dreaminofcruisin Posted June 18, 2020 #1 Share Posted June 18, 2020 In case you hadn't seen this. I think it's across the Carnival Corp lines, so don't know if any Princess ships will be included. Any guesses? https://www.cruisecritic.com/news/5400/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
By The Bay Posted June 18, 2020 #2 Share Posted June 18, 2020 It was announced recently that Costa Victoria was sold. Source I don't know if the six include the previously announced sale of P&O Australia's Pacific Dawn and Pacific Aria that were due to leave the fleet in 2021. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrak Posted June 18, 2020 #3 Share Posted June 18, 2020 I heard a rumor that Tony (Lucky TGO) might buy Pacific Princess as a minor upgrade to his rowboat... 9 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare oskidunker Posted June 19, 2020 #4 Share Posted June 19, 2020 Wonder why they wont name ships? Maybe they want those deposits to keep coming. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LawDog61 Posted June 19, 2020 #5 Share Posted June 19, 2020 I read a different article covering the same conversation and he also mentioned scraping some ships. I suspect there may not be much of a market in the future for used cruise ships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoBadKnees Posted June 19, 2020 #6 Share Posted June 19, 2020 Makes me wonder if the name Diamond Princess has been tarnished enough to either sell the ship or change its name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ombud Posted June 19, 2020 #7 Share Posted June 19, 2020 (edited) There are a number of pre-2000 ships across the fleet that cost more to upkeep so it might be smart to let go of those. (Quoting myself..... topic being discussed on Carnival shares Actually I was wrong. Princess has 4 pre-2000 ships (Sun, Sea, Grand, Pacific) but wonder if Sapphire is going to P&O Australia along with Golden & Star to retire all of their older ships. Edited June 19, 2020 by Ombud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caribill Posted June 19, 2020 #8 Share Posted June 19, 2020 The announcement said they were moving up the sale of previous planned ship divestitures. So it is not as if suddenly CCL Corp decided to sell some ships. The announcement also indicated that the sales are not finalized yet. I suspect that is why the ship names were not also announced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCC retired Posted June 19, 2020 #9 Share Posted June 19, 2020 My guess is the Pacific Princess. It just does not fit the Princess mold . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voljeep Posted June 19, 2020 #10 Share Posted June 19, 2020 6 hours ago, caribill said: So it is not as if suddenly CCL Corp decided to sell some ships. I'm looking for the notice that CCL Corp is "sailing" some ships ... again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel A Posted June 19, 2020 #11 Share Posted June 19, 2020 6 hours ago, caribill said: The announcement said they were moving up the sale of previous planned ship divestitures. So it is not as if suddenly CCL Corp decided to sell some ships. The announcement also indicated that the sales are not finalized yet. I suspect that is why the ship names were not also announced. According to CCL Corp's June 18 press release "The company already has preliminary agreements for the disposal of 6 ships which are expected to leave the fleet in the next 90 days and is currently working toward additional agreements." That quote makes me believe they are looking to divest themselves of more than the original 6 ships. Time will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickrory Posted June 19, 2020 #12 Share Posted June 19, 2020 Who in their right mind is going to buy them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Essiesmom Posted June 19, 2020 #13 Share Posted June 19, 2020 (edited) Here is a list I made for a thread on the Carnival foru As has been mentioned bafore on this thread, this is not just about Carnival Cruise Line, but about Carnival Corp. So, let's look at the other lines in the family. Costa: Victoria (1996) already sold? neoRomantica - 1993 neoRiviera - 1999 AIDA: AIDAcara, smallest and oldest @ 34,000, 1996 HAL: Maasdam - 1993 Veendam - 1996 Rotterdam - 1996 Volendam & Zaandam - 1999 P&O-AUS: Pacific Dawn - 1991 (to CMV) Pacific Aria - 1994 (to CMV) Pacific Explorer - 1997 Carnival Cruise Lines: Fantasy - 1990 Ecstasy - 1991 Sensation - 1993 Fascination - 1994 Imagination - 1995 Inspiration - 1996 Destiny (Sunshine) 1996 Elation - 1998 Paradise - 1998 Triumph (Sunrise) - 1999 Victory - 2000 Princess: Sun Princess - 1995 Sea Princess - 1998 Pacific Princess - 1999 Edited June 19, 2020 by Essiesmom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevintheIrishDJ Posted June 19, 2020 #14 Share Posted June 19, 2020 1 hour ago, MCC retired said: My guess is the Pacific Princess. It just does not fit the Princess mold . They have been trying to sell the Pacific for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel A Posted June 19, 2020 #15 Share Posted June 19, 2020 1 hour ago, MCC retired said: My guess is the Pacific Princess. It just does not fit the Princess mold . 