Falckon Posted September 17, 2020 #1 Share Posted September 17, 2020 https://www.cruisecritic.com/news/5599/ 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BirdTravels Posted September 18, 2020 #2 Share Posted September 18, 2020 Go go go! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drvmywifecrzy Posted September 18, 2020 #3 Share Posted September 18, 2020 Sounds good, CDC may follow with good news 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boatseller Posted September 18, 2020 #4 Share Posted September 18, 2020 Yup. The Great State of Florida finally telling the CDC to toss off. Worthless bureaucrats. Florida has been ready for cruising since June 5. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gershep Posted September 18, 2020 #5 Share Posted September 18, 2020 Interesting article. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prov2727 Posted September 18, 2020 #6 Share Posted September 18, 2020 Happy dance 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkdreams Posted September 19, 2020 #7 Share Posted September 19, 2020 Great article and hats off to those two Senators. Lets hope something good comes out of it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaveWeMetYet Posted September 19, 2020 #8 Share Posted September 19, 2020 The senators are just throwing some scraps of meat out to the cruise line execs that have donated to their re election campaigns. Nothing more. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowrose Posted September 19, 2020 #9 Share Posted September 19, 2020 Don't hold your breath. It would need to be signed by the president and he has no love for cruise ships that could carry the virus. And with none of the cruise ships being registered in the US, he's not going to have an incentive to get things started again. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mianmike Posted September 19, 2020 #10 Share Posted September 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Snowrose said: Don't hold your breath. It would need to be signed by the president and he has no love for cruise ships that could carry the virus. And with none of the cruise ships being registered in the US, he's not going to have an incentive to get things started again. Oh no! What happened? Did the president have a fallout with Micky Arison? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seaman11 Posted September 19, 2020 #11 Share Posted September 19, 2020 6 hours ago, HaveWeMetYet said: The senators are just throwing some scraps of meat out to the cruise line execs that have donated to their re election campaigns. Nothing more. i think there is lack of revenue in florida because of no cruising , it is definitely effecting them. jobs at the ports , food and fuel sales every week loaded on to ships, hotel stays for guests the day before .air travel through ect ect. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brenderlou Posted September 19, 2020 #12 Share Posted September 19, 2020 Don't hold your breath. It would need to be signed by the president and he has no love for cruise ships that could carry the virus. And with none of the cruise ships being registered in the US, he's not going to have an incentive to get things started again.He ha love for no one but himself. Bigly love.Sent from my iPhone using Forums 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PelicanBill Posted September 19, 2020 #13 Share Posted September 19, 2020 How messed up is it when we need to try to pass a law to get HHS/CDC to do their job. But this needs the support of a majority of congress in both houses and the president's signature, and then the bill proposes to get all these agencies to work together to make a plan.... all this would be months in the works even in it could make a difference. This is like telling toddlers throwing tantrums that the playground rules require you to have fun and expecting something to change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roger001 Posted September 19, 2020 #14 Share Posted September 19, 2020 With the election approaching, cruises and cruise ships are way, way down the list of priorities for any elected official I'm afraid. It's going to be up to the cruise lines to get themselves going again, proving it is virus free and controlled before anyone will be listening. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruiseMH Posted September 19, 2020 #15 Share Posted September 19, 2020 11 hours ago, Snowrose said: Don't hold your breath. It would need to be signed by the president and he has no love for cruise ships that could carry the virus. And with none of the cruise ships being registered in the US, he's not going to have an incentive to get things started again. Just tell him that the resurrection of the cruise industry would bring thousands of jobs back to florida and so there would be thousands of additional votes for him. then he will sign everything. 😉 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macandlucy Posted September 19, 2020 #16 Share Posted September 19, 2020 (edited) The CDC requires the approval of congress to not extend their own No Sail order? It expires Sept 30. All they have to do is let it expire, no? Edited September 19, 2020 by macandlucy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royals Carol Posted September 20, 2020 #17 Share Posted September 20, 2020 On 9/19/2020 at 2:14 AM, Snowrose said: Don't hold your breath. It would need to be signed by the president and he has no love for cruise ships that could carry the virus. And with none of the cruise ships being registered in the US, he's not going to have an incentive to get things started again. I disagree. The President wants America to be strong and jobs to open back up. The CDC and “other” medical advisors who have their hand in the interest of money working on the “vaccine” could care less about it. I personally feel that it is a conflict of interest for any medical advisor hired by the US Government to be involved with earning money from the vaccine.. The President loves this country. 