremen . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
not-enough-cruising Posted October 15, 2023 #48 Share Posted October 15, 2023 10 hours ago, lenquixote66 said: Not all baggage handlers are longshoremen . All in Florida and Texas are. My guess would be everyone at Bayonne is also. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jam0610 Posted October 15, 2023 #49 Share Posted October 15, 2023 On 10/12/2023 at 10:06 AM, George C said: We give 5 a bag Agree with you. $ 5.00 per bag, we always have 2 bags. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted October 15, 2023 #50 Share Posted October 15, 2023 1 hour ago, not-enough-cruising said: All in Florida and Texas are. My guess would be everyone at Bayonne is also. And definitely California. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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