Masks probably required

[CRUISEFAN0001]

4 hours ago, PhoenixCruiser said:

There is so much misinformation out there, especially on some websites posted in this thread.

Indeed...for example most people don't actually know the #1 source of germ transmission on cruises and hotels...

 

the TV remote control...

[beerman2]

9 hours ago, Iamcruzin said:

They touch the chips and the slot machines in the casino, the weights and other equipment in the gym, the hand grips on the rock climbing wall, they pull chairs out with their hands and touch the menus in the MDR, they rest their hands on the bars and tables, sit bareback and legs on the lounge chairs, and sweat in the hot tubs.

The frequency isn’t the same.

1) Casino pax sit for hours

2) Gyms pax workout for 1/2-1 hour

3) Rock Climbing takes what 20 minutes

4 ) Menus are touched every 1- 1 1/2 hours

5)lounge chairs pax plop their butts there for hours at a time

6)Hot tubs see #5

 

Buffets you have “different “

pax touching utensils by the minute.

 

Frequency is the key, even in stores here the health department says door handles at businesses should be wiped down every “hour” which falls in line with 1-6 as I’ve shown.

Edited May 10, 2020 by beerman2

[beerman2]

lamcruizin, 

 

Another thing to realize is most things you and I pointed out is they can shut those down for a short time to sanitize. 

 

Can't see that happening at the Buffet.  The Buffet gets more foot traffic than most places on cruise ships with the biggest turnover. No more self service is likely the "only" solution.

[Iamcruzin]

50 minutes ago, beerman2 said:

The frequency isn’t the same.

1) Casino pax sit for hours

2) Gyms pax workout for 1/2-1 hour

3) Rock Climbing takes what 20 minutes

4 ) Menus are touched every 1- 1 1/2 hours

5)lounge chairs pax plop their butts there for hours at a time

6)Hot tubs see #5

 

Buffets you have “different “

pax touching utensils by the minute.

 

Frequency is the key, even in stores here the health department says door handles at businesses should be wiped down every “hour” which falls in line with 1-6 as I’ve shown.

Simple solution plate your food and wash your hands before you eat and wash your hands after participating in all of the activities above. I gave up wearing glove on trips to the supermarket since I have go to multiple stores to complete my list. I have been cleaning my hands in between stores with armor all wipes since I can't get the standard disinfectant wipes.

[mac_tlc]

4 minutes ago, Iamcruzin said:

Simple solution plate your food and wash your hands before you eat and wash your hands after participating in all of the activities above. I gave up wearing glove on trips to the supermarket since I have go to multiple stores to complete my list. I have been cleaning my hands in between stores with armor all wipes since I can't get the standard disinfectant wipes.

My grocery run usually involves three stops. They have wipes to use on the carts, so I keep it with me when I’m done to wipe the hands off before the next stop. We have been locked down for eight weeks now, and it will be difficult today since I don’t think the wife will see the grandkids today for Mother’s Day. 😞. 
 

mac_tlc

[Iamcruzin]

1 minute ago, mac_tlc said:

My grocery run usually involves three stops. They have wipes to use on the carts, so I keep it with me when I’m done to wipe the hands off before the next stop. We have been locked down for eight weeks now, and it will be difficult today since I don’t think the wife will see the grandkids today for Mother’s Day. 😞. 
 

mac_tlc

I'm in 3 to 4 stores. They ran out of the wipes for the shopping carts 3 weeks ago. That's when I started buying Armor All wipes. They always have them in BJ's. I hope people don't catch on and create a shortage of those. Now they are limiting 1 flour and 1 sugar for each customer. It's becoming the Hunger Games.

[mac_tlc]

Just now, Iamcruzin said:

I'm in 3 to 4 stores. They ran out of the wipes for the shopping carts 3 weeks ago. That's when I started buying Armor All wipes. They always have them in BJ's. I hope people don't catch on and create a shortage of those. Now they are limiting 1 flour and 1 sugar for each customer. It's becoming the Hunger Games.

I thought I won Lotto when I scored some bread flour on Friday, unfortunately, no yeast to be found.😩

[time4u2go]

10 hours ago, Iamcruzin said:

They touch the chips and the slot machines in the casino, the weights and other equipment in the gym, the hand grips on the rock climbing wall, they pull chairs out with their hands and touch the menus in the MDR, they rest their hands on the bars and tables, sit bareback and legs on the lounge chairs, and sweat in the hot tubs.

I agree.  There's so many things on a cruise ship that many people touch, all day long, over and over.  The utensils in the buffet are but one of them.

[mac_tlc]

Maybe they can give each guest their own personal disposable serving spoon when you come in the WJ —— but only after you wash your hands. 
 

mac_tlc

[barbeyg]

14 hours ago, John&LaLa said:

 

Thoughts on table games🤔

The washy-washy guy runs around forcing you to use hand sanitizer. 😂

[barbeyg]

Double post. 

Edited May 10, 2020 by barbeyg

[Tree_skier]

14 hours ago, HBE4 said:

 

Yeah, I don't really understand it either. I'd be more concerned about the 70's dance party in the Royal Promenade, the Quest, any night club dance party, leaving the theater after a show or any of the other 2 dozen crowd choke points around the ship.

 

 

For years, I've been using a napkin when touching the serving spoon. Once I've gathered my food, I get a clean napkin when eating.

 

Sometimes the most simple solution is the best.