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_sobe Posted September 20, 2020 #18 Share Posted September 20, 2020 (edited) On 9/18/2020 at 11:31 PM, HaveWeMetYet said: The senators are just throwing some scraps of meat out to the cruise line execs that have donated to their re election campaigns. Nothing more. Exactly. As they say, follow the money. Its just as ridiculous for legislation to be offered to stop cruising than it would be to mandate legislation to start cruising. This is not taken serious and is a lame payback for political contributions. If you want to do something have cruise line CEOs testify before a hearing explaining how they are ready to cruise and the precautions they have in place. What will cruise lines do with infected passengers on board? Is the government ready to set up quarantine sites again? We cannot legislate our way out of a global pandemic. What next? Senator Rubio introducing legislation to stop colon cancer? Seriously guys.......are we this stupid? Edited September 20, 2020 by david_sobe 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterbliss Posted September 20, 2020 #19 Share Posted September 20, 2020 2 hours ago, Royals Carol said: I disagree. The President wants America to be strong and jobs to open back up. The CDC and “other” medical advisors who have their hand in the interest of money working on the “vaccine” could care less about it. I personally feel that it is a conflict of interest for any medical advisor hired by the US Government to be involved with earning money from the vaccine.. The President loves this country. I believe 'conflict of interest' is an understatement. Corruption, in my opinion, describes alot of what is happening. I hope that the cruise lines can get back to operating soon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterbliss Posted September 20, 2020 #20 Share Posted September 20, 2020 And furthermore, 'The greatest medicine of all is teaching people how not to need it'..... Hippocrates.... When was the last time anyone heard from the 'experts', get out in sunshine, exercise, make smart food choices to nourish our bodies, appropriate sleep. Instead it has been stay home, wear a mask when you go out, use hand sanitizer everywhere, follow footprints and arrows everywhere. And of course, so many are waiting for that vaccine. There are many courageous professionals who have very different opinions on all of this and have spoken out. Little chance of seeing same on main stream media....and it really doesn't take much research to understand why that is. Hope cruising is able to get back to business and get who knows how many back to making a living. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowrose Posted September 20, 2020 #21 Share Posted September 20, 2020 6 hours ago, Royals Carol said: I disagree. The President wants America to be strong and jobs to open back up. The CDC and “other” medical advisors who have their hand in the interest of money working on the “vaccine” could care less about it. I personally feel that it is a conflict of interest for any medical advisor hired by the US Government to be involved with earning money from the vaccine.. The President loves this country. My comment is based on his previous decisions and actions. He didn't want the other cruise ships to dock and had the no sail order put into place. Time will tell which course he chooses this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njhorseman Posted September 20, 2020 #22 Share Posted September 20, 2020 8 hours ago, Royals Carol said: I disagree. The President wants America to be strong and jobs to open back up. The CDC and “other” medical advisors who have their hand in the interest of money working on the “vaccine” could care less about it. I personally feel that it is a conflict of interest for any medical advisor hired by the US Government to be involved with earning money from the vaccine.. The President loves this country. Please explain how the CDC "has their hand in the interest of money working on the vaccine". For starters it's the FDA that has to approve any vaccines, not the CDC. In fact it's the Trump-appointed chief vaccine advisor, Moncef Slaoui, not the public servants at the CDC and FDA who has the financial ties to the drug industry. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/20/health/coronavirus-vaccine-czar.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njhorseman Posted September 20, 2020 #23 Share Posted September 20, 2020 1 hour ago, winterbliss said: And furthermore, 'The greatest medicine of all is teaching people how not to need it'..... Hippocrates.... When was the last time anyone heard from the 'experts', get out in sunshine, exercise, make smart food choices to nourish our bodies, appropriate sleep. Instead it has been stay home, wear a mask when you go out, use hand sanitizer everywhere, follow footprints and arrows everywhere. And of course, so many are waiting for that vaccine. There are many courageous professionals who have very different opinions on all of this and have spoken out. Little chance of seeing same on main stream media....and it really doesn't take much research to understand why that is. Hope cruising is able to get back to business and get who knows how many back to making a living. Exercising, eating properly and getting sufficient sleep are all part of a healthy lifestyle that should be followed at all times . Since when did the experts say otherwise? The other advice...staying home, wearing a mask when in public and using hand sanitizer are specific steps to lessen the spread of COVID-19. They don't replace the healthy lifestyle advice, they supplement it. It's one plus the other not one or the other. Can you provide references to statements made by qualified professionals...the ones you describe as courageous, that are backed by scientific evidence ? If they've spoken out they must be published somewhere. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boatseller Posted September 20, 2020 #24 Share Posted September 20, 2020 On 9/18/2020 at 11:31 PM, HaveWeMetYet said: The senators are just throwing some scraps of meat out to the cruise line execs that have donated to their re election campaigns. Nothing more. I feel sad for you. Senators Scott and Rubio are popular and accomplished here in Florida and they recognize the CDC pointless and counter productive meddling in Florida affairs. We've been ready for cruising since June 5. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boatseller Posted September 20, 2020 #25 Share Posted September 20, 2020 39 minutes ago, njhorseman said: Please explain how the CDC "has their hand in the interest of money working on the vaccine". For starters it's the FDA that has to approve any vaccines, not the CDC. In fact it's the Trump-appointed chief vaccine advisor, Moncef Slaoui, not the public servants at the CDC and FDA who has the financial ties to the drug industry. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/20/health/coronavirus-vaccine-czar.html The CDC is using the only cards they have to scare people into wanting a vaccine. And cruising is the biggest card they have. The bureaucracies in the CDC and FDA are just as corrupt and incompetent as the FAA (737MAX). Gilead & Boeing learned how to play the game best. The lesson here is the CDC's authority over cruising has to be stripped completely. The States are perfectly capably of handling onboard health and safety issues. Well, Florida is, and probably Texas. California can't even figure out how to steal our theme park guidelines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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