11 minutes ago, KevintheIrishDJ said: They have been trying to sell the Pacific for years. Who knows, maybe the future of cruising will be with the smaller ships. They can take PAX to a much larger variety of ports that the mega ships just cannot get in to. There are a lot of cruisers who do not like the Royal Class, between the crowds, time it takes to board the ship, time to board tenders and the postage stamp sized balconies. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dog Posted June 19, 2020 #16 Share Posted June 19, 2020 I was told by crew the Star Princess was being sold. Have not seen anything in writing. Anyone know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel A Posted June 19, 2020 #17 Share Posted June 19, 2020 4 minutes ago, dog said: I was told by crew the Star Princess was being sold. Have not seen anything in writing. Anyone know? It's been planned for a long time before the problems that Star will go to P&O sometime in the Fall of 2021. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riffatsea Posted June 19, 2020 #18 Share Posted June 19, 2020 Hm? The article I read just mentioned the Fantasy class ships of the Carnival line. No Princess or HAL ships were mentioned at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarbinMich Posted June 19, 2020 #19 Share Posted June 19, 2020 (edited) 14 hours ago, LawDog61 said: . . . I suspect there may not be much of a market in the future for used cruise ships. That may be true. We started out our cruising on X and was surprised to see some of the ships we'd been on (think it was the X Mercury) were now owned by a German cruise line. Saw it somewhere in Europe at the end of an EB TA on Princess. Edited June 19, 2020 by BarbinMich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caribill Posted June 19, 2020 #20 Share Posted June 19, 2020 2 hours ago, voljeep said: I'm looking for the notice that CCL Corp is "sailing" some ships ... again Not so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreaminofcruisin Posted June 19, 2020 Author #21 Share Posted June 19, 2020 1 hour ago, mickrory said: Who in their right mind is going to buy them? From the article on Cruise Critic: "Carnival Corporation would not comment on which six ships will exit from its cumulative nine cruise lines, or whether those would be sold or scrapped entirely. With the market for second-hand tonnage severely curtailed, it is increasingly likely that ships transferred out of active fleets will be sent to the breakers." Sooo...sounds like some will be sold for scrap metal... ☹️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voljeep Posted June 19, 2020 #22 Share Posted June 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, dreaminofcruisin said: sent to the breakers." gutted , then sent to ocean bottom for dive sites maybe ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipmaster Posted June 19, 2020 #23 Share Posted June 19, 2020 16 hours ago, dreaminofcruisin said: In case you hadn't seen this. I think it's across the Carnival Corp lines, so don't know if any Princess ships will be included. Any guesses? https://www.cruisecritic.com/news/5400/ Cruising like the airlines will not be the same as will hotels and overall leisure/business travel. Those with foresight are moving to put capacity and structure in place for the future likely capacity. Frankly with the biology of virus still not fully understood and the various political agendas, hard to predict when cruising will come back and how it looks with the so many different political agendas. I's say to shrink to 50% capacity would be prudent, this would be a baby step in that direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel A Posted June 19, 2020 #24 Share Posted June 19, 2020 22 minutes ago, voljeep said: gutted , then sent to ocean bottom for dive sites maybe ? That would be one way of getting a good seat in the theater...😅 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevintheIrishDJ Posted June 19, 2020 #25 Share Posted June 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Daniel A said: Who knows, maybe the future of cruising will be with the smaller ships. They can take PAX to a much larger variety of ports that the mega ships just cannot get in to. There are a lot of cruisers who do not like the Royal Class, between the crowds, time it takes to board the ship, time to board tenders and the postage stamp sized balconies. Unfortunately, it may be a while until ports will allow ships to disembark passangers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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