 

 

"HOW DARE YOU!" Please stop using common sense.  We must either close the windjammer or use bionic food servers requiring millions of dollars in upgrades.  Simple solutions do nothing to add to the hysteria.  The only way to successfully navigate the C-virus is to maintain the highest level of hysteria possible.  The maximum number of govt. bureaucrats must be involved and any resolution to the myriad of challenges must be at least 12-18 months in the future.  Can you imagine the chaos if a paper towel dispenser was placed at each serving station along with a trash can so passengers could take a paper napkin, use the utensil to serve themselves food and then dispense with the paper napkin and move on to the next station. MADNESS, I SAY! What if some dropped the napkin on the floor. What if someone stumbled and slipped on the aforementioned improperly disposed of napkin. What about one armed people who could not hold a tray while reaching for a napkin. Just think about the increased carbon footprint that that alone would cause.  We would decrease the apocalyptic, climate change, end of the world predictions from 12 years to 8 years.  With that and the increase in methane gas production caused by bovine flatulence because meat processors can't butcher as many cattle because of the C-virus we'll all probably be dead the week after next anyways.  To quote a certain globetrotting teenager "HOW DARE YOU! THE HOUSE IS ON FIRE"

[John Reid]

Will the phony service dogs on ships be required to wear masks?

[Roger88]

Well its  no surprise new to be honest. I hate  all this mask hysteria.. as if a regular mask will help you some how. Regular mask is no more than a tool of control. If it was really about safety they would have distributed all those M3 masks or N95 (they are quite expensive).. regular masks wont help 

[A&L_Ont]

6 hours ago, Iamcruzin said:

I'm in 3 to 4 stores. They ran out of the wipes for the shopping carts 3 weeks ago. That's when I started buying Armor All wipes. They always have them in BJ's. I hope people don't catch on and create a shortage of those. Now they are limiting 1 flour and 1 sugar for each customer. It's becoming the Hunger Games.

We have had those limits since then3rd week of March.  If the grocery store gets wipes, there might 12 containers. At least your grocery cart with have a shiny and slippery handle.  If you wipe the cart wheels, does the bad one run properly?

 

6 hours ago, mac_tlc said:

I thought I won Lotto when I scored some bread flour on Friday, unfortunately, no yeast to be found.😩

No yeast has risen from the depths around here as of late. 

[broberts]

9 minutes ago, Roger88 said:

...regular masks wont help 

 

These masks are intended to reduce transmission from the wearer. They help reduce spittle. Thought to be a significant source of infection. 

[jptoz]

Do you think cruise lines should come up with a policy ,where they refund your money or a FCC for a cruise if you get sick on the cruise. I think a lot of people get sick and dont say anything. Thus infecting more people. Note: I have never gotten sick on a cruise, Hungover hell yeah.

[Computer Nerd]

On 5/9/2020 at 2:43 PM, Merion_Mom said:

 

If you are going to call someone out for their behavior, at least be accurate.

 

She is not a governor.  She's a mayor.

6 of one, half dozen of the other.

[Computer Nerd]

23 hours ago, HBE4 said:

 

Thank you.

 

This pretty much proves that the lock downs and social distancing rules have worked.  Not sure how some can still deny it.

Not denying they have some effect. But they do serious harm as well. Which is worse?

 

Also, with a disease that has a chance of death of about 1%, how does anyone come to the conclusion of 22 mil dead in the US when we only have a population of about 325mil. Seems to me someone is using fuzzy math.

[HBE4]

21 minutes ago, Computer Nerd said:

Not denying they have some effect. But they do serious harm as well. Which is worse?

 

Also, with a disease that has a chance of death of about 1%, how does anyone come to the conclusion of 22 mil dead in the US when we only have a population of about 325mil. Seems to me someone is using fuzzy math.

 

Thats because the person that wrote 22 mil dead maybe had fuzzy eyesight and forgot the decimal point. It should have been 2.2 million. 

 

So the math kinda works, in an extreme example.  

[Computer Nerd]

18 minutes ago, HBE4 said:

 

Thats because the person that wrote 22 mil dead maybe had fuzzy eyesight and forgot the decimal point. It should have been 2.2 million. 

 

So the math kinda works, in an extreme example.  

I believe a lot of things have been forgotten or are fuzzy when it comes down to how this virus is being handled.

[lenquixote66]

On 5/6/2020 at 12:48 PM, retiredgram said:

So how are we going to eat and drink??

My 11 year old granddaughter came to the outside of our house this morning to take pictures of us and we of her.She was wearing a mask and as I was about to take the picture she said she was smiling.😀

[time4u2go]

1 hour ago, Computer Nerd said:

Not denying they have some effect. But they do serious harm as well. Which is worse?

 

Also, with a disease that has a chance of death of about 1%, how does anyone come to the conclusion of 22 mil dead in the US when we only have a population of about 325mil. Seems to me someone is using fuzzy math.

Where have you seen that the chance of death is 1%?

[KsucAts]

5 minutes ago, time4u2go said:

Where have you seen that the chance of death is 1%?

 

Wasn't that one of the early estimates before so many people have been discovered to have had the virus with no symptoms?  I think once those numbers are factored in, the number is closer to .1% or less.  

[time4u2go]

2 minutes ago, KsucAts said:

 

Wasn't that one of the early estimates before so many people have been discovered to have had the virus with no symptoms?  I think once those numbers are factored in, the number is closer to .1% or less.  

I haven't seen 1% or .1%. Where have you seen those numbers?

Edited May 10, 2020 by time4u2go